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Sant3224

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Dec 6, 2022
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Quick Question: Do you all play Lilith's Throne mainly for its custom/procedurally-generated content or its story content?

As for me it's about the custom content possibilities, but with the lack of development (and even downsizing) of the NPC companion system it feels like the most you can get out of this game are a few scenes with whatever furry/human/demonic abomination available. It really feels like LT never expands beyond being a custom porno shoot creator.
I guess for the cc, but most of them are very "shallow" in way, most of the time the mods are basically clothes, new species, weapons and that's that. But nothing that really goes deep, maybe because something from the coding that limits it.
 

throbzombie

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Oct 15, 2020
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I guess for the cc, but most of them are very "shallow" in way, most of the time the mods are basically clothes, new species, weapons and that's that. But nothing that really goes deep, maybe because something from the coding that limits it.
The spaghetti code. I know very little about coding, but when I was dicking around in there, I found that the script often calls several variables (I don't know if I'm using that term correctly) to control the same thing, and they were all over the place. There are also tons of developer notes from years ago about things that needed to be changed/expanded that never got done. Anyway, even a know-nothing like me can see that this game is a Frankenstein's monster held together with sticks and bubble gum, so it's no wonder that people limit themselves to items and such.
 

Exiua

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Dec 18, 2017
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speaking of save data, I'm looking for a way to clear out some of my unseen kids instead of summoning them one by one and kicking them off the map in-game. Has anyone tried finding and editing that kind of info in their file before?
If you don't mind wiping out all your unmet kids, my has the functionality to do so (under the "extra" tab).
 
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lostanon

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If you don't mind wiping out all your unmet kids, my has the functionality to do so (under the "extra" tab).
Was hoping for more of a curated approach to them, but I'll look into this tool. Opening my save files to exit in notepad for the exe version of the game is taking a while now due to all the data in them. Wish this had a targeted unmet deleter or editor, but it might just be best I sunset the entire crowd and then re-curate from there. Running out of street space.
 

medassin

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Apr 5, 2018
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Hello, I'm just making this post to let you all know that I'm still here and working on Lilith's Throne, but progress hasn't been very good since my last post. I've been feeling very stressed and down recently, which has made it very hard to focus on LT's content. I'll get the release out to you as soon as I possibly can, which really shouldn't be too much longer now.
I'm sorry that I didn't make this post sooner. I feel terribly guilty about not having the update ready for you, and I really will do my best to get it finished as soon as possible. I feel like I really don't deserve your support with how poor my performance has been recently, but I am very grateful for it and will do my best going forwards to make enough content to perhaps be worthy of it.
I really am very sorry once again for the lack of updates and poor communication. I really will try to improve. Thank you for your patience.
She stress now :cautious:
 

aspar4gus

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I imagine if i ever tell my client that i need to suspend their work for +3 month because of a mental problem they'll politely ask if i'm ok out of humane concern but then proceed to cut me off from the job and find another available professionals

Patreon system astonishingly enables and reward ppl with terrible work ethics
 

KaiSakurai

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Mar 26, 2020
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u going hard mode? cause some squares seem impossible to get:
"complete artstyle overhaul"... in a text-based game. unless u mean the UI design itself.
also: "dev team infighting" and "dev staff joining/quitting" and "flaky dev team"... i thought she did it by herself. or do the "contributors" in the credits actually count as staff? "contributor" sounds kinda voluntary to me.
"out-of-project-spending"... unless she gonna suddenly buy a car or house (or mansion) the minimum $5k per month from subscribestar for the project should cover everything from project and private imo.
"dayjob schedule conflicts... from what i read so far she had a subscribestar goal for going full time on LT which was more than met? so unless she been lying there shouldnt be a dayjob (not that she'd need that with $5k per month)

that's 6 squares that seem impossible. leaving vertically only the 4th column, horizontally the 2nd and 5th row and the 2 diagonals. aka only 5 out of 12 bingos possible.
 

chichong

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May 7, 2020
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I've read a lot of horror stories about people being banned on Discord just for questioning Inno's work ethic, despite using civil language and not breaking ToS. I haven't tried myself, but I'm tempted to. However, I'd like to know a bit more before entering in so-called wolfs den.

Is is true?
 

Spectrons

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Mar 15, 2018
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I've read a lot of horror stories about people being banned on Discord just for questioning Inno's work ethic, despite using civil language and not breaking ToS. I haven't tried myself, but I'm tempted to. However, I'd like to know a bit more before entering in so-called wolfs den.

Is is true?
Try to send them this message.

"I'm the sole developer of Lilith's Throne. I post an update every 7-10 days."
~Innoxia~

Don't forget to check if your door locked for the night.
 

