Kulman

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Oh, yeez, I'm really sorry if I came across as condescending when I engaged you in polite debate after you came on thread and called me "condescending", "insecure" and "embarrassing" for, what we established during that exchange that saw some of the best backpaddling I ever saw, reasons entirely based on a combination of not actually reading that dialog and/or goofing around, whichever suits your argument of the moment best.

But I'm really pleased you found some validation in the fact that what you "felt" during that bit of dialog you didn't read and/or were fooling around with is matched by my replies to you, and based on overwhelming evidence of your gut feeling, which clearly trumps whatever you wrote in your waffling replies, I must now concede it was I that was condescending, insecure, and embarrassing all along. I think I speak for all of us when I say, thank you for setting that record straight.
Eh the only thing I take back is insecure, that one was uncalled for. But the rest stands. And I did read everything you wrote, but if I adressed everything you wrote that I disagree with, we would be here for a lot longer and I know that would lead nowhere. The whole intro and what you wrote here says you think you know better than the player, that your intended way of playing the game is superior and then forcing the player to agree to your "terms of conduct" to be let through. Thats both condescending and patronizing. Maybe you didnt mean it that way, I dont see into your head, but its what it comes across as.

And I am not the only one who sees the intro that way, but considering the shitshow this conversation has become, I dont blame others for not wanting to chime in anymore.
 

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someone should probably remove the off topic clutter. if i were dev id ask a mod to do so, not doing themselves any favors leaving all that nonsense out.
 

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someone should probably remove the off topic clutter. if i were dev id ask a mod to do so, not doing themselves any favors leaving all that nonsense out.
Nah, I'd just as soon it stayed up. Even though my counterpart claims moral victory on accounts of feeling he was actually right in spite of being trounced, and asserted he could have countered all the arguments but he didn't feel like it, it's clear to everyone that read through the responses that that he was talking out of his ###.
Keeping it up gives me something to refer back to when the next thin-skinned illiterate comes by that gets really upset about what they assumed the message was but didn't actually bother to properly read, and that guy will come by, sooner rather than later.
 

Kulman

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Nah, I'd just as soon it stayed up. Even though my counterpart claims moral victory on accounts of feeling he was actually right in spite of being trounced, and asserted he could have countered all the arguments but he didn't feel like it, it's clear to everyone that read through the responses that that he was talking out of his ###.
Keeping it up gives me something to refer back to when the next thin-skinned illiterate comes by that gets really upset about what they assumed the message was but didn't actually bother to properly read, and that guy will come by, sooner rather than later.
Push people enough and they show their true colors. Thanks man. But go on, continue crowning and glazing yourself.

And the fact you dismiss written word having a "vibe" with it is pretty damning for you as a supposed writer.
 
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Push people enough and they show their true colors. Thanks man. But go on, continue crowning and glazing yourself.

And the fact you dismiss written word having a "vibe" with it is pretty damning for you as a supposed writer.
Meh, I think it just shows you didn't FAPP enough... or couldn't finish so you're being Mr. Grumpy gills.

It's probably a good thing you didn't make it past the first question in game though, it takes a while to get to the FAPPing.
 

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yeah, i didnt agree with his initial argument, but found your need to keep on arguing started to prove his point on you being petty. but maybe others wont see it so. ive stood on dumber mountains so should be fine.
Oh well, maybe you're right. It's just, it's always the same effing thing, and every single time you engage them and talk about what got them so upset, it always turns into this dissembling head canon gripe that has nothing to do with what the game actually said, and they never, ever admit to being caught out. It really wears on you, that endless line of Karens whinging on about what an absolute wretch of a person you are for a thing that only happened in their head. It's no wonder a lot of devs I know avoid the Zone like the plague. Meh, time to put this thing to bed.
 

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Oh well, maybe you're right. It's just, it's always the same effing thing, and every single time you engage them and talk about what got them so upset, it always turns into this dissembling head canon gripe that has nothing to do with what the game actually said, and they never, ever admit to being caught out. It really wears on you, that endless line of Karens whinging on about what an absolute wretch of a person you are for a thing that only happened in their head. It's no wonder a lot of devs I know avoid the Zone like the plague. Meh, time to put this thing to bed.
You keep complaining about my head canon, but you keep retelling everything I say in a complete hyperbole as well. But its fine if you do it of course. You strawmanned pretty much every one of my arguments, which is why I said its pointless to adress every complaint with you I had, because I wanted to put this now pointless argument down. But you keep coming back to have the last word and have a little kick at me while you are at it. Well I can do the same thing.

You arent a "complete wretch", but you definitely are a bit of a dick, though you are trying your best to hide it. Mask is slipping though.
 
