Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[IvoryOwl]

But sexual slavery, rape, and body horror (forcibly transforming someone is exactly that) is a-okay! I get a feeling the blacklist is based on what Inno personally finds a turn-off rather than on any kind of ethical foundation.

Doesn't really matter what the reason is, she's the developer so she gets the ultimate say on what is and isn't allowed. The rules on Discord make it very clear that anyone asking for or discussing these topics can get kicked, if not downright banned. So if you go there, keep that in mind.

I know nobody can physically stop modders and users from making and downloading this kind of content on the side-lines, just don't expect the official channels to offer you any kind of help or support. Either ask the community /whoever you got it from or deal with it yourself. ¯\_(' ')_/¯

 

[PariahLies]

Fisting for any orifice has long been one of the things on my wishlist for this game.

Do prehensile dicks do anything special yet?

 

[SordidDreams]

she's the developer so she gets the ultimate say on what is and isn't allowed

Of course. And I'm some rando on the internet, so I get to comment on it.

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

Doesn't really matter what the reason is, she's the developer so she gets the ultimate say on what is and isn't allowed. The rules on Discord make it very clear that anyone asking for or discussing these topics can get kicked, if not downright banned. So if you go there, keep that in mind.

I know nobody can physically stop modders and users from making and downloading this kind of content on the side-lines, just don't expect the official channels to offer you any kind of help or support. Either ask the community /whoever you got it from or deal with it yourself. ¯\_(' ')_/¯

Kinda me just mentioning a bit of a bias for older people, but you'll probably get kicked if you're a newbie. If you have seniority, like I do, they tend to tolerate you more, like me trolling everyone with lolis and most of the mods just kinda give me a disapproving stare, or just post emotes at me. A bit bias but, what can you do.

 

[DownTheDrain]

But sexual slavery, rape, and body horror (forcibly transforming someone is exactly that) is a-okay! I get a feeling the blacklist is based on what Inno personally finds a turn-off rather than on any kind of ethical foundation.

The underage thing is probably for legal reasons, the rest seems like personal taste.
Which is perfectly fine in my opinion, it's her game so she has to be somewhat comfortable with writing content. If I commission art there's usually a list of fetishes the artist won't touch as well.

 

[Megumin.]

I don't care about the underage stuff, I just want race modding so that I can play as a shortstack goblin girl.

She said no fantasy race like elves and goblins are going to be added so I'm depending on mods.

 

[drchainchair2]

That's because Inno hasn't released any other modding templates besides clothing/weapons/tattoos, which modders are supposed to use to make their life easier. Next up should be races/morphs but she has yet to clean up / refactor the code for it. If you want to make, say, a race mod at the moment, you are completely on your own with the spaghetti code.

If you make your own fork from github it isn't that hard to maintain. I've had minimal conflicts on most update merges, only 2 or 3 files to go through on each update unless Inno does something stupid like rename a class for no reason.

While the code is definitely a bit unwieldy, it isn't that hard to work with as long as you can find pieces that do what you want then stick them together. I did spend a good afternoon trying to debug an issue wherein my item would lose the new attribute I added to it and it turned out that when an item is unequipped during sex it's actually deleted and a copy is made instead. That was a really annoying one to figure out because it made no sense to do it that way.

I actually posted my mod in this thread a ways back (on the account I forgot the password to, you have one guess as to the account name) that added a few new gameplay features.

I don't care about the underage stuff, I just want race modding so that I can play as a shortstack goblin girl.

She said no fantasy race like elves and goblins are going to be added so I'm depending on mods.

I don't think adding a new race would be that difficult if you just copy it from an existing one then make the necessary changes. Though this does require you to be able to build from source and know Java, which is a bit more complicated than a simple xml file you can drop into the game folder.

 

[NoStepOnSnek]

I don't think adding a new race would be that difficult if you just copy it from an existing one then make the necessary changes. Though this does require you to be able to build from source and know Java, which is a bit more complicated than a simple xml file you can drop into the game folder.

It's not all that difficult but crazy tedious. The current system is kinda sideways to what it ought to be for easy race adding (which is why race rework is such a big deal) and requires you to touch like 60 classes.

 

[drchainchair2]

It's not all that difficult but crazy tedious. The current system is kinda sideways to what it ought to be for easy race adding (which is why race rework is such a big deal) and requires you to touch like 60 classes.

I just had a look at it because I never really cared to examine races much before and... why the fuck is a race just not a subclass from AbstractRace in it's own file. Apparently game.characters.race is less than half of the picture, the bulk of it is in game.characters.body.types.

 

[DownTheDrain]

That's kinda odd.
You'd think that modifying races is the one thing you'd want to make easily accessible in a furry game with lots of transformation options and a bunch of species nobody in their right mind would try to fuck.