GammaXai

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Oct 5, 2018
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I've read a lot of horror stories about people being banned on Discord just for questioning Inno's work ethic, despite using civil language and not breaking ToS. I haven't tried myself, but I'm tempted to. However, I'd like to know a bit more before entering in so-called wolfs den.

Is is true?
You need contributor rank at the absolute minimum to get away with it, you don't get to call out a lack of work ethic when you haven't made a single update to the game yourself.
 

EmDotRand

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Sep 7, 2020
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I've read a lot of horror stories about people being banned on Discord just for questioning Inno's work ethic, despite using civil language and not breaking ToS. I haven't tried myself, but I'm tempted to. However, I'd like to know a bit more before entering in so-called wolfs den.

Is is true?
IDK how the environment is now, but back when I frequented Discord there were several known people there that routinely joked about how long the updates would take in the programming thread.
 

Exiua

Newbie
Dec 18, 2017
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Was hoping for more of a curated approach to them, but I'll look into this tool. Opening my save files to exit in notepad for the exe version of the game is taking a while now due to all the data in them. Wish this had a targeted unmet deleter or editor, but it might just be best I sunset the entire crowd and then re-curate from there. Running out of street space.
Just updated the to support selective offspring removal.

Also, AFAIK, unmet and unborn offsprings are tagged differently than met offsprings (OffspringSeed tag vs NPC tag w/com.lilithsthrone.game.character.npc.misc.NPCOffspring pathName tag). So the wipe all offspring button should not get rid of met offsprings unless you are using a save from an older version of the game. In older saves and older versions of the save editor, the offspring wipe all button would check to make sure the worldLocation of an offspring was set to "EMPTY" before deleting them. However, the worldLocation of an NPC is set to "EMPTY" when an NPC is not actively on a tile, even if they can be encountered on that tile. This meant the offsprings that have not been moved to the player's home could be delete even if the player had met them.
 

Lady Luck

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Just updated the to support selective offspring removal.

Also, AFAIK, unmet and unborn offsprings are tagged differently than met offsprings (OffspringSeed tag vs NPC tag w/com.lilithsthrone.game.character.npc.misc.NPCOffspring pathName tag). So the wipe all offspring button should not get rid of met offsprings unless you are using a save from an older version of the game. In older saves and older versions of the save editor, the offspring wipe all button would check to make sure the worldLocation of an offspring was set to "EMPTY" before deleting them. However, the worldLocation of an NPC is set to "EMPTY" when an NPC is not actively on a tile, even if they can be encountered on that tile. This meant the offsprings that have not been moved to the player's home could be delete even if the player had met them.
didn't even know this thing existed. tested it, can confirm it does not get rid of offspring you have met. however, after messing with the editor, that seems to be the only thing it can do. any other changes you make don't get applied (I might have missed some apply button though). tried changing name, date of birth, health, mana, and money as separate tests; but after overwriting and re-opening the file nothing had changed. so don't know if some bug got introduced, or if its operator error and I just missed something. definitely a cool thing overall though, and just being able to remove offspring with a single button is enough since other things are edited manually easily enough.
 

Polarthief

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Dec 29, 2021
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I'll get the release out to you as soon as I possibly can, which really shouldn't be too much longer now.
That's so weird when her previous update, OVER A MONTH AGO, was titled "Almost There..."

I imagine if i ever tell my client that i need to suspend their work for +3 month because of a mental problem they'll politely ask if i'm ok out of humane concern but then proceed to cut me off from the job and find another available professionals

Patreon system astonishingly enables and reward ppl with terrible work ethics
I mean, if people would just stop simping and supporting her, she wouldn't get away with it. People are enabling her to put out virtually no content after like... what, 3-5 years now?, and they're giving her a LOT of money to do nothing. She's raking in over 6 figures just from subscribers IIRC.

"I'm the sole developer of Lilith's Throne. I post an update every 7-10 days."
~Innoxia~
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"7~10 days". I like how she thinks 17 and 39 are numbers between "7~10".
 

Exiua

Newbie
Dec 18, 2017
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didn't even know this thing existed. tested it, can confirm it does not get rid of offspring you have met. however, after messing with the editor, that seems to be the only thing it can do. any other changes you make don't get applied (I might have missed some apply button though). tried changing name, date of birth, health, mana, and money as separate tests; but after overwriting and re-opening the file nothing had changed. so don't know if some bug got introduced, or if its operator error and I just missed something. definitely a cool thing overall though, and just being able to remove offspring with a single button is enough since other things are edited manually easily enough.
The should have fixed that issue. If the issue still persists, send me a copy of your output.log file (should either be in the directory where the .jar/.exe file is or in %AppData%\Local\warp\packages\LTSaveEd.exe\ for the .exe). If you can't find the log file, you can just send me a copy of the affected save and the name of the character you were trying to edit.
 
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