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BaloneyAmone

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I wonder where in specific she keeps hitting spaghetti code of such magnitude that literally every single quest addition ends up getting delayed for multiple months, ostensibly just because wrangling it to being functional is apparently torture. I remember that one post from Sarkath where it was basically showed that the dialogue and quest system takes hundreds of lines to do ostensibly simple things, but surely, at this point, she'd at least acclimate to this, and wouldn't be that bad of a hold-up...?
 
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GammaXai

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I wonder where in specific she keeps hitting spaghetti code of such magnitude that literally every single quest addition ends up getting delayed for multiple months, ostensibly just because wrangling it to being functional is apparently torture. I remember that one post from Sarkath where it was basically showed that the dialogue and quest system takes hundreds of lines to do ostensibly simple things, but surely, at this point, she'd at least acclimate to this, and wouldn't be that bad of a hold-up...?
Most of us here believe she is a procrastinator of the highest order so she never acclimatizes because she is doing all the work in one cram session and then months pass of excuses before she looks at it again.

Also I'm pretty sure she uses a dev environment that is good for compiling the releases but really shitty for actual project management / multi-file management.
 

Sarkath

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Also I'm pretty sure she uses a dev environment that is good for compiling the releases but really shitty for actual project management / multi-file management.
Based on the history of lilithsThroneBuildTutorial.md, she's using Eclipse. While it's not my favorite IDE, I can't say I've ever had an issue managing my stupid Minecraft projects with it way back when, no matter how much they grew. From what I recall, its package/class navpane is quite good.

Honestly, I'd say that most major IDEs that survived through 2024 is going to be fine when it comes to project management. So yeah, I'm going with "skill issue" on this one. :)
 

Lady Luck

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Don't understand why people enable that kind of behavior even with $1 donations only.
They all should drop their support and put that game to rest. There haven't been any substantial additions to the game in years anyway :/
seems its time for a check in on how much she makes:

Public Subsribe Star Data as of 9:08 p.m. UTC July 22, 2024
Subscriber fees are ($1*83) + ($5*824) + ($10*197) = $6173/month

for context:

Public Subsribe Star Data as of 02:44 UTC February 6, 2024
Subscriber fees are ($1*84) + ($5*769) + ($10*188) = $5809/month

Going by her blog, the last update was 4.9.9 on Saturday 13, April 2024

Public Subsribe Star Data as of 05:00 UTC May 24, 2024

Subscriber fees are ($1*90) + ($5*733) + ($10*196) = $5715/month

in the last two months, Inno has gained seven $1 subs, ninety-one $5 subs and one $10 sub. She is making $458 more than two months ago and $364 more than 5 months ago despite going down after the most recent update.

Conclusion: When she makes an update she lose subscribers, but when she delays she gains subscribers. She has zero incentive to work, and plenty of incentive not to.

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Based on the history of lilithsThroneBuildTutorial.md, she's using Eclipse. While it's not my favorite IDE, I can't say I've ever had an issue managing my stupid Minecraft projects with it way back when, no matter how much they grew. From what I recall, its package/class navpane is quite good.

Honestly, I'd say that most major IDEs that survived through 2024 is going to be fine when it comes to project management. So yeah, I'm going with "skill issue" on this one. :)
I'm thinking it's more of a production pipeline kind of issue. Things like never taking the time to properly plan out systems and their limits, having scripts to generate all the base files needed to add something to the game, etc. The sort of things an experienced dev will set up because the few hours it takes to do at first is quickly recovered in the long run. Stuff like taking hundreds of lines of code to do simple things reeks of poor planning.
My favorite example is probably the handling of colors, where it's a mess of enums that have things redefined because for some reason, some body parts are limited to only a few colors but others aren't. It should have just been something like the C# Color class, encapsulated in another class that contains an instance of the Color + whatever other attributes she needed for flavor text.
 

throbzombie

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As a 2 year player of "Lilith's Throne F95 Thread", I can tell you the best thing about it is the daily updates consisting of jokes on Innoxia's code, update schedule, minuscule content additions, unwanted content additions, and the occasional sympathizers who are laughed out of the thread. The lore is fairly deep and easy to lose yourself in. I would say the porn content is rather lacking, but the core gameplay loop is great, which consists of writing a post about how Innoxia issued yet another apology for missing their scheduled update due to reasons such as being sick, feeling down, personal issues, or because it rained that day. Once in an eon however they slightly adjust the version number, so you write a post about how it changed fuck all and/or how it's added something stupid that only 0.001% of players asked for like a toenail fungus mechanic. It truly is a unique gaming experience you keep coming back to.

