RPGM Lisa [v3.2.5] [PaleGrass]

[Fillup1]

It's freedom of speech and expression hill. I don't know what's so weird about it.

Supposedly that should be a West thing, but I guess your slave instinct matured enough, so you can be part of some kind of Panem and serve the regime well.

No, that's a weak attempt to rationalise your feelings.

This isn't a freedom of speech matter as the subject gets handled often enough in other media, albeit handled more delicately. I'm not a dummy and I realise that there's plenty of other content available here on the matter, but if you're that bent out of shape about a rape fantasy going unfulfilled, seek help. This game isn't worse for having lost it.

 

[golemon11]

No, that's a weak attempt to rationalise your feelings.

This isn't a freedom of speech matter as the subject gets handled often enough in other media, albeit handled more delicately. I'm not a dummy and I realise that there's plenty of other content available here on the matter, but if you're that bent out of shape about a rape fantasy going unfulfilled, seek help. This game isn't worse for having lost it.

The game has gotten worse

 

[whoabacha]

The game has gotten worse

No, no it hasn't.

 

[CutieLvr]

Ummm Did you happen to read the yellow line of text in the post you quoted?

It's pretty clear...

[New update will come out once the Jayce Party event is finished! (Not finished in v3.2.5 of RPGM ) ]

Didn't know how long ago it was posted and life happens. Sheeze.

 

[CutieLvr]

The game has gotten worse

You're entitled to your opinion, but I for one disagree strongly.

 

[redharvest1]

Didn't know how long ago it was posted and life happens. Sheeze.

It literally says " Not finished in v3.2.5 of RPGM " which if you look at the thread header is the most recent version of the game...

 

[paleGrass]

For the upteenth time... YES it's been removed. The last version of the Ren'py version still has that content though as updates to that version are on hold until after the party event is completed.

God bless soldier o7

I'm playing this game entirely in my language and loving the lore.

However, based on some comments and screenshots,
apparently this game is taking the same path as a certain other game that focuses on racism against white people.

I hope this game doesn't have the same outcome because the writing is too good to take this path of unhealthy fetishism.

Out of curiosity, what comments and screenshots make you think the game is racist against white folks mate? xD

Will this bring back Paul, the tavern scene and maybe more?

No mate, the extreme pornography laws remain unchanged. I'm as surprised as you are that they wouldn't rewrite them after seeing my site though! ^_^

Guys, I think your disagreement stems from confusion about what the penalty would be for creating and/or possessing this content. It likely wouldn't be a "jail" matter (obviously creating, publishing and distributing actual, real SAM would be a much more serious offence), instead a court would much more likely order the destruction of all game assets.

Therefore, the material was created, it was not compliant with the law, and so by removing it the game is compliant with the law again and no further action is required.

^ This is exactly correct ^

Im playing at the game again and I was wondering if there will be some romance/route between Lisa and Theo because there was some good tension between them when she wanted to defend Aiofe and he kind of hot so it would be so great to have some sex scenes between them because there is so much potential so pleaseeee PaleGrass

There will be optional sexual content with Theo but it will be somewhat detached and infrequent compared to most "routes" in the game. Theo will be in and out of the game over time so it's difficult to write one consistent route to run alongside the main plot as he's obviously directly involved with it. I should also note that it isn't a romance per say, it'll be almost entirely physical. This is another section of the game's myriad routes that actually starts in this 3.X.X development cycle.

GAME IS TOO BIG ^_^

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Okay hang on, I'm gonna write a post answering the previous page's queries regarding removed routes and pin it to the OP just to clear it up once and for all x

 

[paleGrass]

Regarding removed routes:

The legality of the content removed.

Neither route fell squarely into the category of "illegal" because they didn't involve minors nor did they include any real people which are very obvious and provable legal outlines. Instead it falls into this grey area of "photorealistic" or "pseudo-photograph" in regards to non-consensual intercourse which is also outlawed.

This is where I just don't trust the Government because by what metric is photorealism defined exactly?
It isn't.
The characters in my game certainly couldn't be mistaken for "real people" by any reasonable person but frankly I don't want to take the chance of an unreasonable person being handed a case with my name on it.
They are intentionally obtuse about what this means to avoid loopholes but it also leaves the law up to interpretation.


You've already created it, can't you still get in trouble?

No. I no longer create, promote or sell it. I cannot be prosecuted for something I no longer possess or distribute. If old builds of the game with this content are still distributed online then the person who uploaded or hosts it is now the distributor. Not me. The law is focused on material at the time it occurs, it will not retroactively seek to charge me if I was in violation years after I removed and destroyed any trace of it from my own hosts.
Any legal exposure I had ended the second I stopped distributing the content and the fact that the content was removed for the purpose of compliance would eliminate any prosecutorial interest anyway.


