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Breederboi

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“Self”, I said to myself. “What’s wrong now?”

“Why do you think somethings wrong?” I said, trying to deflect my query. I worried that I was onto myself, but tried to remain calm.

“Ohhh, I don’t know. Maybe the scrunched confused constipated expression on your face.”

“Poo Poo” A voice chimed in.

“Wait” I continued. “Have you been back to the Light of My Life thread?” “Oh Gawd!” “You have haven’t you?” Self accused, not waiting for me to respond. “Please. We’ve discussed this over and over again. It’s taking a bit longer than you and a bunch of other people expected and that thread is going to be a bit of cesspool until the update arrives. More and more vultures are going to descend proclaiming the project dead and try to feast upon its carcass. You know you don’t do well in that type of environment.”

“Cess Poo Poo” Another voice chimed in.

“Sorry?” I said looking down at my feet only to realize I couldn’t see them--just my oblong belly protruding from my midsection.

“Alright. What’s done is done.” Self huffed. “You’ve read something that‘s troubling you. Let’s have it. Spit it out.”

“Abandoned….Support….Conman….” Hissed a chorus of new voices.

“Does Mr. NR get…um…money every time someone posts in this thread?” I sheepishly asked.

“What…why…” My head was visibly vibrating. “No. Why would you…I mean I don’t believe so….NO! Of course not.” (So that’s what a “scrunched confused constipated expression” looks like.)

“Hard Poo Poo” Grunted another voice.

“Does F95 give money to Mr. NR?” I continued.

“Uh…” Exasperated Self began, “Look. I honestly don’t know how all this works, but my limited understanding is absolutely not. If anything Mr. NR would give the site money as a donation. It’s a Pirate site. People post developers game here so others can download it for free.”

“So…Mr. NR gives them money to steal his game?” Mushroom clouds were forming. “Never mind! I can feel my ears bleeding. Forget I asked.” I begged.

“This is not a test. Please seek shelter immediately.” An oddly calm but loud but far-off voice advised.

“That’s…what’s…bothering you?” Self asked (head still vibrating), knowing that it wasn’t and trying to brace for whatever would come next.

“Abandoned….Support….Conman….” The vultures screeched.

“Well I think some people want the game to be labeled Abandoned...And other game developers use progress bars but they really aren’t progressing… And Mr. NR hasn’t proved he’s updating...And I guess we need the Abandoned tag so we can stop supporting him…Only we’re not supporting him monetarily on this site…So if a game gets marked as Abandoned here I should not support it…Even though I’m already not supporting it…So should I then NOT not support it….Which means I should support it even if its…Ouch!” Naughty voice bit my ear and pulled my hair forcing my head back hard and whispered.

“Nooooo…Really…That’s how he’s supported here?”

Self’s head was a blur. “Do you ever take a breath? Gawd. I know I shouldn’t ask, but what is Naughty voice telling you now?”

“Um…apparently thread members take turns….um….firmly but gently….um….cupping Mr. NR’s testicles while he works. Literally supporting him.

“No. No. NO. NO. NO! NO!! NO!!!

“Stop. Duck and Cover” A voice from the 1950’s recommended.

Self took a deep deep breath. “Listen. This is a pirate site. People can get games here without paying the developer. Some use it as sort of a free trial. If they like the game/developer they then go to other sites to monetarily support game/developer. I’m of a mind that if a game has been abandoned there’s no point in supporting it. If the developer is a conman, they aren’t going to post on their pay sites that it’s abandoned so there is some small value to having a site like this post that it’s been abandoned, BUT none of that is applicable here with LoML and Mr. NR. You KNOW it’s not and that’s not just because you're a fanboi. So get your head on straight and lay low until the release. You…” Self’s head was back to normal although his face was very red. “…Wait…Did I hear correctly that you don’t monetarily support LoML?”

“Oh. Shit.” Self caught that?

“Juicy Runny Down-your-leg Poo Poo” A voice obviously pinching its nose while trying to speak described.

“You took a Pinkie Oath with the Girls. I know you did.” Self was pointing a finger at himself…us…me.

Eyes averted downward again (do I even have feet?) “YessnnNoooummMaybe?”

No voices. Just blaring sirens.

Self kept pointing. Waiting. Pointing.

I stammered on “I mean…Um…well about that…I kinda did but kinda didn’t. Just what are the actual rules on Pinkie Swearing? Are they rules or more like guidelines? Because I didn’t actually use my pinkie to…”

Self reached out a grabbed me by the shirt collar. “Didn’t use your pinkie. It’s Pinkie Swearing. With Denise. With Macy. Dear Gawd man…what else could you have possibly used. Anatomically, what’s as small as… your…pink...ie…Oh...” His face was still red but an entirely different shade. “Those poor poor girls…Im so so so so sorry Mr. NR…”

Self turned, stopped and sobbed then continued to walk away. Myself was gone. Leaving just Me and I.

