Naxos

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"I really hate the idea that anything could ever be made that is not tailored specifically for me, personally, free of charge. Therefore, this thing must not be allowed to exists."
Dang it NR I told you that in confidence.

Now please give me my barbies that are tailored to what I want!

"There's no sex, just tease!" - translates to "I cannot be trusted with choices, because I just turned down every option to interact with anyone in the game except the slow burn ones, and now I don't have anyone to interact with in the game except the slow burn ones."
Would be feeling called out now, but hey I chose to reject those other ones so I could focus on the vaguely related in patreon friendly somewhat roomate girls. I regret nothing!
 

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And of course I love some of the deeper analyses, like Miðgarðsormr 's daughters' view on the office ladies, which completely blindsided me. That really helps me to figure out how some parts of the story are received, and understand how to be a better storyteller.
I think I missed this. I knew they played the game, but I don't recall their insight.
 

Dragon59

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Interesting points about critique and feedback. Tbh, a ton has changed about how I perceive feedback and critique about LomL. When I first started out still wet behind the ears, I took nearly everything really seriously, trying to find the nugget of wisdom wherever I could. But let's be honest about it, it doesn't take long to figure out 90% or so of "feedback" seems to consist of the same three or four hackneyed old varieties, e.g.:

"Grls uuugly" - translates to "I imprinted on Barbie dolls and want everything to have Barbie dolls." That is, when it doesn't translate to "Foreign looking people are icky and smelly."
I think it was their uncommon (for this medium) looks that first got me to look at the game. Honestly, it was that reaction from commenters that got me to want to play and support the game.
"Writing boooring" - of course, that's a valid opinion to have, but I found that most of the times, this translates to "I started skipping though content because my dick demands tits, now I missed so much of it nothing anyone says in the game makes sense anymore, and I blame the author for that."
I love that you, like a handful of other storytellers I've come to look to, have been able to carve out a dedicated base despite not appealing to the "unwashed masses." The bunch of you gave me the inspiration to try my own hand at telling my stories. Like you, there will be much for them to complain about, but I have come to trust that there are enough of us who appreciate actual storytelling.
 

Miðgarðsormr

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I think I missed this. I knew they played the game, but I don't recall their insight.
Couldn't find it myself but what are your kids for if not to help you with stuff you are to old for already :ROFLMAO:

Sorry about your dad as well. Know the feeling and it just is horrific to go through.
For the hot and heat part. I just had to go swimming with my daughters and if there ever was a time to quote danny glover it was today. "I AM TO OLD FOR THIS SHIT" my body hurts in places i didn't even know i had...

But on the other side my youngest told me something very interesting other than she wants to write as well. Handed me her phone and showed me some stuff i won't even pretend to understand in this day and age but at the end of the conversation she asked something i think is perfectly represented in the game.

Since her mom and i are no longer together she asked about moving on and how it feels like betrayal even if it isn't. How do you as a child try to not judge the new partner of your parents in a negative way the moment you meet them? Is it something you do naturally or is it that you are jealous of some sort cause you think that new someone will take your parents away?

I explained.
Same goes for when your daughters have a boyfriend or a husband. You fucking hate that dude. He could be the president, the scientist who cured cancer or even the guy who found out how we all can be immortal. You just hate the dude for similar reasons. And no that feeling never goes away. You will hate that guy for as long as you live and beyond.

So we discussed this for some time and at the end all my daughters sat there and talked about it. Obviously different opinions on the topic but the main consens we established was that literally everybodies first reaction is jealousy out of fear for taking someone you love away from you.

Only way to counter all that hate and jealousy is by spreading love around the family and erase the notion that someone could take someone you love away from you.

I brought up this game as they all played it.

They think the main goal should be Brooke as new step mom and all of them living a healthy, loving 4 way relationship like old mormons did once upon a time.

On the other hand they hate the office ladies because they do not represent love but jealousy. They want something from the MC they seem to not have or miss in their relationships and not concerning the damage they could inflict once this goes out. Literally the worst case scenario if shit goes sideways and you destroy maybe not just your own family but 3 families in the process.

Brooke on the other hand did nothing immoral in that regard other than flirting or banging a man with no strings attached. So to them Brooke is the lesser evil that could become a gift of some sort for the family as a step mom.

The fascinating part however was them talking about lot and his daughters. They explained you could argue that before Lot found a new wife that could be even worse than their mom in terms of listening to god they took it upon their own duty to ensure giving birth to a new generation devoted to god instead of worse case scenario and they get another women like mom who won't listen to shit.

OR that purely out of jealousy to see their father with another women other than their mom they took it as their duty to ensure his manly needs are satisfied and giving him more healthy children he could teach about the devotion to god while also ensuring the love he has for them would never stop.

So 3 main reasons for them doing what they did. Devotion to god, jealousy and love.

You could start arguing the same about the story of the game. Macy for sure is jealous towards brooke and denise acting purely out of love for her family.

Like in the story of lot and his daughters you have 2 daughters who aside from the bible story and the devotion to god are acting out on similar reasons as they did. Love for one daughter as her driving motivation and one out of jealousy not wanting to see the MC with another women than herself out of fear she could lose him forever.


Edit: Sorry for the long post but i'm half beat to death here and had to get this out of my system before i forget half of it.:ROFLMAO:
 

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To be honest...to me, from my perspective. A daughter having big nips is a huge turn-on. Having too much interactive stuff distracts from the attention I need to fap away freely.
 

