NTR and voyerism are one a part of it, yes, in a variety of forms. You could also have sex with them anywhere, including public places, which is another thing a lot of people fantasize about. You could use them for group sex. Now that it's just you, the variety of sexual encounters and situations is greatly diminished.
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Good. Now there's hope for sex ever having anything unique to it and having actual consequences and depth.
I don't think those are mutually exclusive goals. As far as I know, the justification was that writing and coding new unique encounters with companions in mind was taking too long. Why not disable companions for those new unique encounters only? And leave the existing system for generic random encounters with companion support in place?
I don't exactly understand why in a sandbox game that's a good thing... (The reduced variety, not the lack of depth, which tbh I never expected from this game in the first place, while I did expect variety)
In a perfect world in which LT has a perfect dev, maybe, but that's not the case. They're not mutually exclusive, but one makes the other harder to come by significantly, you know it. Chances are even now we're getting shallow mechanics and meaningless tfs, but those chances are MUCH smaller now that adding 1 scene requires much less variables to keep track of.
That's exactly what I like in my RPGs as well, meaningless choices, irrelevant variety and no depth.
Don't get me wrong, though, I'd love to have a good companion system that takes background, personality, fetishes and tfs into account to create more unique companion with whom you can travel around and practice mischief, but that's not gonna happen at all. Not with Innoxia working alone or the way she has been working for as long as I keep up with LT. Cutting content like this (no depth, requires a lot of work, small gains for the time being) is a good thing. I'm pretty sure you're not the only ones that wanted to stay in the game, I'm sure a bunch of her supporters disliked the decision just as much as you did, and Innoxia probably knew they would. Cutting that content shows that developing the main game further is more important to the Dev than pleasing these supporters and adding another 3 lines for when your character has the voyeur fetish and is watching a snow lion fuck a hyena they love in the Dominion canals, which would keep the money flowing in with very little effort.
Look, I haven't really been following the game all that much since I lost interest in it quite a ways back, so generally my understanding of the game's general state of health is based almost entirely on hearsay. I have at times skimmed through comments on some updates over the last couple years or so, played a mod of it a few times here and there, so I may have the wrong idea since there seems to be conflicting attitudes from others I've had conversations with about it.
But I think that misses the point, or at least mine (which admittedly I didn't really make clear). Loosing the companion system, while unfortunate, isn't really the reason that news struck me the way it did. A lot of the complaints I've heard is of Innoxia's hilariously consistent delays, coupled with the sheer volume of bland yet bug-riddled content, and now content is being axed, all the while without hiring help which has been suggested since as far back as when I last played in fact. If any of that is true, then I kind of feel like this is not really great news. Maybe I'm wrong, but we'll see I guess. Not hating on the dev or anything, but if they haven't reach out yet for help at all and still haven't been able to hit a target release date even once, then I'd at least be a little concerned. Short-term, removing the companion system might be a smart move, it's just that that's hardly the biggest or most long-term of critiques that seem to be routinely brought up. Games like this being done solo like that are a real sketchy shot in the dark anyways. Not being able or willing to recognize the need to tackle something this big in bigger numbers than one is one of the reasons some seem to be less than confident in LT's future.
Again, a lot of this is based on pretty much little better than mere he-said-she-said and that rarely is that the whole story. Hell, there's certainly no shortage of shining examples of that truth in today's world. Just thought I'd toss in my side of it, how shaky it probably is. Two cents and all that.
