InvaderZim

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Stayed away from the comments after I got an update notice for my patreon account......and now almost finished playing this update. All I have to say is OMG!!!....this better not be some dream sequence or something. So help me if I finish the next few minutes and poof the MC wakes up...I will hunt you down and ...
make naughty write it properly THIS time..

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MrFriendly

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Well, that was fantastic naughtyroad, next time I go by an abandoned gas station I'm a have me some naughty thoughts because of you. :ROFLMAO:

I have to wonder how close to the end we are getting, not that I want this to end, but I just don't know how much further there is to go.
 
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I agree that this update doesn't need a walkthrough (at least I hope I didn't miss anything). However, some people have a very limited amount of time they can spend playing these games and a walkthrough helpls them to know they aren't missing things. I don't have the time to do multiple playthroughs and it pisses me off when I learn that I missed whole story lines because I made a choice hours back in a game and know there is no way I'm ever going to have the time to go back and follow another path. I have zero anxiety about making choices. I just don't want to waste my time looking for the correct random choice combo that gets to certain scenes.

Thanks for the entertainment. And thanks to the people that compile the walkthroughs that help people like me optimize their time.
Just extract the images if you're worried about missing a render..
 

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I've commented before at length on how good I think this game is, but again... I want to highlight the level of detail this game has as this update has an entry field for a scene and I entered a word influenced from earlier in the chapter and got a little fan-fair-esque response; this happened before as well when I named the youngest daughter's 'Cosita'. I seriously can't say it enough how charming and adorable this game is while also being sultry and salacious. Again, A+.

Oh, and this music... it's good enough to listen to all on its own.
 

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I've commented before at length on how good I think this game is, but again... I want to highlight the level of detail this game has as this update has an entry field for a scene and I entered a word influenced from earlier in the chapter and got a little fan-fair-esque response; this happened before as well when I named the youngest daughter's 'Cosita'. I seriously can't say it enough how charming and adorable this game is while also being sultry and salacious. Again, A+.
Same, I do love this game and story :) so much so that when my roommate told me she wanted to try a VN this game was the one I gave her, she staid up all night playing it and then crashed woke up and started playing more, she loved it so much she didn't want to stop until she saw EVERYTHING, and has just been gushing at me with questions that i have to answer as "only naughty knows" to the point that its starting to feel like I'm telling her to pray to some Diety of AVNs lol
 

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Same, I do love this game and story :) so much so that when my roommate told me she wanted to try a VN this game was the one I gave her, she staid up all night playing it and then crashed woke up and started playing more, she loved it so much she didn't want to stop until she saw EVERYTHING, and has just been gushing at me with questions that i have to answer as "only naughty knows" to the point that its starting to feel like I'm telling her to pray to some Diety of AVNs lol
Ya, I felt like I wanted to call off for a couple days when the update released. I was thinking about the early parts of the game and where I'm at now with the latest update and it's a little overwhelming thinking about how far the story has come. I think that eventually the game will come to a satisfying conclusion (later the better), but then I imagine what kind of follow-up masterpiece NR could come up with and any feels I had are whisked away. And I totally agree, anyone looking to get into this kind of gaming should absolutely start with this one; I think my first was Tales of Androgyny, but to be fair I was looking for something along the lines of Still Life, something story heavy... which this game certainly has plenty of.
 
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Grusha

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Stayed away from the comments after I got an update notice for my patreon account......and now almost finished playing this update. All I have to say is OMG!!!....this better not be some dream sequence or something. So help me if I finish the next few minutes and poof the MC wakes up...I will hunt you down and ...

no dream....whew! Great update, lots of fun.
This is the first update I've waited on, I only recently discovered this game back in like September or so. The wait was well worth it, it's like someone else said... when NR releases an update, it takes a little time but damn is it worth it. I find myself using my saves to save my favorite moments rather than saving strategically xD but then again, this game is so much more forgiving than like... Dating My Daughter.
 

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Just an idea, IF Mama Susan (quoting ItsaGundam LoL) allows:

When someone does a sexual thing to the protagonist, Yeah the one with the POV interactions, and he is not aware of it, It didn't happen, and well, technically speaking it is rape... My solution would be making him aware of what is going on, but make it so he keeps his eyes closed. Why? Cause he would not risk comfronting any of them, cause last time he did, he kind of lost one of his "roommates" and took him a lot of pain to reach the current "healthy" relationship. This if he considers that is the older one doing it.

