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Count Morado

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I see passions are running high here. I'm also waiting for the sequel, hooked. But I understand the developer, it is quite possible he is happy to finish by a certain deadline, but the trouble is his characters do not listen to him and do everything wrong. I think this is the problem, rather than the number of hours spent on typing code.
Don't forget to provide an English translation, please. (fixed it here in the quote)

If you are saying that instead of him writing the story, the characters (in his mind) choose to make decisions which cause him to work more to bring their stories to fruition in the game - you may be correct. I know that when I am writing short stories and am working on my longer writings that while I have plans for the plotline, I find that the characters have a will of their own. I may find myself transcribing scenes which I hadn't imagined would take place, initially.

I don't find that a problem. I think some fans anxious to play the next chapter see it as a problem, when it is not. It's just part of the creative creation process. Some things go quicker than expected, some take longer. Over the past 50 years of video games, the public has been conditioned to play games after development is complete and so the public isn't really aware of all the hills and valleys of the development process. It's only the past decade where a larger audience of players have had a behind-the-scenes experience of production cycles of some games in development. As such, they become frustrated with situations that are normal in the process. Understandable, but expectations should be tempered and consideration should be taken.
 

naughtyroad

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Oh, that is true. The girls do have minds of their own and they go off on tangents from time to time, leading the dialog into directions I never thought about or intended it to go. I've sort of given up on trying to keep them in check, as good things come out of it more often than not. A nice example is the aftermath of Macy's first time with the MC. She did not like where I wanted to go with that originally at all, and refused to play ball, and in the end, her way made for a much more touching scene than what it would have been if I had my way, I think.
 

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Oh, that is true. The girls do have minds of their own and they go off on tangents from time to time, leading the dialog into directions I never thought about or intended it to go. I've sort of given up on trying to keep them in check, as good things come out of it more often than not. A nice example is the aftermath of Macy's first time with the MC. She did not like where I wanted to go with that originally at all, and refused to play ball, and in the end, her way made for a much more touching scene than what it would have been if I had my way, I think.
Curious where you originally wanted to go. Don't have to answer, though.

Edit: I like that your characters are that real to you. Not nearly enough of that in writing nowadays.
 
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naughtyroad

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Curious where you originally wanted to go. Don't have to answer, though.

Edit: I like that your characters are that real to you. Not nearly enough of that in writing nowadays.
Well, originally, I thought they'd get all shocked about what they just did, and get all bashful and shy, and the MC might have dialog options to coax her out from behind some walls she'd quickly pulled up. But instead, she kept on joking, trying to shock the mc, talk about what happened, to connect with him really. So I gave up and let her run with that.

Mind you, there's quite a few different ways that scene can play out. Here's a diagram I did for it for a blog post on patreon/subscribestar a while back (after the fact, I don't document my work in that way normally). Sometimes it feels like you gotta keep two or three versions of a character in your head, not just one. :D
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Well, originally, I thought they'd get all shocked about what they just did, and get all bashful and shy, and the MC might have dialog options to coax her out from behind some walls she'd quickly pulled up. But instead, she kept on joking, trying to shock the mc, talk about what happened, to connect with him really. So I gave up and let her run with that.

Mind you, there's quite a few different ways that scene can play out. Here's a diagram I did for it for a blog post on patreon/subscribestar a while back (after the fact, I don't document my work in that way normally). Sometimes it feels like you gotta keep two or three versions of a character in your head, not just one. :D
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Lol. You're seriously surprising the hell out of me with the way you talk about story and character building. It feels like you're part of an endangered species. It really gives me hope to see there are still writers out there.
 

Ali ibn Hassan

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He will never finish this update. This looks like the grandest troll job ever on a platform such as this. Finish the product you promised or get to stepping. Flipping ridiculous bro... The next announcement will be, should be done by the 4th of July. Too much bs attention seeking and hubris. Instead of showing what you've left out, finish the work.
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Count Morado

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He will never finish this update. This looks like the grandest troll job ever on a platform such as this. Finish the product you promised or get to stepping. Flipping ridiculous bro... The next announcement will be, should be done by the 4th of July. Too much bs attention seeking and hubris. Instead of showing what you've left out, finish the work.
Nearly 4 years to type 60 words and you're kvetching about the time it is taking to develop an update that includes 5-10 hours of playtime, hundreds of images and thousands of words, for a VN you aren't required to pay a single penny for because the developer gives it to the public for free. I guess it's true what the old man said, "It's not easy being green."
 

Count Morado

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I'm going to criticize an update that takes a year and a half. I have enjoyed the game. Pushed further and further back as to the progress date. Therefore I provide some motivation through my critical analysis. Do you not understand how men work?
I think you're tossing words out that you don't completely comprehend. The developer owes you nothing. Doesn't owe you a word, an image; doesn't owe you the time of day. He has stated time and again that production schedule doesn't have a deadline, but that it will be ready when it's ready and not a moment before. You didn't pay a dime for it, you didn't pay a penny for it. Even if you are now or were ever a subscriber - that isn't paying for the VN.

The developer literally creates this VN and gives it to the public for free. The audacity that you are demanding a gift - and that is what it is, a gift, something given to you in exchange for nothing - to be given sooner shows that you aren't using any critical thought, but rather showing yourself as a prime example of entitlement.
 

Count Morado

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And I believe everyone here would appreciate not seeing cat balls as well as the anus. Morado, that's too weird. Go cat scratch fever yourself to sleep.
I think you are drunk posting because I didn't post anything of the sort. You should power down your computer and move along. And I agree with Xanado - it's awfully suspect that a 4 year old account would go from zero posts to spamming a thread.
 

affen123

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That is totally incorrect. I log on and find a game that looks decent to me and then play the game. I am not a troll or some nutjob. Don't project yourself on someone like me.
If you've just started playing the game now, you should have noticed the progress this game has made and the wait until the next release is relatively short compared to the others.
 

Ali ibn Hassan

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Write, don't post gifs or memes. Flipping lazy and a demonstration of an unoriginal mind.
I'm sorry but words can not describe the impression of your initial ascertainment :
"He will never finish this update. This looks like the grandest troll job ever on a platform such as this. Finish the product you promised or get to stepping."

In my mind a picture would express the true essence of what I felt a necessary response.
 
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He will never finish this update. This looks like the grandest troll job ever on a platform such as this. Finish the product you promised or get to stepping. Flipping ridiculous bro... The next announcement will be, should be done by the 4th of July. Too much bs attention seeking and hubris. Instead of showing what you've left out, finish the work.
Bro, if you're mad thirsty to choke your chicken over two young shorties with phat asses, you can just hit up Pornhub. No need to turn your personal thirst into beef.
 
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