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TundraLupus

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Definitely more likely. The only case of consensual incest I know of in reality has been between brother and sister. If they are within a couple of years of each other, they are likely to be curious at the same time (therefore mutual), and they won't have a great power imbalance, one of the biggest social problems with inter-generational incest. Also, such intra-generational exploration would usually take place before they are 18, so that makes it even worse if it were inter-generational.

Of course, in this case, NR is using the story of Lot and his Daughters as the model, and in that case, the power dynamic is switched as well. It is the daughters who "take advantage" of the grieving, impaired father/guardian.
yep, I actually really like this dynamic although still kinda creepy, because of the "taking advantage" part, it is far less creepy than the other way around.
 

naughtyroad

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I skipped all none "family" members but one thing is so confusing how the female on male thoughts go - "It feels so wrong, im confused, dont know what to do" but then there´s complete lesbo free for all! (...)
I'm not sure how much attention you were giving to the motivation of the characters in the game, but "it feels so wrong/I'm confused" is not what's making one of wards keeps her distance, and it's certainly not a reason the other one is acting the way she is. The wards will acknowledge the unusualness of the relation, and think about it, but it's not a thing that's actually stopping them from doing anything, and the one most concerned with the implications of being physical with his ward(s) seems to be the MC, depending on your choices.

In fact, the whole "ohmygosh my poppa-figure has a magic dick, I'm don't know why I want it so bad and now I'm just waiting for him to break down my reservations" schtick that usually goes with lines like "It feels so wrong, im confused" is one I made some care to avoid, because it's a bit tired and hackneyed at this point, and not all that interesting as character motivation goes.
And of course, because the narrative has to make sense from the point of view Patreon and I intended the game to be received, which is without the icky-icky incestual bits that were part of the biblical story but completely against Patreon TOS.

(...) Of course, in this case, NR is using the story of Lot and his Daughters as the model, and in that case, the power dynamic is switched as well. It is the daughters who "take advantage" of the grieving, impaired father/guardian.
yep, I actually really like this dynamic although still kinda creepy, because of the "taking advantage" part, it is far less creepy than the other way around.
Tbh, this part gave me most pause, as I'm rather uncomfortable with the non-consensual part of the source material (the story of Lot). That the MC as the figure in a position of authority is passive here helps a little to take the edge off, but I made sure to have the MC give his consent of sorts before the event (even if he didn't quite know what he'd be consenting to). And the entire sequence is skippable without serious consequences for those that still feel uncomfortable about it
In fact, my favorite path through the dialog of the nighttime scene in the vacation lodge, when the question comes up about whether to proceed or not, is to first have Macy protest a little ("he's our caretaker" or "He's asleep."), which will cause Denise to come up with some counter arguments pointing some of the above out, before you have to make the final choice about skipping or not.
 
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naughtyroad

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I really dig the art, but i dont like father/daugher incest, is it possible to just be a father to them and romance other characters?
Well, two things. First of all, it's not incest because that would be against Patreon TOS, but some people choose to modify the way they address each other in the game to make it appear that way. Don't modify it, and you should be fine.

Secondly, if you feel uncomfortable with the caretaker/wards dynamic, you have the option to opt out at some point, locking you out of the wards' paths but leaving the other characters available. Note that it'll be skipping over fair chunks of the game if you do, and even if I did my best to keep the narrative coherent and compelling, the experience won't be the same exactly.
 

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Well, two things. First of all, it's not incest because that would be against Patreon TOS, but some people choose to modify the way they address each other in the game to make it appear that way. Don't modify it, and you should be fine.

Secondly, if you feel uncomfortable with the caretaker/wards dynamic, you have the option to opt out at some point, locking you out of the wards' paths but leaving the other characters available. Note that it'll be skipping over fair chunks of the game if you do, and even if I did my best to keep the narrative coherent and compelling, the experience won't be the same exactly.
Thx for your answer, but i dislike exacly this caretaker/ward(father/daughter, hovewer u call its all semantics, i've seen a fair shair of landladys with all this patreon stuff) dynamic, i will try it and see if i like it, good luck with your game either way!
 

rednaske

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naughtyroad just wanted to tell you, from the bottom of my Belgian heart: what a beautifully written, extremely sexy, nicely paced and aesthetically pleasing game! I absolutely love it. I constantly check this thread, hoping a new chapter has magically arrived, and then realising no time at all has passed and you are just human.

Keep up the good work.Totally love what you do. Utmost respect.
 

PBS666

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naughtyroad just wanted to tell you, from the bottom of my Belgian heart: what a beautifully written, extremely sexy, nicely paced and aesthetically pleasing game!
Groot gelijk!
I constantly check this thread, hoping a new chapter has magically arrived, and then realising no time at all has passed and you are just human.
Ge zijt niet de enige.

(translation for the english speaking ones: Absolutely right! You're not the only one)
 

davemarg

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I skipped all none "family" members but one thing is so confusing how the female on male thoughts go - "It feels so wrong, im confused, dont know what to do" but then there´s complete lesbo free for all!
Think all we got so far is a handjob and a semi blowjob while asleep, while the numerous petting and cunnilingius scenes keeps growing.
Yup, I am in the same boat but this opinion is somewhat forbidden in this thread as everyone is expected to think the same and give 100% praise. The only H you find is with side character trolls and the main chars have next to nothing. I really liked the way that bathroom visits were developing (didn't mind slowness at all) and then the fucking trip ruined it so now its back in the waiting game to see if anything happens when they come back. We might see an update by the end of the year but I would not hold my breath that the H scene situation will improve. I just wish bathroom and couch scenes continue progressing...
 

red_faced

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Well, two things. First of all, it's not incest because that would be against Patreon TOS, but some people choose to modify the way they address each other in the game to make it appear that way. Don't modify it, and you should be fine.

Secondly, if you feel uncomfortable with the caretaker/wards dynamic, you have the option to opt out at some point, locking you out of the wards' paths but leaving the other characters available. Note that it'll be skipping over fair chunks of the game if you do, and even if I did my best to keep the narrative coherent and compelling, the experience won't be the same exactly.
I prefer playing with them as wards, so it's not just Patreon TOS either.
 
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meyele

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Personally, I would prefer for halloween ... maybe?
I was thinking the same thing, but Naughty said there was going to be some slow down because new assets and more complex scenes, i don't think we'll get it by halloween but realitically i think by christmas we should already have the new update, again,judging by the progress bar over the last few weeks.
 
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