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Evil Surgeon

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Apr 8, 2021
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Wow, all this talk is giving me a huge feeling of nostalgia.

I remember being 7 in 1984 and getting my first gaming system.. the mighty Atari 2600, and my first game was Pitfall. :cry:
 

Dragon59

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Apr 24, 2020
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I'm old. My dad brought home one of the original gaming consoles - pong. The one with the two lines you could move up and down to try to hit the bouncing pixel.
My parents brought home the Fairchild Channel F console. I seem to dimly remember the Magnavox Odyssey as well.
 
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meyele

Newbie
Jun 4, 2017
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Man what the hell happened here?
You don't have to give Naughty any money if you don't want to, but he's doing a REALLY good job with his game, i'll go ahead and say that this is BY FAR the most polished Ren'Py VN i've seen in this website and he deserves the support and love people in here give to him everyday.
I don't see you getting mad at other developers who have made mediocre at best games and have huge paywalls to their content,of all the games in here this is one that is worth to support.
i don't believe he's milking the game, i believe he's one of the few who actually care about his game and wants it to be the best he can make it, and it shows.
 

Miðgarðsormr

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Oct 1, 2017
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Man what the hell happened here?
You don't have to give Naughty any money if you don't want to, but he's doing a REALLY good job with his game, i'll go ahead and say that this is BY FAR the most polished Ren'Py VN i've seen in this website and he deserves the support and love people in here give to him everyday.
I don't see you getting mad at other developers who have made mediocre at best games and have huge paywalls to their content,of all the games in here this is one that is worth to support.
i don't believe he's milking the game, i believe he's one of the few who actually care about his game and wants it to be the best he can make it, and it shows.
You won't see such people in threads in which a dev actually IS milking his fanbase. Like A wife and mother, Innocent witches or Apocalust. Strangely they come here and other threads in which devs actually pamper their fanbase and have entire discussions with them or share ideas and concepts to start making stuff up and trying to start a verbal fight over something that doesn't exist.
No clue what the issue with this guy is but isn't it amazing how every single time it is a newbie with a relative fresh account who starts complaining about made up problems?

Makes you wonder if it is always the same dude who makes a new acc after he got banned on the others. :ROFLMAO:
 

naughtyroad

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Game Developer
Jan 8, 2019
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Cheers, and thanks for all your kind words. It does help, I can tell you. In this case, it's not the guy that got banned, if you look at the history, there's some nice and resonable interactions there.

I think what's happened here is mostly that someone burnt by past experiences somehow's gotten to feel that devs are the unpleasantness that has has to be dealt with to get to your favorite games, like some the creepy peddler that is trying to overcharge you for your order while they keep licking their lips as they stare at your groin. I don't get that, really, I'm making the entire game free for everyone to play the moment it releases, no content locked, no paywalls in place. But I guess if you're burned good, you have a hard time seeing the difference.

Still, I can't say it doesn't burn right back. I'm putting everything I got into this, night after night, weekend after weekend, all I really want is for people to play this and enjoy this (and if you want to support in any way, you get my deepest gratitude, but if you don't or can't, I'm still happy as a June bug that you're enjoying this game, because that's why I'm doing this in the first place). Someone coming along and trying to make it like you're the thing that's wrong with this industry, or some money-grabbing corporate entity, or a lazy bum milking hapless rubes for all they got, that really throws me, and I can assure you it's the best way possible to suck the joy out of the day of any dev out there who loves this little *********** of the internet and is trying to give a little back to it.
 

Terminator_26F

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Apr 1, 2019
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Frankly, NR, if there are still some assholes who have nothing better to do than come and throw up anything, just to make themselves feel like they exist, then you piss them off. Shit them off just by not giving them any attention or importance (they don't have any importance) and you stay focused on your supporters, the real ones, the ones who love what you do and wait as long as it takes for you to create the future chapters of your beautiful story with your even more beautiful heroines ... the rest is irrelevant!
 

Miðgarðsormr

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Oct 1, 2017
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Cheers, and thanks for all your kind words. It does help, I can tell you. In this case, it's not the guy that got banned, if you look at the history, there's some nice and resonable interactions there.

I think what's happened here is mostly that someone burnt by past experiences somehow's gotten to feel that devs are the unpleasantness that has has to be dealt with to get to your favorite games, like some the creepy peddler that is trying to overcharge you for your order while they keep licking their lips as they stare at your groin. I don't get that, really, I'm making the entire game free for everyone to play the moment it releases, no content locked, no paywalls in place. But I guess if you're burned good, you have a hard time seeing the difference.

Still, I can't say it doesn't burn right back. I'm putting everything I got into this, night after night, weekend after weekend, all I really want is for people to play this and enjoy this (and if you want to support in any way, you get my deepest gratitude, but if you don't or can't, I'm still happy as a June bug that you're enjoying this game, because that's why I'm doing this in the first place). Someone coming along and trying to make it like you're the thing that's wrong with this industry, or some money-grabbing corporate entity, or a lazy bum milking hapless rubes for all they got, that really throws me, and I can assure you it's the best way possible to suck the joy out of the day of any dev out there who loves this little *********** of the internet and is trying to give a little back to it.
Maybe i am to cold for this but i am tired of explaining to such people how bad experiences are not an excuse to be a dick or an asshole towards others. I always try to be polite but there is a point when i just lose it with certain people who want to make up an issue when there is nothing to complain about.

