Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[panaeon]

The code is a haphazard mess that Inno never actually fixed. They just kept building on top of their old garbage code, burying it in more garbage. Now that they're at a point where the understand Java better and could make a less messy base... they've already buried it in more code to the point a full rewrite of the game would likely be required to avoid breaking basically anything. Now if someone were to come along and take on that daunting task, then maybe we could see something feasible for more in-depth modding.

Even if it contains content you might find distasteful, I'd suggest at least checking out the other version located in EmDotRand's signature.
You can turn all of the unwanted stuff off without much hassle.

Well, I was trying to get the 0.4.9 Version of LT running on Linux - it's such a pain in the booty, I can say!
I'll try this "Fork" of LT - LoLT I'd call it - and see if that works better with Standard-JRE on Linux - or if it needs the Temurin JDK, too (if anyone already tried this, please let me know).

Yet, if this version turns out to actually run on Linux Distros without as much of a hassle as the original LT, I think Inno might need to change something in her rigid-minded development process or licensing (make it OpenSource entirely so other devs can contribute and mod whatever they want maybe?)

Also: Isn't "Fort of Chains" also similarly "flexible" as this Game, yet a Browser Game? I knew it reminded me of some Game - and I think that's pretty much it. Yet, FoC got a little too complex quickly after playing it quite a while. It's really nice stories and quests/missions, too, but it was getting more (stressful) "micro-managing-work" than pleasant enjoyment at some point.

Since I only got so far with LT, I can't really say how it is with this Game yet - so far I like the progression pretty well since it's not as overwhelming as FoC was for me...

So, I'll check whether or not LoLT runs natively on (in my case Arch-based) Linux and if so, I'll really celebrate it and smack Inno's booty with the fact, that her rigidity costs her Game players (even though I somewhat doubt she'd care since most folks are still using Windows sadly - which might change when Windows gets more and more intrusive privacy-wise and Linux keeps getting more and more user-friendly [see Steamdeck and other Linux-based Handhelds for reference]).

Cheers and thanks so much again for mentioning this "fork" of the Game basically - it sounds from what you're writing, that the dev of that somewhat "updated the Code" to be compatible with more recent versions of Java...did I get that right?
- I mean, I'm using it with the most recent Temurin Java Development Kit and it works like a charm on Windows at least - not sure if I can get it to run on my Arch-based Linux Distro yet, since someone on the LT Discord Tech Support told me, that the Linux-JDKs don't come with JavaFX, which is obviously needed to play the .jar-Version there.

 

[EmDotRand]

Well, I was trying to get the 0.4.9 Version of LT running on Linux - it's such a pain in the booty, I can say!
I'll try this "Fork" of LT - LoLT I'd call it - and see if that works better with Standard-JRE on Linux - or if it needs the Temurin JDK, too (if anyone already tried this, please let me know).

Yet, if this version turns out to actually run on Linux Distros without as much of a hassle as the original LT, I think Inno might need to change something in her rigid-minded development process or licensing (make it OpenSource entirely so other devs can contribute and mod whatever they want maybe?)

Also: Isn't "Fort of Chains" also similarly "flexible" as this Game, yet a Browser Game? I knew it reminded me of some Game - and I think that's pretty much it. Yet, FoC got a little too complex quickly after playing it quite a while. It's really nice stories and quests/missions, too, but it was getting more (stressful) "micro-managing-work" than pleasant enjoyment at some point.

Since I only got so far with LT, I can't really say how it is with this Game yet - so far I like the progression pretty well since it's not as overwhelming as FoC was for me...

So, I'll check whether or not LoLT runs natively on (in my case Arch-based) Linux and if so, I'll really celebrate it and smack Inno's booty with the fact, that her rigidity costs her Game players (even though I somewhat doubt she'd care since most folks are still using Windows sadly - which might change when Windows gets more and more intrusive privacy-wise and Linux keeps getting more and more user-friendly [see Steamdeck and other Linux-based Handhelds for reference]).

Cheers and thanks so much again for mentioning this "fork" of the Game basically - it sounds from what you're writing, that the dev of that somewhat "updated the Code" to be compatible with more recent versions of Java...did I get that right?
- I mean, I'm using it with the most recent Temurin Java Development Kit and it works like a charm on Windows at least - not sure if I can get it to run on my Arch-based Linux Distro yet, since someone on the LT Discord Tech Support told me, that the Linux-JDKs don't come with JavaFX, which is obviously needed to play the .jar-Version there.

