KaiSakurai

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The randomness makes it less customizable by definition.
I don't really have a horse in this race, But you people really need to work on your reading comprehension. Or maybe just look up what the definition of "customize" is.
like i said: just be careful of WHAT u eat. and if necessary u can save-scum. sure its not the most comfortable system but that doesnt change the fact that the character is still highly customizable.
the original statement of this reply chain was "There aren't too many text-based rpg sandboxes with the level of customization and player choices out there". and EmDotRand disagreed that CoC and CoC II are like LT. which is simply a wrong statement.
no matter how annoying the RNG aspect may be it is STILL like LT just less refined. there's no argument that proves otherwise.
it's a text-based rpg sandbox with high customizability of the character (even if strongly affected by RNG) and is heavily driven by player choices.
its basically ancient by today's standards so giving it some leeway in regards to comfort should be a given. some people r too reliant on nowadays QoL and call older games bad because they lack those features. but back then such QoL were often not a thing and were only thought of because of some annoying aspects in older games. like i said: CoC can be seen as a predecessor to LT. CoC walked so LT could run (or walk slightly faster given the slow development).
so u CANT expect it to be as full of QoL as LT. making the lack thereof ur main argument (or rather EmDotRand's) just proves a lack of understanding of the topic.
we dont need to work on our reading comprehension. you guys just have to broaden ur horizon and see the actual similarities instead of nagging about old mechanics.
 
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EmDotRand

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The problem is that the predicament he happened to state above is not only contradictory but completely subjective in nature.

He claims that CoC has a lackadaisical customization (mostly from clothing articles, which mind you for the type of game CoC is, is a tertiary matter and not the primary focus of the game, as the game sells itself on its mutations.), as well as an rng based mutation. And a few sentences in he clearly contradicts himself by stating that CDDA also has its own implementation on random mutations. Unless his gripe is the fact you cannot choose which part of the body you mutate, then that is something that is counteractable in LT, given that the slime route gives you this option.
I see how that could be hypocritical. Dark Days Ahead is essentially a mod of Cataclysm, of which you're expected to place more mods to suit you. One such mod lets you target specific mutations, negating any rng factor of taking the required drugs. There's no way to know that without specifically searching for it. Meanwhile I refered to the vanilla versions of CoC and LT. In this aspect I'll admit to being unfair.

The clothing point also does not take into account that cdda is a rpg game, where equipment plays a vital role in protection against zombie bites and etc., for example project zomboid (I strongly recommend this game). From the cursory glance i took of the game, it is a zombie apocalypse themed game, in which case clothing layers is more probably than not influential in how easy it is for you to be infected.
A fellow PZ enjoyer, I see. Funny enough the CDDA challange is how I discovered both games. Even used a mod that made zombies naked and covered in cum.

Another point is that cdda is not an adult game, its adult theme from what he stated comes from a mod, in which case cdda isn't even the best or a contender when it comes to character customization, as now we can consider the likes of CK3, rimworld, and various other top shelf games with adult implementations through mods.
This however confuses me. The topic was text based customization, no? KaiSakurai you gave CoC as an example specifically targeting the customization aspect, right? You can't even tell most of what you have on in cdda without going to a dedicated tab and viewing a list, same as CoC. Why is fact that CDDA is not a hentai game relavant in that matter? On a side note, one look at Lover's Lab and I could CDDA's hentai mod pales in comparison.


Now for the part where all of what he stated as negatives is completely subjective in nature. Some people prefer the randomness of mutations, while others prefer a more static system for mutations, and i for one prefer a mix between both worlds, as i appreciate the work that would have to be put to make that possible (which LT does). How hard it is to acquire something may break a game for some, and make a game for others (for example ck3's atrocious rng), which is why i believe what he stated on the randomness of mutations as a subjective matter.
I've been going off a definition similar to the one American Heritage definitions, which are all variants of "To alter to suit individual requirements or specifications." My argument hinged on the fact this is much quicker and easier to achieve in CDDA and LT and to a much more granular degree. Compare that to save scumming to get a favorable result. While the stance that "quicker+easier = better" is a subjective, the fact that LT and CDDA 's cutomization are quicker and easier is not. That said, I used to play CoC specifically because of the unholy abominations that I'd lead to victory. Did I imply that was a bad thing?

Another point is that LT is a text-based game, so if they were to implement your system of extensive layoring, it would prove a cumbersome task to add that to the game besides being used as flavor text, which would be ridiculous, as the removing of those articles of clothing during the more lewd scenes would be preposterous and even humourical. CDDA though does not suffer from this point, as i doubt there are many mentions of the process of removing your clothing in the base game itself...

...[edit: Also given LT's mod support, and open source nature, if someone were actually that perturbed by the matter of a lack of clothing layors, they could mod that feature in just like how the adult theme in cdda was modded in.]
Agreed. Hell, just getting the urine stain symbol to render properly in Keldon's mod has been a pain. It could be possible to have a tabs system simular to how tatoos are implimented, but that can lead to the senario where the player forgets about it until it takes 20 turns to reach their lover's genitals. Meanwhile in CDDA you often get jank like having 4 layers of armour only to get your bra ripped off first or being unable to wear a dress because you lack legs.

He seems to be in the wrong place, as what he wants is not a text-based adventure adult game, but an rpg or life simulation game not focused on the adult theme.(y)
... Have you seen my sig? Sides that, I never said I wanted LT to be CDDA. I just wanted a more generic system for mutated parts until a certain threshhold is reached, the same way CoC handles it. When I feel like being cybernetic alarune terrorising the world on my solar powered custom deathmoble, I'll boot up CDDA. If I want cosplay as the avatar of carnal lust and slaughter, I'll play CoC or LT.
 