“Abandoned….Unsupported….Conboi?….”
 

InvaderZim

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“Self”, I said to myself. “What’s wrong now?”

“Why do you think somethings wrong?” I said, trying to deflect my query. I worried that I was onto myself, but tried to remain calm.

“Ohhh, I don’t know. Maybe the scrunched confused constipated expression on your face.”

“Poo Poo” A voice chimed in.

“Wait” I continued. “Have you been back to the Light of My Life thread?” “Oh Gawd!” “You have haven’t you?” Self accused, not waiting for me to respond. “Please. We’ve discussed this over and over again. It’s taking a bit longer than you and a bunch of other people expected and that thread is going to be a bit of cesspool until the update arrives. More and more vultures are going to descend proclaiming the project dead and try to feast upon its carcass. You know you don’t do well in that type of environment.”

“Cess Poo Poo” Another voice chimed in.

“Sorry?” I said looking down at my feet only to realize I couldn’t see them--just my oblong belly protruding from my midsection.

“Alright. What’s done is done.” Self huffed. “You’ve read something that‘s troubling you. Let’s have it. Spit it out.”

“Abandoned….Support….Conman….” Hissed a chorus of new voices.

“Does Mr. NR get…um…money every time someone posts in this thread?” I sheepishly asked.

“What…why…” My head was visibly vibrating. “No. Why would you…I mean I don’t believe so….NO! Of course not.” (So that’s what a “scrunched confused constipated expression” looks like.)

“Hard Poo Poo” Grunted another voice.

“Does F95 give money to Mr. NR?” I continued.

“Uh…” Exasperated Self began, “Look. I honestly don’t know how all this works, but my limited understanding is absolutely not. If anything Mr. NR would give the site money as a donation. It’s a Pirate site. People post developers game here so others can download it for free.”

“So…Mr. NR gives them money to steal his game?” Mushroom clouds were forming. “Never mind! I can feel my ears bleeding. Forget I asked.” I begged.

“This is not a test. Please seek shelter immediately.” An oddly calm but loud but far-off voice advised.

“That’s…what’s…bothering you?” Self asked (head still vibrating), knowing that it wasn’t and trying to brace for whatever would come next.

“Abandoned….Support….Conman….” The vultures screeched.

“Well I think some people want the game to be labeled Abandoned...And other game developers use progress bars but they really aren’t progressing… And Mr. NR hasn’t proved he’s updating...And I guess we need the Abandoned tag so we can stop supporting him…Only we’re not supporting him monetarily on this site…So if a game gets marked as Abandoned here I should not support it…Even though I’m already not supporting it…So should I then NOT not support it….Which means I should support it even if its…Ouch!” Naughty voice bit my ear and pulled my hair forcing my head back hard and whispered.

“Nooooo…Really…That’s how he’s supported here?”

Self’s head was a blur. “Do you ever take a breath? Gawd. I know I shouldn’t ask, but what is Naughty voice telling you now?”

“Um…apparently thread members take turns….um….firmly but gently….um….cupping Mr. NR’s testicles while he works. Literally supporting him.

“No. No. NO. NO. NO! NO!! NO!!!

“Stop. Duck and Cover” A voice from the 1950’s recommended.

Self took a deep deep breath. “Listen. This is a pirate site. People can get games here without paying the developer. Some use it as sort of a free trial. If they like the game/developer they then go to other sites to monetarily support game/developer. I’m of a mind that if a game has been abandoned there’s no point in supporting it. If the developer is a conman, they aren’t going to post on their pay sites that it’s abandoned so there is some small value to having a site like this post that it’s been abandoned, BUT none of that is applicable here with LoML and Mr. NR. You KNOW it’s not and that’s not just because you're a fanboi. So get your head on straight and lay low until the release. You…” Self’s head was back to normal although his face was very red. “…Wait…Did I hear correctly that you don’t monetarily support LoML?”

“Oh. Shit.” Self caught that?

“Juicy Runny Down-your-leg Poo Poo” A voice obviously pinching its nose while trying to speak described.

“You took a Pinkie Oath with the Girls. I know you did.” Self was pointing a finger at himself…us…me.

Eyes averted downward again (do I even have feet?) “YessnnNoooummMaybe?”

No voices. Just blaring sirens.

Self kept pointing. Waiting. Pointing.

I stammered on “I mean…Um…well about that…I kinda did but kinda didn’t. Just what are the actual rules on Pinkie Swearing? Are they rules or more like guidelines? Because I didn’t actually use my pinkie to…”

Self reached out a grabbed me by the shirt collar. “Didn’t use your pinkie. It’s Pinkie Swearing. With Denise. With Macy. Dear Gawd man…what else could you have possibly used. Anatomically, what’s as small as… your…pink...ie…Oh...” His face was still red but an entirely different shade. “Those poor poor girls…Im so so so so sorry Mr. NR…”

Self turned, stopped and sobbed then continued to walk away. Myself was gone. Leaving just Me and I.