Greetings fellow arch user LoLT's linux version just uses openjdk instead of Oracle's java. A while back I documented how I got vanilla LT working. Hasn't changed much: jre17-openjdk and java17-openjfx to run the game, java17-openjdk and maven to build all versions of the game.

 

[PussyPassAnon]

Hot take: Remake the game in Python.

 

[Skooky]

I imagine most here might already know this fun tidbit, but Rollercoaster Tycoon was coded in Assembly with a smidge of C. It's the reason that game ran so well at the time, and it meant the developer didn't have to pay much in the way of licensing fees.

Someone should totally make an AI whose only purpose is to grab code and just rewrite it in straight up machine code (and vice-versa) so every program is just stupidly well optimized.

 

[PussyPassAnon]

 

[johnysanchez01]

seriously tho I do hope that if the game is dropped by inno it is picked up by a community 1/100th the size of the skyrim one. because even tho this engine has many bad choices in its development, the base framework for a good game is there. That or i am smoking some serious copium lol.

I think the framework isn't ideal to be quite honest. From what I've gathered from the forums the game is logging a bunch of characters and stats that have no impact on the immediate scene and they don't do anything in the background either. So the game is bogged down by all this.
Plus, the game is extremely "wide" and not so "deep", and it seems part of the problem with the lack of depth is because there are so many systems interacting with each other that some can be borked if one thing gets changed.
I will say the sex system in this game is actually pretty impressive, it gives a wide variety of actions without being as tedious as say Degrees of Lewdity.

 

[johnysanchez01]

Hot take: Remake the game in Python.

Hotter take: Remake the game in Rust.

 

[quadangle]

remake the game in ogre engine

 

[EmDotRand]

Hotter take: Remake the game in Rust.

That take is ice water. This game and the memes inspired me to learn Rust.

 

[AnonZeta]

What the hell does Iron Oxide have anything to do with game development?

 

[Draupnir7]

Hotter take: Remake the game in Rust.

Hottest take: Make the game

 

[Lady Luck]

What the hell does Iron Oxide have anything to do with game development?

I could be wrong, but I think Iron Oxide is one of the components of electronics. so I guess the answer to your question is... a lot?

 

[Lady Luck]

Hottest take: Make the game

careful now, don't make me get my pitchfork

 

[jfmherokiller]

Hotter take: Remake the game in Rust.

but would it have the same level of moddability?

 

[throbzombie]

but would it have the same level of moddability?

It has barely any in its current state, unless you feel like performing open-heart surgery on a barely-functional indie game.

 

[BooringSeeker]

but would it have the same level of moddability?

One might think that LT has a high level of modifiability. The list of mods is full of races and clothes. I do not recall that there was a mod somewhere that changes the mechanics, adds new interactions with NPCs, a new perks tree, enchantments, etc. Something similar was only in the Keldon Mod, it seems to have added a couple of new fetishes and interactions... Well, that's it, it seems.

 

[jfmherokiller]

It has barely any in its current state, unless you feel like performing open-heart surgery on a barely-functional indie game.

One might think that LT has a high level of modifiability. The list of mods is full of races and clothes. I do not recall that there was a mod somewhere that changes the mechanics, adds new interactions with NPCs, a new perks tree, enchantments, etc. Something similar was only in the Keldon Mod, it seems to have added a couple of new fetishes and interactions... Well, that's it, it seems.

for me id be more focused on adding/extending furry mods. So yes making/modifying race mods and thier possible buffs and debuffs.

 

[jfmherokiller]

if i was to add new mechanics to the game i might bring over some more bdsm ideas from BDCC. And possibly add some deeper level of hypnosis.

 

[EmDotRand]

I'd make it so fighting and sex are more intertwined a la DoL. You'd have the option to just fuck someone into submision instead of having to beat them up or tease them first. Instead of always knowing that a malicious entity is approaching there's a chance of someone ambushing you and ripping of a clothing piece or cumming on a random area or even shoving a finger/tail/phalus in an unprotected hole. With the rape toggle off you'd have things separate as they are now with foes asking for concent before fucking you.

 

[krogine]

one of the most dissapointing things about this guy after getting into it was how the clothes transformations really didnt go as far as they should and taking the effort to try and mod the one outfit i had thought of would've been far more work than the game deserved from me (in my opinion)

like, why is there no rings that let you sprout multiple penises, a tail, gills, demon eyes, wings, ect so long as you're wearing it in the game about transformations??? why cant i have a cape that transforms into bat wings god dammit!?