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- Thread starter naughtyroad
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- Oct 6, 2017
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ah yes, i remember last year september when i discovered this game and liked it
and then after waiting in december someone said itsprobably finished end of January or start feburary, and one guy replied and told them no, if you are lucky its done end of may and every laughed
good times
and then after waiting in december someone said itsprobably finished end of January or start feburary, and one guy replied and told them no, if you are lucky its done end of may and every laughed
good times
I am here for my weekly dose of bears, trebuchets, and people trying to understand non-standardized update chart. Alls well with the world now.
The graphic progress update chart remains now as they did in the past. It is, to a large extent, a representation of how many scenes there are, how complex a scene is for the author (more heads), but maybe not how long it will be for the player to experience, how many renders it has (sometimes), or which character is in the scene. Likewise, once all the scene bars are filled, there is a whole separate graph series on the bottom that will have to be filled out before release date. Although in the past, once that starts to happen we can usually expect the release within a month, but not exclusively. This second progress bar covers the Q&A process before release. To sum it up with a tortured analogy, it remains, in many ways, like points in the "game show" Who's Line is it Anyway? It is nice to have, but she's a coming when she's a coming and the progress chart does not get it here a day sooner.
The graphic progress update chart remains now as they did in the past. It is, to a large extent, a representation of how many scenes there are, how complex a scene is for the author (more heads), but maybe not how long it will be for the player to experience, how many renders it has (sometimes), or which character is in the scene. Likewise, once all the scene bars are filled, there is a whole separate graph series on the bottom that will have to be filled out before release date. Although in the past, once that starts to happen we can usually expect the release within a month, but not exclusively. This second progress bar covers the Q&A process before release. To sum it up with a tortured analogy, it remains, in many ways, like points in the "game show" Who's Line is it Anyway? It is nice to have, but she's a coming when she's a coming and the progress chart does not get it here a day sooner.
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nearly correct:
Except the fact that the portraits DON'T show what characters are featured in that scene - the portraits are random.
(see description on the chart on top left corner.)
Basically the chart is made to be self-explaining - if only people would start to read XD)
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How much time is spent on any given "head" is variable, we don't know which take longer than others. The Dev noted their progress over the past week in descriptive form:
I may be rehashing some of the things others already commented on so if so, please forgive.
Uninitialized variables are hardly a problem btw for ren'py, since the good design pattern is to declare all ingame variables with a default statement. The trick is, getting an expected value.
Hmm, not entirely. First of all, it'd require you to start up a game to have a gamestate, secondly, jumping to a label would replay the scene with a gamestate that for your current game, not for when that scene was played, or will be played even. Probably wonkyness will ensue.
Uninitialized variables are hardly a problem btw for ren'py, since the good design pattern is to declare all ingame variables with a default statement. The trick is, getting an expected value.
Cheers, that's exactly it. You will need to replay the scene though to get it to create the save in the first place. In case anyone wonders: I'm also planning to leave the old method (setting flags in the persistent store and having the scripted out non-dialog scene) as a fallback for if you don't want to go back and replay but still want access to what's unlocked, so it should be a seamless transition without loss of functionality for veteran players.I'm not really sure what that means, but it sounds big :O Like, as you play the game, it will save at certain predefined points which will be utilized by replay gallery or something? I will admit that I wanted to replay that glorious Denise booty scene with dialogue ofc (because it's written so well and it really makes every scene for me, just not the same without it), but unfortunately discovered that I hadn't made a permanent save before that scene. Given the depth and complexity of your game, as much as I love it, kinda killed the mood knowing I had to start a new game again to get to it
My original thinking was mostly about of finding a way to get a least effort implementation in, because I do consider it a non-essential feature too. But after a bunch of chapters and more and more entries, even this low effort implementation is getting to be a drag; stripping a 5k+ lines scene scripts of their dialog, and then stripping it to get to a point where it shows enough variation but not have the player click through a hundred emote changes as the girls mime out the entirety of their lines, then getting the zoom and pan and music and other effects tweaked to get something of a nice flow to it, that is a tedious and much too time consuming job (about 8-12 hours each recent release). So I really have my hopes pinned on the save game thing.
Exactly my thinking, except I won't even bother to create an exit flag either. I figure players can just continue on if the mood strikes them.
Hahaha! Thanks, I needed a good laugh!
Could even rebrand the new gallery as "Flashback™" and play a stock time travel clip every time you load up one of them... and then as it would be time travel themed then there definitely should be, slightly goofy, alternative ways some of the scenes play out due to time space distortions that keep stacking due to creating new flashback saves by playing onwards from a flashback to the next one. I already hate it so much.Exactly my thinking, except I won't even bother to create an exit flag either. I figure players can just continue on if the mood strikes them.
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I would think most people would create a save just before a certain scene is about to take place, rendering any kind of gallery redundant. Some games even have a prompt for "save now" but I don't think it's even necessary to do that much.My original thinking was mostly about of finding a way to get a least effort implementation in, because I do consider it a non-essential feature too.
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So I really have my hopes pinned on the save game thing.
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This game has a lot of scenes. Did a replay about a month ago and did just that. By the end of the current release I was almost out of saves.
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I don't understand. As far as I know saves are reasonably unlimited like with most Ren'py games. It's just iterating numbers of separate save files in the folder. How did you perceive that you were running out of saves?
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There is no limit to saves (other than the amount of storage) unless a game artifically limits the number of pages you can make.
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I was mistaken. I thought I only had the 9 pages of saves to work with but you're correct.
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I remember when I was caught by that perception as well.
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I'm gonna be honest guys & girls I want the mc to lick & eat out Macy & Denises's Buttholes
Oh and also for them to pee on him.
Anyone else want to see that?
Disclaimer - Don't try and pee on me in real life I would be very salty.
Oh and also for them to pee on him.
Anyone else want to see that?
Disclaimer - Don't try and pee on me in real life I would be very salty.