If he considers that is the youger one, then he would want to confront her and having to expose the secret encounters or scare her since she is not stable, or making her/them ashamed and lose them cause maybe he does not want to crush the foundation that "he built" with the bathroom massages and all that. This matches with his current father/love interest/desire conflicts.
If you make the girls whisper, considering that he is around 40 tiinitus is a bitch, it would be more than plausible that he is not able to know who is speaking, with the storm and rain added outside the noise threshold would be high enough to mask the whispers, specially considering that the 2 girls are really close to each other.

There will always be holes but at this point any person who has been reading the story knows the MC, so there is no need to make him asleep (which in my opinion atacks suspension of disbelief) He can be "awake" without affecting the plot, if you are trying to give something to the player without scalating things too early. He woulndt make a big deal of it in this case is just added baggage, and still fits the logic of what is coming next, since she becomes more open.

But if what you are aiming for in that scene is just a lesbian scene with a dick as an excuse and just want to focus on the older one's desires, well, one idea would be make the little one play with the older one as they are, and instead of a HJ, she could just finger her or something and at some point the older one could bend over and rest her head close the dick, and maybe give into temptation and have a taste as part of the climax process. That could work pretty well if you want to tease, and works with the next encounter dialogue. A soft mouth in your dick will not awake you specially if its not a sensitve area, and sleeping with 2 people, having a body part on top of you would not awake you either since its kind of expected in a crowded bed.

Wow my imagination run wild here! The End.
 

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and finally, he did it
still can't get enough of that game, a unique without copying the characters from other games
already waiting for the next update, yet the last one was released a few days ago :LOL: :LOL:
 
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Rabbac

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I can only 2nd and 3rd etc what has mainly been stated... A wait that wasnt disappointing and part 2 was impressively as good as part one and I loved part 1.

Keep up the great work... patience is a virtue which is well rewarded :)

By far the best game i've played on this site... original original original .. the only thing that comes close for me was the 1st visual novel i tried Katawa Shoujo which i still have a soft spot for but this is my new number one.
 

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When someone does a sexual thing to the protagonist, Yeah the one with the POV interactions, and he is not aware of it, It didn't happen, and well, technically speaking it is rape...
Let me help you understand why there is no rape in the game. When 2 adults are having sex or making love whatever you wanna call it the moment consent is established the "rape" argument is out the window. Otherwise my wife is raping me on a regular basis.
Your assumption in this is the fact that the MC would have a problem with that. Which isn't the case as Denise is helping the MC with his release in a morning ritual. So consent is already established. And you can't argue that Macy is no part of the ritual. The MC and Denise make it crystal clear early on that its either all 3 of them or nothing at all.
And yes it did happen otherwise Macy got a mouth full of imaginary fluids.

My solution would be making him aware of what is going on, but make it so he keeps his eyes closed. Why? Cause he would not risk comfronting any of them, cause last time he did, he kind of lost one of his "roommates" and took him a lot of pain to reach the current "healthy" relationship. This if he considers that is the older one doing it.
The solution is already in the game as consent is established based on how the story is presenting itself and how they interact with each other. If consent would have been an issue someone woul have stated so already.

If he considers that is the youger one, then he would want to confront her and having to expose the secret encounters or scare her since she is not stable, or making her/them ashamed and lose them cause maybe he does not want to crush the foundation that "he built" with the bathroom massages and all that. This matches with his current father/love interest/desire conflicts.
If you make the girls whisper, considering that he is around 40 tiinitus is a bitch, it would be more than plausible that he is not able to know who is speaking, with the storm and rain added outside the noise threshold would be high enough to mask the whispers, specially considering that the 2 girls are really close to each other.
No one is ashamed of anything in this story thats the whole point of the story happening the way it does. They screw moral or society standards by a single goal. Love and be loved. And it is exactly this engine of love (not lust) that drives all three closer together to one another. Not guilt or shame or anything else. If you follow the story you figure this out early on.