Even after 7 years players still play "Lilith's Throne F95 Thread", which should give you an idea of how dedicated the fanbase is.

Given the frequent update schedule and fun factor, I would rate it 5/5.
The random encounters need some work, though. They either tell you that clowning on Inno will demotivate her, or they call you sad and angry for spending so much time playing the thread. There's just not a whole lot of variety, and I tend to skip the encounters when I can.
 

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You cannot convince me these are not disposable accounts created by simps or even Inno herself to appeal to her rampant procrastination. I don't believe that anyone who has more than 1 neuron in their brain to not recognize how bad her behavior has become. This is 100% a setup to add more echo to her chamber and/or to irritate us critics even more.

One of them literally had Echo in their name. Not concrete evidence for anything, just kinda funny and ironic.
 

MSGTNP

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seems its time for a check in on how much she makes:

Public Subsribe Star Data as of 9:08 p.m. UTC July 22, 2024
Subscriber fees are ($1*83) + ($5*824) + ($10*197) = $6173/month

for context:

Public Subsribe Star Data as of 02:44 UTC February 6, 2024
Subscriber fees are ($1*84) + ($5*769) + ($10*188) = $5809/month

Going by her blog, the last update was 4.9.9 on Saturday 13, April 2024

Public Subsribe Star Data as of 05:00 UTC May 24, 2024

Subscriber fees are ($1*90) + ($5*733) + ($10*196) = $5715/month

in the last two months, Inno has gained seven $1 subs, ninety-one $5 subs and one $10 sub. She is making $458 more than two months ago and $364 more than 5 months ago despite going down after the most recent update.

Conclusion: When she makes an update she lose subscribers, but when she delays she gains subscribers. She has zero incentive to work, and plenty of incentive not to.

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Seriously......WTF >_>
Why don't people just use their money to back another coder who could make a LT but with better code?

Should have taken programming ten years ago when I had the chance but coding scared the fuck out of me back than LOL
 
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You cannot convince me these are not disposable accounts created by simps or even Inno herself to appeal to her rampant procrastination. I don't believe that anyone who has more than 1 neuron in their brain to not recognize how bad her behavior has become. This is 100% a setup to add more echo to her chamber and/or to irritate us critics even more.

One of them literally had Echo in their name. Not concrete evidence for anything, just kinda funny and ironic.
Having spent some time in content creator discords with access to patreon tier creator on subscriber chats, I can tell you it's 100% expected behaviour from patreon pay pigs. They are to afraid to be judged as arrogant for wanting the project to actually develop.
 

Ranzo

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I have a question
How do you get to Helena's apartment and how do you get to fuck her?
I completed her quest to set up her shop but I don't remember what I'm supposed to do next
 

SeerOfMind13

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I have a question
How do you get to Helena's apartment and how do you get to fuck her?
I completed her quest to set up her shop but I don't remember what I'm supposed to do next
iirc her apartment is in the harpy nests, forget exactly where tho
 

CaptainBipto

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I have a question
How do you get to Helena's apartment and how do you get to fuck her?
I completed her quest to set up her shop but I don't remember what I'm supposed to do next
Unless you use the cheat menu to rewind the days from Saturday (after your date) back to Friday, you are probably going to spend a month or so in-game before you can bone her.

Once you finished her romance quest to reopen that slave shop, you can meet with her on Fridays, between 5pm and 8pm (maybe 9pm) and ask her out on a date.
You, also, need to get your affection up with Scarlet, can't remember how much maybe friendly/caring. When you are finally at the level of affection to slip some meat in Helena, you need Scarlet to 'prep' her apartment with some things you have to buy (Roses and such).

You have to get Helena's affection up before you can any action from her, start with some french kissing, then some light oral action and some titty fucking, and finally you can pop her cherry and make her a cock gobbling slut.
Buy her gifts from the shopping area, skip the teddy bear, she doesn't appreciate it. Talk to her in her store to gain a bit of affection every day. When you are on the dates with her, pander to whatever she is saying and suck up to her to gain affection.
If you completed the Harpy Nest quest, you can get an extra option to suggest that Helena should be queen of the whole nest.
If/when she offers to spend the night, take it, even if there is no sexy times, it boots affection.
 
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