But I think that misses the point, or at least mine (which admittedly I didn't really make clear). Loosing the companion system, while unfortunate, isn't really the reason that news struck me the way it did. A lot of the complaints I've heard is of Innoxia's hilariously consistent delays, coupled with the sheer volume of bland yet bug-riddled content, and now content is being axed, all the while without hiring help which has been suggested since as far back as when I last played in fact. If any of that is true, then I kind of feel like this is not really great news. Maybe I'm wrong, but we'll see I guess. Not hating on the dev or anything, but if they haven't reach out yet for help at all and still haven't been able to hit a target release date even once, then I'd at least be a little concerned. Short-term, removing the companion system might be a smart move, it's just that that's hardly the biggest or most long-term of critiques that seem to be routinely brought up. Games like this being done solo like that are a real sketchy shot in the dark anyways. Not being able or willing to recognize the need to tackle something this big in bigger numbers than one is one of the reasons some seem to be less than confident in LT's future.
Again, a lot of this is based on pretty much little better than mere he-said-she-said and that rarely is that the whole story. Hell, there's certainly no shortage of shining examples of that truth in today's world. Just thought I'd toss in my side of it, how shaky it probably is. Two cents and all that.
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You mean exactly what the toggle does?
Simply making that the only way it works was on the table, but it'd be confusing for new players who weren't there for the announcement and would find an inconsistent mechanic that got inexplicably abandoned around the time they leave Dominion. So instead the older player who are assumed to have that context can go and enable their limited companion support if they can't live without.
While the game has sandbox elements, it's intended to be an RPG with an overarching story that the player can affect through their in-game decisions. The current form of the game is basically a prologue to the game proper.
So while you can play the current version of the game (and, presumably, later versions) as an aimless sandbox of meaningless sex, don't expect supporting this mode of play to be the dev's primary concern.
If somebody were kind enough to unpack it and repost it, I would really appreciate it. Because I'm bad at computers, and can't get these things to work myself
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Only if someone else makes and submits expansions. For the foreseeable future, Inno herself is done with them - both in the literal 'todo-list' sense as well as the metaphorical.
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thanks, nah I prefer it to say, just because the faster I deal with the enemies, the better, I can just start a fight with flash and let my allies bully them to no end. saving me MP and Essence (cause guns)
Currently, my biggest gripe with the game is that the save function is fairly buggy. It would at times not let me save my progress for no reason at all. I've reset the game multiple times because of it and I've even ran into soft locks too. Can these issues get fixed please?
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That's the first I'm hearing of such things, can you provide some more details on when and where that happens? And is it a new issue in 0.3.9.4 or persistent?
The only advise I can think of right now is to stick to simple names, i.e. (standard English) letters, numbers and dash/underscore. The game's kinda bad about telling you when characters don't work.
It's happened since I first downloaded and the issue has never went away. This bug seems to happen randomly and when it happens, a soft lock will follow suit shortly. The soft lock happens whenever I enter a different location, especially Lily's home. The game also at times lags.
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This is what happens when the developer works almost exclusively on sandbox elements for nearly half of the time the game has been in development - it leads to misconceptions. New players, in particular, don't know LT to be anything other than a sandbox experience with some "insignificant" story happening in the background. While it does contain some elements of thereof, the game is actually meant to be an RPG - it even says on the developer's own website under "What is Lilith's Throne?". In my biased opinion, that means story in the center and everything else second.
But until Inno starts treating the game as such and making progress on that front, most people are just going to keep treating this game for what it is ATM (mostly a sandbox experience) rather than what it is meant to be (an RPG). We're nearing the day we are finally able to move out of Dominion and see more story progression, yet, I know some people are dreading the day because all they care about is more sandbox stuff and anything that takes time away from that particular element, is "time wasted" in their opinion.
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Hmmm, well, lag is pretty much a standard Java feature or it might be a memory leak somewhere. Not much to be done, really. Save early, save often and try giving the game a bit more RAM to work with or test one of the other versions (jar/exe, whichever you're not using atm). Rare and random is exactly the kind of issue a dev can waste half a day on for no result so it's not terribly likely to be addressed anytime soon.
To be honest I'd prefer if Innoxia held back on the story for longer and focused on improving sex. It's the main thing in the game and yet it's still lacking so bad, every part of it feels like a placeholder. Sandbox is what makes LT so fun, but it needs improving.