“Abandoned….Unsupported….Conboi?….”

Poetry. Pure, brilliant poetry.
 

nimbus21

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Just curious, where is the save file... saved? I've gotten a new computer and I want to get my save file but cant find it.
 

Count Morado

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Just curious, where is the save file... saved? I've gotten a new computer and I want to get my save file but cant find it.
In the game\saves subdirectory of the directory where you unzipped the Ren'Py to.

Also in %appdata%\RenPy\
 

nimbus21

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In the game\saves subdirectory of the directory where you unzipped the Ren'Py to.

Also in %appdata%\RenPy\
Ah, I never bother unzipping the archive, it runs just fine from it.

NM I found where it was, didn't know the damn appdata map was a hidden map. Thanks.
 
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UncleNanard

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The difference is that the dev of LomL is actually proactively reporting each and every week about his progress + provides TONS of information and explanations here in this thread (you would know it if you would read it).
That is why there was NEVER a doubt this freaking best game in the world was EVER worth an "in abandonment" Tag.

P.S. I Love Wife Trainer too and consider it as similar "high quality" game, but you need to consider all the context/circumstances.
I have no doubts about the developer of this game; it's one of my favorite games here, so please don't take offense. However, I believe that the 18-month rule is fair and should be applied to all developers.

There was indeed a developer who, for several months (or years?), teased his upcoming (fictional) update by using small zoomed-in portions of existing images.

How can we know that the developer isn't just filling in little squares on a PSD to show progress? Who knows if they are really working? So, I understand the 18-month rule without a game update despite being active on Patreon or the forum.

There have been so many developers who have done this in the past. I could mention names, but I think you know them as well as I do.

That's why for me it's fair.
 

Dragon59

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I have no doubts about the developer of this game; it's one of my favorite games here, so please don't take offense. However, I believe that the 18-month rule is fair and should be applied to all developers.

There was indeed a developer who, for several months (or years?), teased his upcoming (fictional) update by using small zoomed-in portions of existing images.

How can we know that the developer isn't just filling in little squares on a PSD to show progress? Who knows if they are really working? So, I understand the 18-month rule without a game update despite being active on Patreon or the forum.

There have been so many developers who have done this in the past. I could mention names, but I think you know them as well as I do.

That's why for me it's fair.
I have to differ.
I see it as a system trying to punish developers who put more work into their updates (such as having more content) because of a few bad apples.

At this point, I feel those scammers are irrelevant to what some of these developers are doing in trying to put out a quality product.

I said before, I feel a better way to approach this is to look at the developer's history. If they make a habit of longer development cycles, leave it alone.
 

jamdan

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The 18 month rule is fine. However, I think there should be a "common sense" clause. That a game that is clearly not abandoned, such as this one, doesn't get the tag regardless of the 18 month deadline.

This is on pace to be updated around the same time the tag will be automatically applied. If the tag is applied first (which will cause mayhem) and days later NR releases an update, this thread is going to turn into a shit show. "See, the abandoned tag works!" etc.

Save a lot of headaches and drama if mods would consider not using the tag blanketly.
 

Miðgarðsormr

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The 18 month rule while fair and unfair to some is completely irrelevant for us and this project.

The few bad apples will not change the fact that this isn't one them and also not change the fact that this will set a standard in characters who feel believable and how to set up a story and a plot in an organic and linear way.

Less is more and if i would have to judge every story on this board of every game the majority would fall below even the lowest of standards. They branch of in to many side stories that go nowhere. Characters who are dumb as a brick but a genius five seconds after. And a plot that is so absolutely ridiculous not even sci fi or fantasy writers could explain all the bullshit going on.

Yes the update takes long. Yes the game itself is taking long. But if you make something good you need time or it turns to shit. Same applies here.

So while the 18 months rule atm is in place i can assure you that after this game is finished together with a few others the standards will rise and attract similar minded devs and ppl as well as equally skillfull to create something.

But we need the standard to be established so the majority of consumers learn that the generic "fucky fucky" story is done fast and therefore shitty. But if they want something excellent they have to wait. And they have to be patient and supportive instead of demanding and destructive.

Till that comes the board can flag this thread with whatever they want. Cause we all know the moment this thing drops the thread will be flooded again. The download button will overheat and the bears will inspect our trebuchet inventory.

In a few years the shitty games will become less and less as the standards will rise and the quality as well. Few years ago we only had 2 devs you could call "halfway decent" and we increased those numbers significantly. We will get there.
 

