MSGTNP

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This is slightly off topic to this game, but I'm just wondering what everyone's opinion is on this.

I like both this game and Trials in Tainted Space (and CoC, but I'll exclude it for the sake of brevity). However, I can't help but feel that TiTS has more engaging and varied content. I do tend to prefer combat in this game though, at least in the early game (or if I choose not to abuse broken strategies), and some other gameplay elements as well, but I want to keep the question strictly focused on the way content is worked into the games.

Whenever I play this game I play it for maybe a couple of weeks, but never really interact with anything in the game outside of the intro stuff and the (relatively few) unique encounters, because everything resolves to basically the same set of interactions with few variations between all encounters (sex encounter A is virtually indistinguishable from sex encounter B, baring some flavor text for body part types). There's just so little variety between the scenes for each character that I grow bored. Even in the "unique" encounters, the encounter uses the same menu, and mostly the same text with the same variations for every action. There's depth and relatively well-written content up to a point, but the payoff is then a generic sexual encounter that is shared between every other entity in the game. It just feels like a letdown to me. It even gets to the point where I just "quick sex" everything just to read the actual unique bits - the build-up - which is not something that should happen in a sex game! Nyan's quest line is a decent example of this issue. Lots of build up, decent conversations, dates, etc., but the instant anything sexual happens it resolves to virtually the same exact sexual encounter as every other sexual encounter in the game with a few unique lines of dialogue that don't really add anything. How boring!

TiTS on the other hand has exclusively unique scenes, which comes at the cost of "less" content, since everything is basically either one and done, or is replayed with very slight, preset variations for flavor (body part variations). This means that every single character has entirely different scenes, but you never get interactions not purposefully designed by the developers (e.g., you'll never get some characters pregnant, or have a tit-job scene with another, etc.). This means that I avoid some characters entirely, since I can't change or influence their content, but that I get generally more entirely unique content that I do like. Very little feels generic across all events. I also think that this style of content yields much faster update times, since the devs don't have to redo the entire code base every single time they want to add more stuff, which is apparently a problem this game/dev has. Penny's quest line is a good example of content in this game. Entirely unique, shared by no other character, but once you've finished it you're basically repeating the same (although still unique) scenes. It's good, but not something you'll be able to repeat forever.

I personally prefer the latter, as I find it more entertaining to read the actual written stories and events, but I'm just wondering which people prefer more.
To be frank, your basically fucked no matter what game you choose, whether it be LT or COCII/TITS. Both Developers equally suck ass, though having prior experience dealing with Tobs shit ass, your probably better off with LT since Inno to my knowledge, doesn't create salt mine content to piss you off intentionally. Tobs and those ass turds intentionally shit on their fans and will make content just to spite you, than there's the issue where sure, it's got a shit ton of characters(looking at you COCII) but 75% of them are abandoned with barely any content so really, pick your poison :/
 
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After I read the scenes in CoC or TITS once or twice, I'm not motivated to read them again. Having zero variance in a scene during a game make want to put it down and read an erotica instead. At least I won't have to make a specific build and maintain it in order to get on a character's good side or having a character gone for the rest of a run due to RNG. Worst part of CoC by far.

a mix of the two is my preference. special and unique characters/events should get special and unique scenes, while the sex engine works well for mobs and generic sex. Course of Temptation does this relatively well, though much of the game is still mainly driven by the sex engine. I like the freeform aspect of that kind of sex scene every now and then cause it easily caters to different PCs/NPCs, without railroading your character to a preset number of determined ways you dick them up and down. It does get tedious after a while, but a quick sex mechanic is precisely there to fix that oftentimes. Another game that does it quite well, though it is painfully slow at updating as well, is Newlife (I'm beginning to think there's a conspiracy going on with animal named devs and milking patrons)
I second your premise, but in Course of Temptation is way too slow paced for me. Went the whole first week having to masturbate in order to keep my release down since everyone was more interested in yelling dead memes at me. Even when I got some guy to screw my ass, he came once at goddamn light speed and bailed before I was satisfied. Meanwhile in LT and TITS you can get lucky before the tutorial ends.
 

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After I read the scenes in CoC or TITS once or twice, I'm not motivated to read them again. Having zero variance in a scene during a game make want to put it down and read an erotica instead. At least I won't have to make a specific build and maintain it in order to get on a character's good side or having a character gone for the rest of a run due to RNG. Worst part of CoC by far.



I second your premise, but in Course of Temptation is way too slow paced for me. Went the whole first week having to masturbate in order to keep my release down since everyone was more interested in yelling dead memes at me. Even when I got some guy to screw my ass, he came once at goddamn light speed and bailed before I was satisfied. Meanwhile in LT and TITS you can get lucky before the tutorial ends.

That's another issue COC II has a whole. It's basically a VN with little, if any variation lol
I doubt their going to add any more real choice anyway since the dev's are doubling down on the belief it isn't a game, but if that's the case, why even make it in the first place as such.

Can we really even consider COT a real game? It's so barebones there's hardly any content aside from the randomly generated students and the professors you can fuck. It's like LT when it first came out, but with only humans lol
 

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That's another issue COC II has a whole. It's basically a VN with little, if any variation lol
I doubt their going to add any more real choice anyway since the dev's are doubling down on the belief it isn't a game, but if that's the case, why even make it in the first place as such.