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I think it was their uncommon (for this medium) looks that first got me to look at the game. Honestly, it was that reaction from commenters that got me to want to play and support the game.

I love that you, like a handful of other storytellers I've come to look to, have been able to carve out a dedicated base despite not appealing to the "unwashed masses." The bunch of you gave me the inspiration to try my own hand at telling my stories. Like you, there will be much for them to complain about, but I have come to trust that there are enough of us who appreciate actual storytelling.
Awesome man, from the little I know of you from this forum I'm sure it'll be great. I still haven't gotten back into my own writing. I feel like I look at the tons of writing I've already done and get hung up too much on why I stopped in the first place, lol. I'm still not giving up though.
To be honest...to me, from my perspective. A daughter having big nips is a huge turn-on. Having too much interactive stuff distracts from the attention I need to fap away freely.
Honestly the only reason I like this medium is the level of immersion it provides. I don't self-insert like a lot of people do, but I've always found books extremely immersive as a medium and the combination of visual and lexical stimuli in VNs works for me so I'm glad the story is so well put together, so even though there isn't a constant flow of erotic content (although I'd argue there's plenty if you fully explore the side character routes) the fact that the surrounding context is so carefully delineated makes the moments we're all here for all the more engaging, so people who like big nipples/areola like you and me can probably appreciate those bits all the more when they arrive.
 
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Dragon59

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Awesome man, from the little I know of you from this forum I'm sure it'll be great. I still haven't gotten back into my own writing. I feel like I look at the tons of writing I've already done and get hung up too much on why I stopped in the first place, lol. I'm still not giving up though.
Thanks and good fortune to you! My brain is already starting to formulate other stories. One of them is actually very old, a fan story I was writing as part of a Star Trek club I was in before TNG.
Honestly the only reason I like this medium is the level of immersion it provides. I don't self-insert like a lot of people do, but I've always found books extremely immersive as a medium and the combination of visual and lexical stimuli in VNs works for me so I'm glad the story is so well put together, so even though there isn't a constant flow of erotic content (although I'd argue there's plenty if you fully explore the side character routes) the fact that the surrounding context is so carefully delineated makes the moments we're all here for all the more engaging, so people who like big nipples/areola like you and me can probably appreciate those bits all the more when they arrive.
I grew up reading many, many books, so story matters to me. I want a developer with a story to tell, not one who wants to be the Michael Bay of sex scenes.
 
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Interesting points about critique and feedback. Tbh, a ton has changed about how I perceive feedback and critique about LomL. When I first started out still wet behind the ears, I took nearly everything really seriously, trying to find the nugget of wisdom wherever I could. But let's be honest about it, it doesn't take long to figure out 90% or so of "feedback" seems to consist of the same three or four hackneyed old varieties, e.g.:

"Grls uuugly" - translates to "I imprinted on Barbie dolls and want everything to have Barbie dolls." That is, when it doesn't translate to "Foreign looking people are icky and smelly."

"Writing boooring"
- of course, that's a valid opinion to have, but I found that most of the times, this translates to "I started skipping though content because my dick demands tits, now I missed so much of it nothing anyone says in the game makes sense anymore, and I blame the author for that."

"No one likes [fetish X] so this game suuucks!"
- translates to "I really hate the idea that anything could ever be made that is not tailored specifically for me, personally, free of charge. Therefore, this thing must not be allowed to exists."

"There's no sex, just tease!"
- translates to "I cannot be trusted with choices, because I just turned down every option to interact with anyone in the game except the slow burn ones, and now I don't have anyone to interact with in the game except the slow burn ones."

They're void of value, and just get a little headshake before moving on, or a tap on the nose when they're being really obnoxious about it.

There is interesting feedback out there though, like one where a player was really annoyed by some of the one-choice menu's that are in there, which are there on purpose, for dramatic and pacing reasons, but strike some as unneeded and annoying. That prompted me to add a keyboard biding so you don't have to take your free hand from the keyboard to click the mouse :sneaky:, which I feel is a really neat, small improvement.
And of course I love some of the deeper analyses, like Miðgarðsormr 's daughters' view on the office ladies, which completely blindsided me. That really helps me to figure out how some parts of the story are received, and understand how to be a better storyteller.
Personally, as a fan of a ton of sex scenes, I didn't find it hard at all to enjoy your game. Seriously, I'm completely guilty of loving tons of sex in the games I typically enjoy.....and while I do wish there were more sex scenes, especially some repeatable events, I absolutely love the game you've created as it is. Its one of the few slow burnish style games I'd give a perfect 10. Its why I've kept my mouth shut up till now :censored: and am waiting patiently for the next release. Your writing and story have overridden my base needs, at least as far as LOML is concerned. I'm only saying this now not as some critique, but because I hope you don't start hating my sex fiend crew based on the more vocal percentage of us.........
 

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Thanks and good fortune to you! My brain is already starting to formulate other stories. One of them is actually very old, a fan story I was writing as part of a Star Trek club I was in before TNG.

I grew up reading many, many books, so story matters to me. I want a developer with a story to tell, not one who wants to be the Michael Bay of sex scenes.
Nothing wrong with some gratuitous indulgence every once in a while. I'm not sure if this is legal or not but I actually like all the Transformers movies >.>. But yea I too appreciate good storytelling and wish there was more of it.
 
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God damn we are getting more and more bears. Wtf happend? Did we put up a sign somewhere to lure them here or did someone piss in their honey pot and shat in their cave for them to come here one after another?
 
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