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seismyth

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To each their own, everyone gets angry when certain things get removed or added but at the same time this environment has a lot of people with tastes of different types as well in kikiness too. If pale grass can navigate through it and push out good content he's done his job. But if he wants to play it safe, he's probably going to be rethinking certain parts or aspects he had planned for the game with minor tweaks to avoid getting in trouble. Its just the nature of the environment in which creators and developers are adjusting to the challenges and changes being placed on them.
 
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seismyth

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I wasn't even a fan of the Rat boy Paul but it should be there for those who were his fans I think.
Every character gave something to the story. Paul was annoying but it made the story believable with dirty twist and theme as people tend to be very manipulative in that age group actually in most age groups. Dunca added a different twist to the story that explored other aspects of life too. Both had their appeals in a way that contributed to keeping the story too bland and allowed for more areas of exploitation and exploration to occur or be possible too. Pale grass might have something in store to replace those characters or redevelop them into characters that fit into the story with a twist or not that's up to him.
 

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Sorry to see the Paul/Duncan plotlines getting axed TBH.

For me this will definitely knock the game down a notch as one of it's biggest draws for me was the inclusion of a bit of content for all tastes and the fact said content was purely optional. Without the darker material it will be just left with the NTR/Futa/Lesbian/Interracial plotlines and two of those are not things I enjoy.

Anyway, Thanks for the great memories PG and GL bud.
 

Wirwawlp

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Not a fan of the Paul path he's just so annoying so I'm not that concerned. I liked the Mac&Dees Duncan scene though so it's a shame that it's going to be removed.. I hope I'm wrong into thinking that because of this hoopla, we might not get any update until next year. REALLY hoping I'm wrong. Lisa is my favorite out of all the adult games I've played so far..so It's going to be a bummer if we don't get any update for a long while.. PG please prove me wrong.
 
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PaleGrass

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Hi everyone, I'm just replying to the last two pages here so I'm sorry if I missed you. Given the recent development I just wanted to pop in a give my two cents x

It is snowflake society....

Porn has always been about breaking rules (religion, history, politic etc).

Now the so called artist are domesticated dogs, lead by tech censorship.

If you don't break the rules you are part of the problem.


There were always politicians, priests or other shit that tried to stop porn.
. But guess what.... In Italy in the 80s were filming porn in the churches despite Vatican and local laws.

This means own it
I don't necessarily disagree with you mate but I'm not willing to break the law to produce porn, as harsh as that sounds :(

There are certainly things worth fighting for in life but this doesn't feel terribly high up the priority list x

I hope this doesn't come across as rude because that's genuinely not my intention here.


now i am really worried about the riggs and darker routes in the story when tony comes,Is palegrass gonna compromise the sex scenes of darker paths in the future for the sake of this legal issue...dude this really blocks the creative freedom in this medium,mahn i have been waiting to see lisa 's RISE after her major downfall,now i think its just gonna be some hardcore violent scenes(ya ya those vanilla stuffs as in other games) without the pulse in it!!

fuck fuck fuck fuck the system yo!we really need to find some way though!
The only content that's being cut is sexual content with Paul & Duncan. Everything else will remain the same x


Because it is the way it is.

In fact, I still don’t quite understand what he is talking about (the one that talking about law and responsibility). At the moment there is a lot of content, that is many times "darker" than such story from “moral” point of view and content lives in free access and no one doing anything with that... hmm now it's making more sense, but still kind of unsure.

Still, I think your "patch" idea looks workable, but let's say it's not patch, but just "unofficial mod by some other artist" (who made it for his own pleasure, and not out of desire to get money from it), go then prove it's not true :p

ps. To be honest, I'm upset in first place precisely because I was really interested in how author was going to shape continuation of these routes while maintaining balance I mentioned earlier.
I won't continue producing any content with Paul or sexual content with Duncan even under the guise of another releasing it x


While he mentioned Mega in passing in his post, if you look more closely, you can see that the point he stresses is the law, and he mentions that creating and distributing are treated differently than possession.
^ This is correct.

For anyone unsure; where I live it is illegal to produce pornographic content depicting non-consensual sex. This is why Paul & Duncan's routes are being removed.