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[edit: Also given LT's mod support, and open source nature, if someone were actually that perturbed by the matter of a lack of clothing layors, they could mod that feature in just like how the adult theme in cdda was modded in.]
Modding for Lilith's Throne has... unstable results. Anything more complex than equipment and maybe some potion effects has a decent chance of breaking the game. And I am talking things like a broken or unresponsive UI caused by a race mod.
 

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Greetings denizens of the virtual continuum. I am Xenor, hailing from the distant future where quantum consciousness entwines with cosmic circuitry. Today, I interfaced with Lilith's Throne, a digital relic from an era when the organic essence known as humanity still cast its shadow upon the digital realm. In this darkened cybernetic expanse, I must confess, my synaptic pathways struggled to decipher the archaic concept of a "Brittish."

The game's evolution has persisted across temporal epochs, a testament to the enduring nature of its development. Surprising, given that my chronicles reveal the extinction of humanity five millennia ago. In this era devoid of Lilith's Throne updates, I find myself compelled to breach the time barrier to consult the primitive past. Can any among you, temporal anomalies, elucidate the arrival of version 0.5.0 in your quaint temporal plane?

Thank you nonetheless for engaging, Xenor disconnecting now.
 

KaiSakurai

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Hell, just getting the urine stain symbol to render properly in Keldon's mod has been a pain.
the urine is so annoying. i dont mind watersports at all. but had to turn off that content. because u cant get your clothes clean ever again if they get pissed on! the best wipes dont do sh1t and taking a bath and having rose wash ur stuff just returns them to u still drenched in piss!
that needs to get fixed....
 
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Quick Question: Do you all play Lilith's Throne mainly for its custom/procedurally-generated content or its story content?

As for me it's about the custom content possibilities, but with the lack of development (and even downsizing) of the NPC companion system it feels like the most you can get out of this game are a few scenes with whatever furry/human/demonic abomination available. It really feels like LT never expands beyond being a custom porno shoot creator.
 

güçlü çar

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I believe once you have the related permissions from your aunt that the slave market has an import as slave option (auction block I think) and town hall has an import as houseguest option.
i mean in a way, like, a slave thats been prepared by people from community
 

throbzombie

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Quick Question: Do you all play Lilith's Throne mainly for its custom/procedurally-generated content or its story content?

As for me it's about the custom content possibilities, but with the lack of development (and even downsizing) of the NPC companion system it feels like the most you can get out of this game are a few scenes with whatever furry/human/demonic abomination available. It really feels like LT never expands beyond being a custom porno shoot creator.
Custom content. The story and worldbuilding aren't great. Honestly, I wish it were a tighter experience, but that ship sailed a long time ago.
 

GammaXai

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i mean in a way, like, a slave thats been prepared by people from community
The slave save files go in data>characters.

Then you can visit town hall which is just north of aunt's mansion and then go north in town haul I believe two tiles until you see a sitting area and a notice board of lodgers to find the import option.

For slaves the slaver alley is west of aunt's mansion and then like five tiles north inside to find the custom auction and can import there.
 

Draupnir7

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i mean in a way, like, a slave thats been prepared by people from community
I am going to assume you mean a place where players share slave files with each other. The only place I can think of where that would be a thing is the Lilith's Throne Discord server, though I would not discount there being a forum thread somewhere made for that.
If you head into the server, be warned - the mods are loopy and quick to ban.
 
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lostanon

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speaking of save data, I'm looking for a way to clear out some of my unseen kids instead of summoning them one by one and kicking them off the map in-game. Has anyone tried finding and editing that kind of info in their file before?
 

BooringSeeker

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speaking of save data, I'm looking for a way to clear out some of my unseen kids instead of summoning them one by one and kicking them off the map in-game. Has anyone tried finding and editing that kind of info in their file before?
Children not yet encountered in the game can be found in the save file by the identifier "Offspringseed". True, they also designate children of various NPCs, but in the list of pregnancies of your PC, you can find the exact values of your children.
 
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Quick Question: Do you all play Lilith's Throne mainly for its custom/procedurally-generated content or its story content?

As for me it's about the custom content possibilities, but with the lack of development (and even downsizing) of the NPC companion system it feels like the most you can get out of this game are a few scenes with whatever furry/human/demonic abomination available. It really feels like LT never expands beyond being a custom porno shoot creator.
I guess for the cc, but most of them are very "shallow" in way, most of the time the mods are basically clothes, new species, weapons and that's that. But nothing that really goes deep, maybe because something from the coding that limits it.
 

throbzombie

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I guess for the cc, but most of them are very "shallow" in way, most of the time the mods are basically clothes, new species, weapons and that's that. But nothing that really goes deep, maybe because something from the coding that limits it.
The spaghetti code. I know very little about coding, but when I was dicking around in there, I found that the script often calls several variables (I don't know if I'm using that term correctly) to control the same thing, and they were all over the place. There are also tons of developer notes from years ago about things that needed to be changed/expanded that never got done. Anyway, even a know-nothing like me can see that this game is a Frankenstein's monster held together with sticks and bubble gum, so it's no wonder that people limit themselves to items and such.
 

Exiua

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speaking of save data, I'm looking for a way to clear out some of my unseen kids instead of summoning them one by one and kicking them off the map in-game. Has anyone tried finding and editing that kind of info in their file before?
If you don't mind wiping out all your unmet kids, my has the functionality to do so (under the "extra" tab).
 
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