Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Vodka6329]

Shakespeare would not know what a pc even is much less how to make a game

I've always believed that a genius would shine whatever era he'd be in. Like, of course the greatest greek philosophers didn't grew up with internet and shit but given enough time to learn, they'd easily outclass the normal person by a wide margin.

William Shakespeare, if he lived today, would 100% know how to code in python.

 

[72 man]

I've always believed that a genius would shine whatever era he'd be in. Like, of course the greatest greek philosophers didn't grew up with internet and shit but given enough time to learn, they'd easily outclass the normal person by a wide margin.

William Shakespeare, if he lived today, would 100% know how to code in python.

do not know if they could still, will give to you that Shakespeare and greek philosophers and others like them would be masterful shitposters though.

 

[SordidDreams]

Not gonna lie, I would follow the shit out of Diogenes' twitter.

 

[Susan Xandera]

Shakespeare would not know what a pc even is much less how to make a game, also he could hate furrys.

And, again, he'd still do better despite the handicap. Also, now I'm imagining Socrates starting a thread just to have a shit posting fight with Plato just for fun.

 

[Crestrial]

This thread is unreadable. I come back after several years, and you all are still complaining about the same exact shit regarding the developer. While I agree that there were major issues, it never stopped me from enjoying the game. (Edit: I just remembered having trouble with the old java version on linux, so that did actually prevent me from playing for a while.) I understand that some of you have a stronger opinion about this, but can't you see getting upset about it (for years) won't change anything?

If you couldn't spare the time to maintain a fork, then what makes you think working together is going to turn out any better? I've worked on projects where everyone chipped in, but I don't think this is one of them. There's been instances where I felt like I was constantly undoing and redoing others' work and re-configuring the process would have torpedoed the whole project. If you finally convince her to rewrite the game, she might disappear for an entire year and eventually drop the project.

To someone more proficient, it probably seems like no big deal and very easy, but some people are extremely stubborn and wasting your time trying to move them is futile.

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[UdinSlwly]

Can I play it on android?

 

[Infinatious]

Can I play it on android?

Short answer: No

Long answer: You technically can but because this game makes even high end computers freeze up due to how poorly fucking optimized it is you're far better off just not trying.

 

[SouthernHamster]

Any news on the next update?

 

[anubis1970]

Any news on the next update?

Nope. Were you really expecting there to be?

 

[SordidDreams]

You can tell what the latest news is based on the flavor of complaining in this thread. If people are complaining that nothing substantial has been added, the update just dropped. If people are complaining about Inno's work ethic, it's been delayed again. If people are complaining about radio silence, there hasn't been any news for a while. If nobody's complaining, there hasn't been any news for so long that everyone's gone catatonic.

 

[jamasty]

She seems content on just blaming Java itself, rather than blaming her lack of Java understanding. There is a reason Java is used in high end projects like Chemistry software, it's really good at managing data.

Honestly, the very first thing I don't get about her architecture is why it even uses nested Javascript, I mean the whole Webview thing.
I'm trying to make my own prototype of the game in this genre, and after experimenting with JavaFX I understood that this approach of JavaFX Webview by mixing Java and HTML/Javascript is weird imo. Like, if you wanna use html/js stack as they do, then do everything in js/ts, maybe with any suitable framework, and deploy either directly in the browser or as an app with Electron.
Otherwise, there are a couple of libraries for Java for game development. For example, there's FXGL, a superset of JavaFX designed to make games. Or the one I use, LibGDX, which I think is so good compared to plain Java/JavaFX as it has many community libraries, like a couple of ECS libraries, and cool libs for text formatting.

Don't get me wrong, they can choose whatever architecture design they wish, it's totally up to them, but when I simply tried to run a debugger to see how the game works, I was a little confused, and then after I saw that most classes thousands of lines, and some are 10k+, like GameCharacter a 30k, I got even more confused - how do they even navigate over all of that... maintaining such code base is probably uneasy thing to do ngl.

 

[Saint Peverell]

Is there a way to use the debugger to find my children?

 

[GammaXai]

Is there a way to use the debugger to find my children?

I don't know about the debugger but there is an offspring map key item at cityhall to spawn them on demand in alley squares.

 

[JohnVans]

Does anyone know where I can find all the mods or a specific site for mods?

 

[GammaXai]

Does anyone know where I can find all the mods or a specific site for mods?

Primarily on the discord, I think some of the largest authors have google drive folders.

 

[Leozinhe]

have any mods that creates or replaces all female/futa to male characters? or anything similar?

 

[Axvz]

have any mods that creates or replaces all female/futa to male characters? or anything similar?

You can't change special characters. At least, not without unexpected issues. Everyone else can be changed in content settings.

 

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[PonyWarrior]

Honestly, the very first thing I don't get about her architecture is why it even uses nested Javascript, I mean the whole Webview thing.
I'm trying to make my own prototype of the game in this genre, and after experimenting with JavaFX I understood that this approach of JavaFX Webview by mixing Java and HTML/Javascript is weird imo. Like, if you wanna use html/js stack as they do, then do everything in js/ts, maybe with any suitable framework, and deploy either directly in the browser or as an app with Electron.
Otherwise, there are a couple of libraries for Java for game development. For example, there's FXGL, a superset of JavaFX designed to make games. Or the one I use, LibGDX, which I think is so good compared to plain Java/JavaFX as it has many community libraries, like a couple of ECS libraries, and cool libs for text formatting.

Don't get me wrong, they can choose whatever architecture design they wish, it's totally up to them, but when I simply tried to run a debugger to see how the game works, I was a little confused, and then after I saw that most classes thousands of lines, and some are 10k+, like GameCharacter a 30k, I got even more confused - how do they even navigate over all of that... maintaining such code base is probably uneasy thing to do ngl.

Yeah agree with everything you said. I've cloned the git repository with all the source code of the game and built it locally, so that I could modify things not accessible by mods. And boy is it hard to navigate the codebase! I even had to disable the Java language server in vscode as it was using 100% of my CPU (14th gen i9 with 64gb of RAM) constantly, just trying to load the thing.

I have no idea how the developer works on the game. Some classes are 30k lines long like you said, and there's commented out code everywhere. Also I don't understand why hardcoded strings are used a majority of the time, even though they have an XML tag system set up, which they use sometimes.

I managed to change what I wanted to, but I can't imagine working on this project. This feels like a textbook example of technical debt to me, I hope the developer has a good plan in mind for the future, as I like the game and it'd be sad to see it abandoned.

 

[Simp Cattu]

I'm gonna release these 3 lines of code that I've been working on for the past weeks no matter which state it's in

2 months later...

Sorry everyone, I accidentally thought of some new features that nobody cares about, got side-tracked, and now that it has just started, I don't feel comfortable delivering it to you guys yet, who would have known. Please wait for me a few more months while I sort out these who-knows-how-many mundane details to keep the subscriptions flowing.

Thank you once again for your patience and support, and I will see you again soon on another apology post.