Grizzly^_^

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Ok so previously I told you 'fuck you' for the start of Chapter 3. Add another for Macy's dream...
I am actually sheading tears here. Stop it...
No that last scene of Chapter 3 does not make anything fine... Damn it...
 

naughtyroad

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64 GB Ram and yet i run into out of memory errors every 10 or so scenes? Is this common?
Given that that very same code base runs perfectly fine on very modest (sometimes aging) computers as well as an assortment of android phones and tablets of different ages and sizes, I'd say it's safe to assume the problems is with your device.

Make sure you use one of my distributions, make sure you've unzipped the game and are not running it from within the zip. Make double sure to not use any mods, and maybe if you've used the WT mod in the past, to start a fresh game. Consider going into your task manager to see if there is indeed a problem with RAM consumption for any app at all, and run a RAM check tool to see if there's no memory problems.
 

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Can someone tell me if there is a separate route for Macy and MC? I'm going nuts trying different options but keep failing miserabely. I usualy don't touch incest themes with a ten feet pole, so I'm having hard times in scenes with Denise (I feel like a last damn pedo, doh). Whaterver I do, it all turns to be "all or nothing" pattern. Is it even possible to hit on Macy and skip Denise part?
 

Miðgarðsormr

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Can someone tell me if there is a separate route for Macy and MC? I'm going nuts trying different options but keep failing miserabely. I usualy don't touch incest themes with a ten feet pole, so I'm having hard times in scenes with Denise (I feel like a last damn pedo, doh). Whaterver I do, it all turns to be "all or nothing" pattern. Is it even possible to hit on Macy and skip Denise part?
Nope. It is a package deal. You get both or you get none.
 

InvaderZim

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Can someone tell me if there is a separate route for Macy and MC? I'm going nuts trying different options but keep failing miserabely. I usualy don't touch incest themes with a ten feet pole, so I'm having hard times in scenes with Denise (I feel like a last damn pedo, doh). Whaterver I do, it all turns to be "all or nothing" pattern. Is it even possible to hit on Macy and skip Denise part?
Macy & Denise is and will remain a package deal.

You do know they are sisters, right? And both are adults.
 

naughtyroad

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so is the walkthrough mod being updated or has it bin removed completely
I'm entirely unsure, but I do know that the way it was set up in chapter 4 (and continued in chapter 5 by someone else) was completely unmaintainable. It duplicated 400 source files to add a color tag on several of some 1000+ choices in the game. Merging that duplicate, modified source with the new versions of my source would have been quite a job for any professional developer.

So I'm not surprised the first mod maker gave up, and the second mod maker didn't even bother to merge changes when they took over and introduced a lot of issues back into the game that finally blew up in chapter 6. In fact, strictly speaking, the walkthrough mod wasn't even compatible with chapter 5, but the issues weren't so noticeable yet there so whatever came up there, it was probably just written off as "usual buggy implementations we've come to expect from VNs".

If there is to be another one, it should be a reboot, and one that uses a very different technique from this low-initial-effort-unable-to-maintain code duplication crap, because that's just plain unprofessional for a code base like mine. Idk what it should be though. Possibly involving the ren'py translation mechanisms (that's where I'd start digging into if I were making one tbh)?

Anyone willing to take it up is more than welcome to reach out to me and discuss options, or to get my developer notes on the choices in the game and what their impact is, which I'll happily share (but neither walkthrough mod maker bothered to ask for).
 
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naughtyroad

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Yeah, right. Only one of them looks and acts like a young adult and that is Macy. Sorry but I'm not buying BS with Denise being 18+. Physically and mentaly she's still seems a child (and that makes her "untouchable" for me). But Macy on the other hand... Quite the opposite.
You're of course welcome to your opinion, but Denise absolutely has the physique of a young adult, and what you call mentally immature, others might say is the result of someone who probably already experienced the world in quite a different way even before certain events caused her to withdraw into herself and create a place for herself without sharp edges.

But that's neither here nor there, at the heart of it is the matter that you enjoy one character but not the other and that is quite alright.
But their story lines together are so intertwined that I can't split them apart; they are constantly playing off each other in their ramping up of interactions with the MC and each other, and splitting them up would mean having to create three completely separate storylines (for their combined paths and each separate path). I already have my hands full just creating one game, I'm not about to create three at once. :D

So if you truly feel that way, there's not much to say than thanks for giving it a try (and I mean that sincerely) and better luck next time.
 

InvaderZim

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........, others might say is the result of someone who probably already experienced the world in quite a different way even before certain events caused her to withdraw into herself and create a place for herself without sharp edges.
Seen this myself in people who have experienced trauma in their formative years. They carry many "childlike" characteristics with them well into adulthood, well beyond the age of even Macy.
 

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You're of course welcome to your opinion, but Denise absolutely has the physique of a young adult, and what you call mentally immature, others might say is the result of someone who probably already experienced the world in quite a different way even before certain events caused her to withdraw into herself and create a place for herself without sharp edges.

But that's neither here nor there, at the heart of it is the matter that you enjoy one character but not the other and that is quite alright.
But their story lines together are so intertwined that I can't split them apart; they are constantly playing off each other in their ramping up of interactions with the MC and each other, and splitting them up would mean having to create three completely separate storylines (for their combined paths and each separate path). I already have my hands full just creating one game, I'm not about to create three at once. :D

So if you truly feel that way, there's not much to say than thanks for giving it a try (and I mean that sincerely) and better luck next time.
There was no need to explain, really. It's your game, your concept and I totally respect that. It's obvious to me that there is no possible way of having all routes anyone could think of, it would be a nightmare to deal with.
But you are right, it's not my thing - I usualy avoid such themes. It's just one of your characters remind me someone I've known years ago. It was a nice memory...
Anyway, it's a solid peace of work you did. Kudos for that & Good luck with your game!
 
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