You can have 20 people praising your work and at the same day one asshole who manages to bring you down and ruin your day. In my experience we are allowing them to bring us down. We choose to let this affect us that much. So i simply started to choose that those individuals can kiss my behind and while there can eat the nuts out of my shit before i let them speak again.

Don't let this dude or anyone else bring your mood down or ruin your day. Ignore them as they only try to get to you cause they know they have nothing else in their life. If someone close to them rises they have to bring that someone down in order to elevate themselves to feel better about their life. Such people are not worth to lose a thought over.

As an old saying goes. First they ignore you. Then they make fun of you, Then they fight you (You are here). Then you win.
 

clowns234

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Game Developer
May 2, 2021
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Cheers, and thanks for all your kind words. It does help, I can tell you. In this case, it's not the guy that got banned, if you look at the history, there's some nice and resonable interactions there.

I think what's happened here is mostly that someone burnt by past experiences somehow's gotten to feel that devs are the unpleasantness that has has to be dealt with to get to your favorite games, like some the creepy peddler that is trying to overcharge you for your order while they keep licking their lips as they stare at your groin. I don't get that, really, I'm making the entire game free for everyone to play the moment it releases, no content locked, no paywalls in place. But I guess if you're burned good, you have a hard time seeing the difference.

Still, I can't say it doesn't burn right back. I'm putting everything I got into this, night after night, weekend after weekend, all I really want is for people to play this and enjoy this (and if you want to support in any way, you get my deepest gratitude, but if you don't or can't, I'm still happy as a June bug that you're enjoying this game, because that's why I'm doing this in the first place). Someone coming along and trying to make it like you're the thing that's wrong with this industry, or some money-grabbing corporate entity, or a lazy bum milking hapless rubes for all they got, that really throws me, and I can assure you it's the best way possible to suck the joy out of the day of any dev out there who loves this little *********** of the internet and is trying to give a little back to it.
Haters love to hate. Bitchers love to bitch. Those people will always be out there. :(
 

Reese286

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Nov 24, 2017
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Maybe i am to cold for this but i am tired of explaining to such people how bad experiences are not an excuse to be a dick or an asshole towards others. I always try to be polite but there is a point when i just lose it with certain people who want to make up an issue when there is nothing to complain about.

You can have 20 people praising your work and at the same day one asshole who manages to bring you down and ruin your day. In my experience we are allowing them to bring us down. We choose to let this affect us that much. So i simply started to choose that those individuals can kiss my behind and while there can eat the nuts out of my shit before i let them speak again.

Don't let this dude or anyone else bring your mood down or ruin your day. Ignore them as they only try to get to you cause they know they have nothing else in their life. If someone close to them rises they have to bring that someone down in order to elevate themselves to feel better about their life. Such people are not worth to lose a thought over.

As an old saying goes. First they ignore you. Then they make fun of you, Then they fight you (You are here). Then you win.
Truth. As an old dude I can say the one lesson I think everyone should learn is to Never accept the drama from haters and trolls _ Fuck um. Don't allow them to define you, influence your actions, get you wound up emotionally or take you off course. Live Your Life as you see fit. Give them no power or they will drag you down into the shit they wallow in and cover you in the stink. Same for drunks, crazy woman, and false friends _ stay away from them, you can't fix any of that and trying will bring nothing good into your life.

And remember: What pisses the haters and crazies off most is watching you prosper _ and that makes me smile :)
 

nodice20

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Jun 26, 2019
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NR there are always going to be people that are ungrateful and/or are assholes. You find them in every walk of life, profession, and hobby. You just have to center yourself enough to realize that they are the ones in the wrong and don't feed into anyone else's issues. Are there some devs that burn or milk supporters? Sure. Is that really worth anyone doing anything beyond not supporting them? No. So don't feel worried about having to justify someone else's crazy personal crusader.

Light of My Life is by far one of the best games on here by a long shot.
 

Dragon59

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Futa_Buddy

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Nov 24, 2018
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I'm gonna play devils advocate here; lots of games on here have LOOONG update times that end up with the game being abandoned, the dev going completely silent, and running an inactive Patreon (basically stealing money from the people that supported them)... that's not what's happening with this game (thankfully) but I understand where that dude is coming from, he didn't express his feelings in a healthy manner but with so many games on here (games with great potential) getting abandoned he's justifiably angry... I get angry too but I don't shit post, I just move on with my life (lol).

In a perfect world this dev would be making enough money to hire a team to work on the game for them; create amazing updates every month, with branching storylines, character expansions, spin-offs, and a dick on every girl (it would be amazing), with money left over for blackjack and hookers! But we don't live in a perfect world...
 

Dragon59

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Apr 24, 2020
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You may feel you have a right to complain, but you should have no expectation that what you say has any influence on the project. We also get rather tired of people popping into forums to complain without taking the time to understand first. It may be a bit crude, but the old adage, money talks, bullshit walks, still applies in commercial spaces. In a public forum on a private space, you have the opportunity (not right) to talk, but no guarantee that you'll be taken seriously.

There are a few developers who are putting out very uncommon content that is not appreciated by the average player, whose work appeals to a limited demographic because of the emotional quality of the story (we tend to be older too). LoML is one of those gems. Like I said, not everyone "gets" this game, and your rather thoughtless reaction (showing not a lot of forethought) suggests that right now, you don't get it. I hope you find the ability to appreciate it, or barring that, find a game that does meet your interests and sensibility.
 
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