There will always be holes but at this point any person who has been reading the story knows the MC, so there is no need to make him asleep (which in my opinion atacks suspension of disbelief) He can be "awake" without affecting the plot, if you are trying to give something to the player without scalating things too early. He woulndt make a big deal of it in this case is just added baggage, and still fits the logic of what is coming next, since she becomes more open.
Thats not even an (i assume you mean plot "holes") issue as they are not sure yet what the MC thinks about it. It is Denise who asks directly and makes sure everything is fine and ok with Macy and the MC and that if Macy would act a certain way the MC would not judge her or be mad at her at all. He would welcome it as his love for her and Denise is unconditional. They literally can't fuck up their relationship with him as the story is written atm.

But if what you are aiming for in that scene is just a lesbian scene with a dick as an excuse and just want to focus on the older one's desires, well, one idea would be make the little one play with the older one as they are, and instead of a HJ, she could just finger her or something and at some point the older one could bend over and rest her head close the dick, and maybe give into temptation and have a taste as part of the climax process. That could work pretty well if you want to tease, and works with the next encounter dialogue. A soft mouth in your dick will not awake you specially if its not a sensitve area, and sleeping with 2 people, having a body part on top of you would not awake you either since its kind of expected in a crowded bed.
See and here we have the entire issue in your story. You want the scenes or the story to unfold in a different direction and a different approach because YOU would have done it differently.
Thats not how this works. This is naughtyroad's game and his story and how he wants to present it is also his choice and not ours. You don't read a good book or watch a good movie and call the makers afterwards and tell em to either rewrite said book or reshoot the movie so you can watch a different scene.

Now if you want something in future updates like different positions out the kamasutra or something like that i am pretty sure you could go over to discord and discuss it our bring some ideas to the table. But if they get added or not is up to naughtyroad.

My advice would be to just play the game and follow the story for what it is. In the end we always get a 10/10 story with amazing characters.
 

naughtyroad

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Let me help you understand why there is no rape in the game. (...)
Hmm, I seem to have missed al the humdrum here.

Usually, I wouldn't come out and go in depth about story elements here, but let's have one final say on the R word and be done with this forever, because this is a laden one; the casual handling of it in the source material for that sequence (Lot's stay in the caves of Zoar), but also at other points earlier in that story, are troubling.

For those wonder what part this is about, it's the optional scene in the previous chapter when Macy and Denise give the MC a hand-job while he's asleep during the vacation.

As you so rightly pointed out, consent is already established in LomL, in this case the MC has given full consent for these events to take place.

It is in fact explicitly established in this way:
  • during the morning talks with Denise, where she asks of and is given consent by the MC to touch the MC at any point.
  • It is later doubled down on during the scene with the bear, where the MC states that this is allowed at any time, and even when he's asleep.
  • It is then extended to Macy during the scene where they are sitting on the couch sharing a blanket, when Denise is given to understand what applies to her applies to Macy.
  • Denise then tells this to Macy in the night scene, thus informing Macy she has consent to proceed.
Therefore, there is no non-consensual content in LomL, and neither do any the characters think they are performing an non-consensual act. What's more there never will be such content either.

Any other interpretation is simply invalid, and that is not a matter of opinion, it is canon, it is unambiguous, and it is not a handwave.

As a final note, there's even an out for those players who still feel uncomfortable with this sequence even though all actions are within full consent (which I fully understand, because there's still the echo of the troubling biblical story there), because the scene is completely optional and declining to have it take place has no negative consequences down the line.
 
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InvaderZim

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Hmm, I seem to have missed al the humdrum here.

Usually, I wouldn't come out and go in depth about story elements here, but let's have one final say on the R word and be done with this forever, because this is a laden one; the casual handling of it in the source material for that sequence (Lot's stay in the caves of Zoar), but also at other points earlier in that story, are troubling.
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That whole thing read to me like straight out of Reddit. The crowd there is absolutely obsessed with consent. If any act, no matter how small is not signed in triplicate and notarized -> Rape. Age difference more than 3 years -> rape/grooming and so on. Slight exaggeration, by not by much. There's a lot of headshaking from this old geezer reading that place.

Reading some of the sex attitudes coming from there to the missus, her reaction is of the line : "Doesn't sound like they're having much fun". And that's her more PC take.
 

InvaderZim

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See and here we have the entire issue in your story. You want the scenes or the story to unfold in a different direction and a different approach because YOU would have done it differently.
Thats not how this works. This is naughtyroad's game and his story and how he wants to present it is also his choice and not ours. You don't read a good book or watch a good movie and call the makers afterwards and tell em to either rewrite said book or reshoot the movie so you can watch a different scene.
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