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I will never understand why some people feel the need to complain about a game they don't like. Devs do with their games whatever they feel like, that's why it's their game. If I don't like it, I ignore it, easy as that. Nothing hurts devs more than not getting any attention.

Edit: It's been a while since we last talked about bears and trebuchets?
 
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Oh well, maybe you're right. It's just, it's always the same effing thing, and every single time you engage them and talk about what got them so upset, it always turns into this dissembling head canon gripe that has nothing to do with what the game actually said, and they never, ever admit to being caught out. It really wears on you, that endless line of Karens whinging on about what an absolute wretch of a person you are for a thing that only happened in their head. It's no wonder a lot of devs I know avoid the Zone like the plague. Meh, time to put this thing to bed.
Naughty just saw your patreon post and it got me incredibly sad. I can't imagine how it must be for you. But I hope you find peace within and hope that things turn out for the better one way or another.
 

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From me to you: My thoughts and heart goes out to you and while I know it is difficult to think about yourself - one of the best things you can do it make sure you practice self-care - for yourself and to be present in the now for your loved ones.
 

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Naughty just saw your patreon post and it got me incredibly sad. I can't imagine how it must be for you. But I hope you find peace within and hope that things turn out for the better one way or another.
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From me to you: My thoughts and heart goes out to you and while I know it is difficult to think about yourself - one of the best things you can do it make sure you practice self-care - for yourself and to be present in the now for your loved ones.
Cheers, and thanks. Things are in a much more calmer place than they were a few weeks ago when I wrote that, as we finally seem to be homing in on what's ailing the missus, and while there was never any saving my mother, she went peacefully and on her own terms and that is as good a way as any of us could hope to go when we shuffle off this mortal coil I guess.
 
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Cheers, and thanks. Things are in a much more calmer place than they were a few weeks ago when I wrote that, as we finally seem to be homing in on what's ailing the missus, and while there was never any saving my mother, she went peacefully and on her own terms and that is as good a way as any of us could hope to go when we shuffle off this mortal coil I guess.
you don't know how warm it made me feel when I read that... Loml made me romanticise the shit out of life when I was going through depression and things looked so much brighter wherever i turned after it. i suggested loml to my best friend and that's how our office romance started and now she is my partner. Whenever I think of how much my life has turned it was only to the influence of liking the dynamic of MC and brook and wanting one in real life that made me to come out of my shell. Now we game together, have movie nights and recommend visual novels to each other and have had bathroom sex in the office lmao. To think all of it came from your creation, i owe it to you. Nothing but gratitude for you my friend. And I wish all the luck in the world for the missus.
 

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...is as good a way as any of us could hope...
I've been telling myself the exact same thing for 10 years since my own ma decided against aggressive chemo when a previously benign growth metastasized rapidly through her lungs, heart and more. It was a peaceful, quiet end with a large family gathered around her. There is comfort in that, and I hope it finds you as well.

Your story, although mischievous, holds a tale of a broken family finding a way to healing - in my book that means a lot more than your average nut to a saucy VN. Ignore the haters and tell your story the way you want, because the sincerity of it carries into what some of us experience.
 

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This is undoubtedly one of the best games of all time. Thanks dev or devteam for creating it. ;) I know somebody in real life that actually lived a life much like this before he changed his ways. In addition, he is a good father. ~IK

(Sidenote: An update on your status would be nice, NR. -IK)
 

Gt8588

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Well I wasnt debating it, but if someone calls me a pussy, I reply. And you do come across as condescending. All of your replies kinda were. Kind of patronizing tone that just does not sit right with me. I know I was right when I felt the same thing from that intro.

Anyway, I am ready to quit this pointless debate. But if someone wants to come around and start replying to me again and call me names, I will reply right back.
Dude just quit while you are behind.
 

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This week in some sentences: wrapped up the visuals for the next scene, and they are ready to be rendered out. I spent a little bit more time than I should have putting together new outfits, but I am happy to say the missus was feeling well enough to help me out with that as she usually does. Next up is wrapping up those in progress scenes and then get cracking with the next segment, which includes a fair bit of scene building.

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smallgary

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Hi yer, I felt that i just had to drop a line to say that this has to be one of my most favourite games at the present moment.I agree that there is no need for a walkthru, all you have to do is read and not skip which i'm affraid to say that i am guilty of on other games,otherwise you will miss out on some of the funniest dialogue that i have read in a long time i.e. Sierra makes me cry with laughter.Plus try not to be too much of a good guy otherwise you'll miss out on some of that laughter,just enjoy the game for what it is which is a very funny great piece of work.Thank you so much for sharing.
 
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