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This game is ... just wow ... the writing , the characters ... my new favorite by far.
Oddly creators previous work is quite bad which makes this massive jump in quality even more impressive.
I don't see it that way. "First Contact" was hillarious in my eyes and the writing was already good. But the models etc. could have been better. However i still think that good writing overrules any render or animation you can think of simply by the immersion you creating. And that was already present in "First Contact" at least in my eyes.
The best writer in the world can't show you what he is capable of when he has to visually show it to you through renders. Cause thats a skill that doesn't come with writing and is something different entirely.

So i assume (Naughtyroad will surely correct me if i am wrong) that when making this game he practiced alot with how to make his renders etc. better before starting a new project.
Because when i think about "First Contact" i can't stop laughing at one Scene when u get killed because you try to fuck and despite seeing the female who is big enough to simply rip you apart with one hand you just HAVE to go with the option. And then you die xD (Worth it)

My first book was bought and published by around 2000 copies. I got 1,50€ (the euro didn't exist back then) for a selled book. If all would have sold i would have made 3k! But not even half of them did so i ended up making around 1.2k and lost all hope as i wrote 6 months for it to be finished. So i made 206€ in a month and knew this shit will get me nowhere.
Now i can live from writing with mostly no problem.

But a VN is similar. You can work literally for months and present it to the world and even when it sells good (many patreons) if you just can't make a living of it, that just hurts as you invest weeks or even months of your free time to create something and when you don't make at least a bit of money you feel like it is a failure.

It is exactly when u fail that you can improve and if "First Contact" was a failure (i just assumed that) in naughtyroad eyes then he took his time to analyze why and tried to improve for his next project.

If that was actually the case then i am glad he failed the first time cause this game is simply put amazing.


When you finish Chapter 3 and gotta wait another 6 months for chapter 4.
I don't think it will take that long this time as his patreons will surely increase after this update :)
 

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So many interesting points, let me address them but not quite in the correct order:

(...)"First Contact" was hillarious in my eyes and the writing was already good.
Cheers, even though it is obviously flawed, I still love it a lot for all I put in and all it gave back to me.

It is exactly when u fail that you can improve and if "First Contact" was a failure (...) in naughtyroad eyes then he took his time to analyze why and tried to improve for his next project.
In terms of gaining supporters it was a failure because there were just a handful. But amazingly some of that handful are still with me and supporting me, which is amazing in itself and earns them my eternal gratitude. So a success in failure right there.

However, that was never the primary reason why I made First Contact. One of the main goals of First Contact was to fail, in many small ways, so it was a success in that regard.

With anything you do the first time, you are going to make a lot of mistakes, and you keep dragging them with you for the rest of the project. First Contact was to be a training project and a nicely contained sandbox for those mistakes, allowing me to do something complete and whole from front to back, and then walk away from it with a bunch of experience and a clean slate (which is not to say I will never return to it, but that is for time to tell).

(...)But not even half of them did so i ended up making around 1.2k and lost all hope as i wrote 6 months for it to be finished. So i made 206€ in a month and knew this shit will get me nowhere. Now i can live from writing with mostly no problem.
(...)But a VN is similar.
It's nice to hear that you took that setback, and turned it into a success, and you know exactly what you are talking about here. You are so right when you say the setbacks are what lets you learn and improve and ultimately, succeed, if you keep at it, and you did that, and one day - I hope - so will I.
The only thing that worries me though, is that I'd expected to fail a lot more before gaining any success at all. I'm just hoping that sword isn't up there waiting to drop on my head... :eek:
 
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naughtyroad The only real problem I have is the punishment from the 3 for not showing another way. I mean there is nothing wrong with dirty sex and if the 3 were interested in a nice guy why not just continue to sleep with their BF/Husbands. Also there is a balancing act to the way you are writing things when you write confusion/misunderstandings please make sure to A) The elder sister isn't a complete cunt even moreso then she already is B) The misunderstandings aren't used as a plot device to prevent the story from advancing

To see what that looks like take a look at daughter for desert endless needless drama that could easily be solved with simple communication between the two parties. It hasn't gotten to that point with the elder sister but it is getting there.
 