A rebranding of Duncan's Character and when Lisa would be slutty enough for these two to be involved in a sexual manner, (unfortunately no in an too extreme manner ) but dark enough for the narrative of the game ( enough for Palegrass to be not worried about his country's law ) not take a huge hit.
I don't imagine any new users will think anything's missing. Paul & Duncan were entirely optional routes x


UK law is not against adult games or adult content, (I live UK) PG is able to still create and continue with his game, there is two issues here, one issue, the law in the UK is the also the same in the USA for adult entertainment, in the USA and UK it's illegal for Sextortion or Blackmail, but, that is for real life and online social platforms and is totally different for entertainment purpose such as a games, movies or tv shows, both UK and USA adult laws are the same

The other thing is how Mega notified PG, the links may have been reported as containing illegal content and PG is worried as they (Mega) "notify the legal services" this is what I think PG is more worried about and is changing his game to be on the safe side for him, but, he has nothing to worry about as the police will only act on a report if there is actual real evidence, PG has nothing to worry about, but, he wants to be on the safe side
It's legal in the USA, apparently some have tried over the years to criminalize it but the first amendment has reigned victorious thus far. It's illegal to produce anything that could be deemed pornographic in this nature in the UK. I read extensively into it after Mega tossed my details to the "authorities."

It's a horrible situation and I hate not having a winning path out but like you say; I have to play it safe.


Who was Duncan? I can't remember, I'm bad with names.
He's the only character perhaps more despicable than Paul lol (he's still in the game, you'll see him soon)


So this will be the last "Uncensored" version of Lisa?????
That has an awful ring to it, no like, no like lol


I don't think it matters what the Laws in the UK and USA in relation to porn say man. The Feminists and Wokists are equally rabid in both places. They might be even more rabid in the UK as the Feminists and Wokists are closing down Bank Accounts if they dont like the Customers views on sexuality and not even informing the Customer that they are doing so. TRUE!!! As you know if you arent filthy rich then you are well fucked as you cant afford the greedy Legal rapists.
I don't know what inspired the change in the law but it was amended in 2015; I was just ignorant to it until recently x


Weren't these characters primarily in optional routes? How important could it have been?
Well they're important to some and that's important to me x

I've received a lot a really lovely messages offering me condolences for the loss of time spent where that really isn't my concern. It's the thought of letting those that have followed me for a long time down that is the greater burden x


Exactly, yes the rest of the story is gradually gonna get darker but there are different ways to show that other than outright sexual violence.
I doubt the game was gonna go hard in the direction those two routes went, otherwise they wouldn't have been optional with big disclaimers.
This is the silver lining if any at all. They are a small portion of the overall product and the rest remains completely unchanged x


But yes, the optional paths with Duncan and Paul can be skipped without changing the central and essential plot points of the story. That doesn't change the fact that, for myself and a lot of other people who care about freedom of expression and artistic freedom, this is a big deal.
^ Yeah

Again, I don't fully understand the reason for these laws. It's almost like banning violent video games because "the law" thinks they cause people to become violent.


Sad this will become like any other vanilla game with no edge to it. Wish you could just change some writing in Duncan path but at the end of the day it is your game. I hope for the best for the future releases.
I hope that it will be something other than a vanilla game even with these two routes gone x

Can't we just propose to turn that retard whos only success in his life to report others for the most useless reasons into some garbage character in the game which Lisa can break and dominate in the most sadistic ways (evil grin).
Of course if the so called "LAW" even allows that.
Well in another world I never got reported to Mega and instead have a squad car outside my house. It might well have been a blessing in disguise, who knows x


Paul's route can be redone in a way that hides it in plain sight. Paul could say find her under the influence of a said drug or drunk and hook up with her. There's ways to keep both routes but you'd have to re-adjust or rebuild then in such a way that allows for certain aspects to be incorporated. Lisa's dislike for Paul could be the way she disguises her need for exploration of her darker side of sex. While the other person can be her having Daddy issues and exploring the option of seeking attention of older men. It all depends on how it will impact the evolution of Lisa and how pale grass might consider bringing it back in a way that implements similar or parallel elements to the story itself. There's room for it, just depends on the method and implementation of it
I considered this but there's an event in the canon story that sort of disables this. Lisa doesn't live with Sharon for the entire game and I feel the ground work for a situation like this to become plausible would take too long and there just isn't enough time x


Yo ,yo wtf happened here ?
I did not visit the thread for a very long time because of my exams
What is all this bullshit about laws,police and stuff ??
-I was reported to Mega
-Mega banned my account and forwarded my details to the authorities
-I read the laws and realized the content I've been producing is illegal in my country
-Paul & Duncan's sexual content is being removed from the game