Krynh

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There was indeed a developer who, for several months (or years?), teased his upcoming (fictional) update by using small zoomed-in portions of existing images.
ICSTOR. Every 6 months he'd do an update about how he was really working on the game and not on some tropical island mocking his patrons.

It's a long wait for the game, yes. But what's an even longer wait is for Book 5 in The Stormlight archive.
 
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Dragon59

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The 18 month rule while fair and unfair to some is completely irrelevant for us and this project.

The few bad apples will not change the fact that this isn't one them and also not change the fact that this will set a standard in characters who feel believable and how to set up a story and a plot in an organic and linear way.

Less is more and if i would have to judge every story on this board of every game the majority would fall below even the lowest of standards. They branch of in to many side stories that go nowhere. Characters who are dumb as a brick but a genius five seconds after. And a plot that is so absolutely ridiculous not even sci fi or fantasy writers could explain all the bullshit going on.

Yes the update takes long. Yes the game itself is taking long. But if you make something good you need time or it turns to shit. Same applies here.

So while the 18 months rule atm is in place i can assure you that after this game is finished together with a few others the standards will rise and attract similar minded devs and ppl as well as equally skillfull to create something.

But we need the standard to be established so the majority of consumers learn that the generic "fucky fucky" story is done fast and therefore shitty. But if they want something excellent they have to wait. And they have to be patient and supportive instead of demanding and destructive.

Till that comes the board can flag this thread with whatever they want. Cause we all know the moment this thing drops the thread will be flooded again. The download button will overheat and the bears will inspect our trebuchet inventory.

In a few years the shitty games will become less and less as the standards will rise and the quality as well. Few years ago we only had 2 devs you could call "halfway decent" and we increased those numbers significantly. We will get there.
At Naughty Road, we will serve no update before its time. -- Orson Wells

ICSTOR. Every 6 months he'd do an update about how he was really working on the game and not on some tropical island mocking his patrons.

It's a long wait for the game, yes. But what's an even longer wait is for Book 5 in The Stormlight archive.
What about the Song of Ice and Fire series?
It's maddening that a handful of bad actors have cast a cloud on so many hard working developers.
 

SlowDance

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As for me, I think Naughty Road can take all the time in the world he needs. He's never disappointed me. If F95 was on fire and I could only rescue one game, it would be LoML.
It's a quality site filled with free smut - there's an abundance of distractions during the wait.
 

Ali ibn Hassan

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god i want to FUCK the tiny goblina, cant wait until next update.
In this society of refinement and cultural high standard we, at least myself and, I imagine, a select few, never indulge in, no matter what, the simple act of fornication.
Tying the knot of hymen would be an accurate idiom, except on weekends, of course, when it's time to cruise for chicks to bang!
 

Southrim

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To the "what constitutes abandoned?" question, I want to make a note:
The vast, VAST majority of abandoned games are straightforward; the dev stopped communicating, stopped updating, to all appearances has stopped working on the project. Which is fine, they've got one life to live. The abandoned tag isn't an admonishment to their work so much as an acknowledgement there won't be more.

Then there's a tiny sliver who are confidence men, stringing along their dupes, who actually have more in common with the devs that do release content, but at a pace that's disproportionately slow but they take steps to obfuscate. These are the ones who provoke severe bad vibes and get all the attention, when they really should just be ignored outside of warning people off from them. And when some people see one bad actor, they start looking for more, often in the wrong places.


None of this has much to do with LomL, for the simple fact that the dev communicates on a regular basis with his community, and is open about how long it's taking.
 

Biscardone

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To the "what constitutes abandoned?" question, I want to make a note:
The vast, VAST majority of abandoned games are straightforward; the dev stopped communicating, stopped updating, to all appearances has stopped working on the project. Which is fine, they've got one life to live. The abandoned tag isn't an admonishment to their work so much as an acknowledgement there won't be more.

Then there's a tiny sliver who are confidence men, stringing along their dupes, who actually have more in common with the devs that do release content, but at a pace that's disproportionately slow but they take steps to obfuscate. These are the ones who provoke severe bad vibes and get all the attention, when they really should just be ignored outside of warning people off from them. And when some people see one bad actor, they start looking for more, often in the wrong places.


None of this has much to do with LomL, for the simple fact that the dev communicates on a regular basis with his community, and is open about how long it's taking.
Absolutely! That's why I say that users should exercise their own thought process after informing themselves: each game and author has its own identity.
As an example, I'd like to cite different games whose development process is commonly acknowledged as very slow, but they greatly differ, and it would be wrong to bunch them up together (as someone tends to do). I'll also add a couple nearing or having already reached the Abandoned state:

Light of my Life (you are here)
Elvensang
What a Legend!
Last Call
Dr Amana, Sexual Therapist

Evaluating why they differ is of course left as an exercise to the reader ;). But really, they are all fascinating games in their own right (LomL beats them all, of course!)
 
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