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That's all part of this story.

The ice has already been broken with the older daughter.
If you did everything right then you and your oldest will have more and more to talk about in the next update.

As for the 4 in the office there just side dishes only with no real depth to there story.
 
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Great game naughtyroad. The story flows well, and the renders are top class. My favourite character is older bad girl sister. The only improvement I'd love to see to her character to make her a truly bad girl, is incorporate a few smoking scenes...like when she's at the diner waiting for her ride home, or when the MC and her are having their heart to hearts after being picked up from the diner and heading home.

Either way, great stuff man...can't wait for the next chapter. (y)
 

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The only thing that worries me though, is that I'd expected to fail a lot more before gaining any success at all. I'm just hoping that sword isn't up there waiting to drop on my head... :eek:
Expect the worst and hope for the best? No seriously i don't think you can fail if you keep this level of immersion up regardless of how the story goes.

Unless you pull an "Acting Lesson" on us..... please don't do that :eek: :eek:
 

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(...) Unless you pull an "Acting Lesson" on us..... please don't do that :eek: :eek:
Back to the drawing board I guess... <goes and scratches entire section about killing off Denise or Macy in a gruesome way before the MCs eyes>.

Seriously though, I could never, ever. Just writing that sentence up there sent a pang of guilt and pain through my heart.
 

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Back to the drawing board I guess... <goes and scratches entire section about killing off Denise or Macy in a gruesome way before the MCs eyes>.

Seriously though, I could never, ever. Just writing that sentence up there sent a pang of guilt and pain through my heart.
Just do your stuff man, I'm not atleast worried about this release.
We can discuss how to follow up on a success on the next one. :cool:
I'm guessing though that my advise will be the same. :)
 
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Back to the drawing board I guess... <goes and scratches entire section about killing off Denise or Macy in a gruesome way before the MCs eyes>.

Seriously though, I could never, ever. Just writing that sentence up there sent a pang of guilt and pain through my heart.
Not gonna lie. I could feel a stroke approaching when u wrote that :ROFLMAO:
 

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Okay i finally got to play this update. I have to be in a somewhat post nut clarity kinda mindset when i play these kinda story based games, TMI i know. Anyway, I've already commented on how much I've been loving the story from the very first release so i won't overstate it.

The Macy thing this update caught me off guard. I didn't think it was that deep tbh. I mean i was somewhat close but the thing that happened between her and the mom made the reveal more meaningful than what i had thought was the cause.

I had originally thought it was only her being in love with MC but having conflicted feelings about it because she wanted to be with him but knew it would be wrong so she just pushed him away instead. Then the MC not looking at her as a woman but as his princess on top of it started to piss her off. Add the co worker and being mistaken as the mom and you have very angry daughter. That then led me into thinking the mom wasn't that huge of the problem but boy was i wrong.

That's why Macy was always my favorite girl out of the 2. She had more emotions/personality so to speak. Now Denise on the other hand in this update is an even bigger closet pervert than the last update. What makes it hot is that she doesn't know it and is oblivious to it all lol. Her curiosity stay getting the best of her.

To finish the update was a nice length and was well worth the wait in my opinion. Pacing was on point, the story didn't drag and it had my full attention from start to finish. The MC had some good quality time with Macy. Meanwhile Denise is getting more and more perverted/curious each update for the MC and even Macy.

Great update and now the waiting for chapter 4 begins.
 
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I was reluctant to try this and wont way in on the IC kink (to me there Step...) but anyway nicely done and rather hot so far.
Thats another great decision naughtyroad made here. They can be everything you want to you. Step children, Wards, Roommates, Humanoid Robots who live in your house, The list is endless.

And when you can name your dick into "Fluffy Mc Dingus" the entire conversations with Denise about sex turns hillarious xD
 

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Thats another great decision naughtyroad made here. They can be everything you want to you. Step children, Wards, Roommates, Humanoid Robots who live in your house, The list is endless.

And when you can name your dick into "Fluffy Mc Dingus" the entire conversations with Denise about sex turns hillarious xD
Now I'm wondering how my *guppies* relate to my *mollys* in a *schoal*. :cool:
 
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