Hope your exams went well mate! x


Most people on the planet have those dark, rough, and kinky fantasies. Everyone needs that type of release once in a while, and that can be exercised through the medium of fiction. This political correctness crap is literally ruining the freedom for artistic creativity.:cautious::cry:

Cheers
I feel the same mate x


Pale grass might have something in store to replace those characters or redevelop them into characters that fit into the story with a twist or not that's up to him.
Sadly I don't have any ideas on how to redevelop Paul and that's why he's actually being removed from the game entirely. There's no world in which Lisa has sexual relations with him consensually so there isn't any point in him staying. Duncan is a mainstay and will see some amount of screen time in the latter half of the game but he won't be involved in any sexual content so the game will play out as if the player simply opted out of his route x


Sorry to see the Paul/Duncan plotlines getting axed TBH.

For me this will definitely knock the game down a notch as one of it's biggest draws for me was the inclusion of a bit of content for all tastes and the fact said content was purely optional. Without the darker material it will be just left with the NTR/Futa/Lesbian/Interracial plotlines and two of those are not things I enjoy.

Anyway, Thanks for the great memories PG and GL bud.
Yeah, I'm sorry mate. To everyone I really am sorry. I hate this whole situation, it's really, really shit.

Bless you mate and thanks for always helping out others in the thread x


Not a fan of the Paul path he's just so annoying so I'm not that concerned. I liked the Mac&Dees Duncan scene though so it's a shame that it's going to be removed.. I hope I'm wrong into thinking that because of this hoopla, we might not get any update until next year. REALLY hoping I'm wrong. Lisa is my favorite out of all the adult games I've played so far..so It's going to be a bummer if we don't get any update for a long while.. PG please prove me wrong.
Aw no man there will still be updates, I'm fixing old CGs and dialogues atm to represent Paul's absence but to be honest I'm really all over the place. It's wild how much this whole situation has fucked with my head.

Anyway; the updates will still be the same 3month~ releases after I get everything in order x

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Sorry if you were a page before 386 and I didn't respond. It's a crap post and a crappy situation. I dunno how best to convey my apology to anyone and everyone who played Lisa for the cut style of content. It really wasn't an easy decision nor was it one I wanted to make but I hope you can understand that I can't risk a criminal conviction for a porn game even if the chance is slim x

Have a lovely weekend everyone <3
 

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Hi everyone, I'm just replying to the last two pages here so I'm sorry if I missed you. Given the recent development I just wanted to pop in a give my two cents x



I don't necessarily disagree with you mate but I'm not willing to break the law to produce porn, as harsh as that sounds :(

There are certainly things worth fighting for in life but this doesn't feel terribly high up the priority list x

I hope this doesn't come across as rude because that's genuinely not my intention here.




The only content that's being cut is sexual content with Paul & Duncan. Everything else will remain the same x




I won't continue producing any content with Paul or sexual content with Duncan even under the guise of another releasing it x




^ This is correct.

For anyone unsure; where I live it is illegal to produce pornographic content depicting non-consensual sex. This is why Paul & Duncan's routes are being removed.




I don't imagine any new users will think anything's missing. Paul & Duncan were entirely optional routes x




It's legal in the USA, apparently some have tried over the years to criminalize it but the first amendment has reigned victorious thus far. It's illegal to produce anything that could be deemed pornographic in this nature in the UK. I read extensively into it after Mega tossed my details to the "authorities."

It's a horrible situation and I hate not having a winning path out but like you say; I have to play it safe.




He's the only character perhaps more despicable than Paul lol (he's still in the game, you'll see him soon)




That has an awful ring to it, no like, no like lol




I don't know what inspired the change in the law but it was amended in 2015; I was just ignorant to it until recently x




Well they're important to some and that's important to me x

I've received a lot a really lovely messages offering me condolences for the loss of time spent where that really isn't my concern. It's the thought of letting those that have followed me for a long time down that is the greater burden x




This is the silver lining if any at all. They are a small portion of the overall product and the rest remains completely unchanged x




^ Yeah

Again, I don't fully understand the reason for these laws. It's almost like banning violent video games because "the law" thinks they cause people to become violent.