Can we really even consider COT a real game? It's so barebones there's hardly any content aside from the randomly generated students and the professors you can fuck. It's like LT when it first came out, but with only humans lol
COT seems to draw more inspiration from Degrees of Lewdity than LT, maybe a 60/40 or 70/30 ratio.
 

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That's another issue COC II has a whole. It's basically a VN with little, if any variation lol
I doubt their going to add any more real choice anyway since the dev's are doubling down on the belief it isn't a game, but if that's the case, why even make it in the first place as such.

Can we really even consider COT a real game? It's so barebones there's hardly any content aside from the randomly generated students and the professors you can fuck. It's like LT when it first came out, but with only humans lol
I enjoy COT's questlines a lot more than LT. they fit in well and very naturally with its setting and gives the player a lot more agency in how it plays out.

in LT I feel like an errand boy, in COT I feel like I'm interacting with other people on campus. it's two distinctly different styles (you're playing an RPG in LT, a lifesim in COT), but my personal preference is questing/interacting with the world in COT. goes a long way to giving the game personality and even makes the generic sex mechanics more fun

it's also a lot less barebones than you're stating. maybe you haven't revisited it in a while, but there are quite a few more dynamic events now
 
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There's questline? i gave it a try and after like ~2 hours of just clicking on hyperlinks and not a single action happened i gave up
there are quite a few unique character/job quests. try exploring it again when you've got the time. the content definitely takes some time to trigger, but use the hints menu to guide you. much of the events start around the second-third week of classes. since it's so early in development, playing with cheats is the best way to access all that content earlier
 
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I enjoy COT's questlines a lot more than LT. they fit in well and very naturally with its setting and gives the player a lot more agency in how it plays out.

in LT I feel like an errand boy, in COT I feel like I'm interacting with other people on campus. it's two distinctly different styles (you're playing an RPG in LT, a lifesim in COT), but my personal preference is questing/interacting with the world in COT. goes a long way to giving the game personality and even makes the generic sex mechanics more fun

it's also a lot less barebones than you're stating. maybe you haven't revisited it in a while, but there are quite a few more dynamic events now
If your referring to COT, I haven't touched it since 4.21 so I have no idea how much more content been added since than.

LT basically abandonware by this point, I doubt the atmosphere of you being a mere errand boy ever gonna change.
 
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Deren

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new to the game, some questions.

which areas are safe to store stuff in? i assume anything that has store instead of drop like lilaya's home is fair game?

second, is there no negatives to basically stealing whatever the person you beat up has? so i can just steal all their weapons and clothes?

third, is it intended i can basically rob the alleyway hobos at 4am with no resistance cuz theyre all sleeping??
 

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new to the game, some questions.

which areas are safe to store stuff in? i assume anything that has store instead of drop like lilaya's home is fair game?

second, is there no negatives to basically stealing whatever the person you beat up has? so i can just steal all their weapons and clothes?

third, is it intended i can basically rob the alleyway hobos at 4am with no resistance cuz theyre all sleeping??
1. yes, i usually store books in the library, clothings in bedroom, consumables in the kitchen (but if i felt really lazy in a playthorugh i just dump them all in the bedroom)

2. nope, u can absolutely strip every single one of them completely with no consequences, if u're not RP-ing and wouldn't mind (gulp) micromanaging ur inventory

3. hmm not sure about sleeping since i never encountered them (i didn't play the newest version), my guess based on older v is that you encountered races that has bad nocturnal eyesight, or maybe during an arcane storm?
 

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third, is it intended i can basically rob the alleyway hobos at 4am with no resistance cuz theyre all sleeping??
Probably not. The fact can initiate encounters and hold conversations while asleep is serious oversight. (Un)fortunately the chance of Innoxia fixing this before
Ragnarök is slim unless someone else steps in.
 

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There's questline? i gave it a try and after like ~2 hours of just clicking on hyperlinks and not a single action happened i gave up
This was my experience as well. Even with cheating the stats to try and speed things up it felt like nothing of interest was happening.
 

Susan Xandera

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new to the game, some questions.

which areas are safe to store stuff in? i assume anything that has store instead of drop like lilaya's home is fair game?

second, is there no negatives to basically stealing whatever the person you beat up has? so i can just steal all their weapons and clothes?

third, is it intended i can basically rob the alleyway hobos at 4am with no resistance cuz theyre all sleeping??
Yeah, its good bug for cheap, and funny yet sad, level ups when in the demon zones of the alleyways if you do not want to use the debug menu.
 

Vodka6329

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You guys know any way I can find my slave's offspring? I've basically been breeding two of my Slaves together and I realized I couldn't let them borrow the Arcane Offspring Map to find their offspring.

P.S.
I've been trying to recreate the Hapsburgs family tree.
 
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Deren

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any place i can buy the maid uniforms and butlers, etc in bulk? or is it just the clothing store in the arcade?

oh and secondary question, are there 'rare' 'epic' stuff set in the magic shop? ie only rare zweihanders, epic katana/wazikashis etc.

another question, is there no way to get someone to willingly become a slave? or at least have guests do more slave-work?
 
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LT help me alleviate some withdrawal symptoms from waiting for for flim13's next gyaru mom video (sadly there's no leopard print miniskirt)

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