 

[Chingonerio]

I just had a look at it because I never really cared to examine races much before and... why the fuck is a race just not a subclass from AbstractRace in it's own file. Apparently game.characters.race is less than half of the picture, the bulk of it is in game.characters.body.types.

Blind guess here, but it might be because there are multiple parts that are/were shared between some of the races, and so as to avoid declaring duplicates, the bulk was put somewhere else. That all said, it's probably going to change- it has before, if you wade through the commits long enough to check.

Modular design from the ground up is hard unless you strictly adhere to a scope and never expand it.

 

[Engelstein]

So I could have sworn that in earlier versions, once you became a demon you could add any other species bits onto you. I was trying to make my guy a minotaur and I haven't got a single option for any species. Was that removed?

 

[Fuzzcat]

I don't care about the underage stuff, I just want race modding so that I can play as a shortstack goblin girl.

She said no fantasy race like elves and goblins are going to be added so I'm depending on mods.

Same here.
She said "no fantasy races" long time ago, tho. Might be willing to change his/her mind on the next maps (and there's a LOT of map. I wasn't aware there's actually a world map already).

In any case, she tends to listen (or she used to, at the beginning, when there were only a bunch of us just babbling ideas), and might be convinced to some alternatives (for example, I was thinking she could add different shades of green/blueish colors for skins, fangs/tusks, and pointed ears, as separate/independant body modifications. So, she doesn't needs to actually include the races in the game, but if a player wants to "build" and orc/goblin/elf, it can be done).

 

[IvoryOwl]

Same here.
She said "no fantasy races" long time ago, tho. Might be willing to change his/her mind on the next maps (and there's a LOT of map. I wasn't aware there's actually a world map already).

In any case, she tends to listen (or she used to, at the beginning, when there were only a bunch of us just babbling ideas), and might be convinced to some alternatives (for example, I was thinking she could add different shades of green/blueish colors for skins, fangs/tusks, and pointed ears, as separate/independant body modifications. So, she doesn't needs to actually include the races in the game, but if a player wants to "build" and orc/goblin/elf, it can be done).

Problem is, you do that and then you're going to have a bunch of people asking to be recognized as X race, with racial bonuses and all that. Besides, if you turn your human green, with tusks and high muscle definition (as an example), would you still be considered a human at that point or just some weird, unidentified morph simply because Inno doesn't want to add them to the game? At that point the game may just say you're a lesser boar or elephant morph... meaning you'd have to use your imagination to do the rest.

I think it would make more sense for people to wait for the race/morph framework. Someone is definitely going to add all of those races with proper support and racial bonuses, which is better than a pretend, half-baked version.

 

[Chingonerio]

I'd be lazy and just make a catch-all "Custom" racial bonus, then capture a string (like you would a character name) for the name the player gives their current race, but the writing would have to take an obvious blow since there'd be no framework for whether or not the race name in question works as an adjective the same way it might as a noun (i.e.- the difference between fox and vulpine, wolf and lycan, etc.). Like, maybe you could write custom stuff where you just add a "-y" or "-ish" at the end of the race name? Eh, again, this'd be the lazy route.

The racial feat could be negative, even, if I want to discourage people from making their own thing. Something like "you deal less Lust Damage because people are too distracted by the fact that they've never seen anything like you before" or some such.

 

[NoStepOnSnek]

So I could have sworn that in earlier versions, once you became a demon you could add any other species bits onto you. I was trying to make my guy a minotaur and I haven't got a single option for any species. Was that removed?

Maybe way back with the old potion, but not since you can be officially turned and gameplay wise not until we smack the next Lilin ... you can always use the debug menu tho.

 

[PariahLies]

Wish there was a better way to modify cum or milk storage than slapping on a ring of flooding or drought(own enchanted creations) and then sleeping away a couple of days/weeks other than save editing.

 

[NoStepOnSnek]

Wish there was a better way to modify cum or milk storage than slapping on a ring of flooding or drought(own enchanted creations) and then sleeping away a couple of days/weeks other than save editing.

Make a potion to do it instantly (and very cheaply if you have the water school perk)? Become a slime, set as desired and unslime?

 

[IvoryOwl]

Wish there was a better way to modify cum or milk storage than slapping on a ring of flooding or drought(own enchanted creations) and then sleeping away a couple of days/weeks other than save editing.

Like Snek said, why don't you just use your race's TF item and modify milk/cum regeneration and capacity for the desired effect? Its easier and much faster than using jinxed items and waiting several in-game days.

 

[pesinafe]

Question: is there a way to remove prostitutes from the first floor of the brothel? Been toying with the idea of a "friendly" run for some time now. With muggers, I can beat them once, befriend them, help them find a job and apartment, then say goodbye to them forever. With prostitutes, I can send them to the brothel. But once it's been filled up... seems like your only two options is to leave them on the tile or attack them and send them packing. Am I missing something..?