I hope that it will be something other than a vanilla game even with these two routes gone x



Well in another world I never got reported to Mega and instead have a squad car outside my house. It might well have been a blessing in disguise, who knows x




I considered this but there's an event in the canon story that sort of disables this. Lisa doesn't live with Sharon for the entire game and I feel the ground work for a situation like this to become plausible would take too long and there just isn't enough time x




-I was reported to Mega
-Mega banned my account and forwarded my details to the authorities
-I read the laws and realized the content I've been producing is illegal in my country
-Paul & Duncan's sexual content is being removed from the game

Hope your exams went well mate! x




I feel the same mate x




Sadly I don't have any ideas on how to redevelop Paul and that's why he's actually being removed from the game entirely. There's no world in which Lisa has sexual relations with him consensually so there isn't any point in him staying. Duncan is a mainstay and will see some amount of screen time in the latter half of the game but he won't be involved in any sexual content so the game will play out as if the player simply opted out of his route x




Yeah, I'm sorry mate. To everyone I really am sorry. I hate this whole situation, it's really, really shit.

Bless you mate and thanks for always helping out others in the thread x




Aw no man there will still be updates, I'm fixing old CGs and dialogues atm to represent Paul's absence but to be honest I'm really all over the place. It's wild how much this whole situation has fucked with my head.

Anyway; the updates will still be the same 3month~ releases after I get everything in order x

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Sorry if you were a page before 386 and I didn't respond. It's a crap post and a crappy situation. I dunno how best to convey my apology to anyone and everyone who played Lisa for the cut style of content. It really wasn't an easy decision nor was it one I wanted to make but I hope you can understand that I can't risk a criminal conviction for a porn game even if the chance is slim x

Have a lovely weekend everyone <3
a 9.9 sgpa is good i guess ?? lol
remember the bdsm content comments i made which u bookmarked ??
will those be removed also since it might be illegal like blackmail ??
i don't the laws
anyways best of luck for the games
i will still support u even if its a vanilla romance game (y):giggle:
 

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I was reported to Mega
-Mega banned my account and forwarded my details to the authorities
-I read the laws and realized the content I've been producing is illegal in my country
-Paul & Duncan's sexual content is being removed from the game

Hope your exams went well mate! x
I have seen much worse things that are promoted nowadays, and I am pretty sure they are not banned in your country...even the one making those dumb laws might be into those very disgusting dirty shi*, because you can see it in every other country with many politicians implicated
 
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I have seen much worse things that are promoted nowadays, and I am pretty sure they are not banned in your country...even the one making those dumb laws might be into those very disgusting dirty shi*, because you can see it in every other country with many politicians implicated
The laws in UK and US is much better than india here we can't even publish pornographic content we can only watch it.
 
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Cabin

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The laws in UK and US is much better than india here we can't even publish pornographic content we can only watch it.
Actually in india porn is still producable and accessible to watch if u use service providers that are not native to India
Vodafone and airtel wifis do support almost every porn website
And there are modded version of those websites if u want to use mobile data without *cough* alerting authorities
 

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Which VPN can be used for torrent.
Translated: provide a good bandwidth?

Open-source.. I am not sure, we should check who is the private owner of that service...
 

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Which VPN can be used for torrent.
Translated: provide a good bandwidth?

Open-source.. I am not sure, we should check who is the private owner of that service...
Don't go for Open source. I myself am using Surfshark. It's pretty good and maintains high bandwidth. It's cheap as well.

Cheers. :cool: :cool:
 
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Sadly I don't have any ideas on how to redevelop Paul and that's why he's actually being removed from the game entirely. There's no world in which Lisa has sexual relations with him consensually so there isn't any point in him staying. Duncan is a mainstay and will see some amount of screen time in the latter half of the game but he won't be involved in any sexual content so the game will play out as if the player simply opted out of his route x
I dont much care for paul but you could make paul have an accident where he loses his memory and build the relationship with lisa from zero. That way he stays in the game and people still get lisa and paul sex scenes. Idk im just spitballing here lol
 

Alea iacta est

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Tech control and censorship is the challenge for this and next decades..

Please be aware of it, and learn how to counter it.
 

TheLecher

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Well, well, Well, so I asked AI to make LISA hyper-realistic.

And.................

From this:

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To:
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Cheers :p :p :cool: :cool:
I very much prefer the version rendered in Daz by PaleGrass. But it's cool that you're having fun playing around with it.

I dont much care for paul but you could make paul have an accident where he loses his memory and build the relationship with lisa from zero. That way he stays in the game and people still get lisa and paul sex scenes. Idk im just spitballing here lol
As far as I can tell, all of the people in the thread who want Paul to stay in the game (myself, for example) want him specifically for the blackmail content which is currently in the game, so I don't know who would be served by this idea.
 
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