Can't you create it and have someone abroad distribute it?

No. I will not create, distribute or be in any way involved with works that could even be remotely construed as a breach of law because supplying the content with the intention of someone else distributing it lands me right back under the distributor umbrella. There is no proxy uploader "loophole.” That's not how liability works.
And yes, this also applies even if the uploader is in another country. I just won't do it. I'm not sure how aware you are of the current state of things here in the British Isles but calling it bleak would be an understatement in regards to censorship. Not in that your accounts get banned. No, the state will arrest and convict you for things you wouldn't even look twice at a few years ago and they do this by stretching the law; misinterpreting it. I do not trust that they wouldn't do the same in this instance when referencing the "photorealism" of the game's imagery.


The decision to remove the content:

Paul was removed, Duncan's content changed and with these two cuts I lost over half of the game's supporters.
I didn't choose this path lightly. It cost me the ability to quit my job and work on Lisa full-time.
However the other option carried a risk and the most extreme version of that risk was criminal conviction.
My Mother is old and she's on her own. She was recently diagnosed with melanoma. If the worst were to happen and I landed in prison, I don't know what would happen to her and that terrifies me.

Even if the chance of conviction via continuation of Paul & Duncan's content was only <0.01%, that's still not a risk I'm willing to take.


What was lost:

Paul was the casualty of the removal. He was scrubbed from the game entirely. Duncan had a single scene removed but he remains in the game regardless. Duncan's content was adjusted to conform to legal standard but that adjustment wasn't as extreme as you may think.
Nothing else in the game changed. Not in the present and not in the future.


Redistribution without my involvement:

I can't realistically stop anyone from redistributing the removed scenes or creating new scenes via mods but I am trying to estrange myself from these removed elements of the project. They exist in previous versions of the game and that's where they will stay. I would however kindly ask that if anyone is planning on continuing the removed routes - please don't post it here. 2023 was a truly awful year and this Paul & Duncan nightmare haunts me still, reminding me of my thought patterns and how desperately miserable I was during this entire period.

I don't want this thread to be a constant site of mourning. I've mourned enough and I just want to move on.

I hope you understand.

 

[golemon11]

Regarding removed routes:

The legality of the content removed.

Neither route fell squarely into the category of "illegal" because they didn't involve minors nor did they include any real people which are very obvious and provable legal outlines. Instead it falls into this grey area of "photorealistic" or "pseudo-photograph" in regards to non-consensual intercourse which is also outlawed.

This is where I just don't trust the Government because by what metric is photorealism defined exactly?
It isn't.
The characters in my game certainly couldn't be mistaken for "real people" by any reasonable person but frankly I don't want to take the chance of an unreasonable person being handed a case with my name on it.
They are intentionally obtuse about what this means to avoid loopholes but it also leaves the law up to interpretation.


You've already created it, can't you still get in trouble?

No. I no longer create, promote or sell it. I cannot be prosecuted for something I no longer possess or distribute. If old builds of the game with this content are still distributed online then the person who uploaded or hosts it is now the distributor. Not me. The law is focused on material at the time it occurs, it will not retroactively seek to charge me if I was in violation years after I removed and destroyed any trace of it from my own hosts.
Any legal exposure I had ended the second I stopped distributing the content and the fact that the content was removed for the purpose of compliance would eliminate any prosecutorial interest anyway.


Can't you create it and have someone abroad distribute it?

No. I will not create, distribute or be in any way involved with works that could even be remotely construed as a breach of law because supplying the content with the intention of someone else distributing it lands me right back under the distributor umbrella. There is no proxy uploader "loophole.” That's not how liability works.
And yes, this also applies even if the uploader is in another country. I just won't do it. I'm not sure how aware you are of the current state of things here in the British Isles but calling it bleak would be an understatement in regards to censorship. Not in that your accounts get banned. No, the state will arrest and convict you for things you wouldn't even look twice at a few years ago and they do this by stretching the law; misinterpreting it. I do not trust that they wouldn't do the same in this instance when referencing the "photorealism" of the game's imagery.


The decision to remove the content:

Paul was removed, Duncan's content changed and with these two cuts I lost over half of the game's supporters.
I didn't choose this path lightly. It cost me the ability to quit my job and work on Lisa full-time.
However the other option carried a risk and the most extreme version of that risk was criminal conviction.
My Mother is old and she's on her own. She was recently diagnosed with melanoma. If the worst were to happen and I landed in prison, I don't know what would happen to her and that terrifies me.

Even if the chance of conviction via continuation of Paul & Duncan's content was only <0.01%, that's still not a risk I'm willing to take.


What was lost:

Paul was the casualty of the removal. He was scrubbed from the game entirely. Duncan had a single scene removed but he remains in the game regardless. Duncan's content was adjusted to conform to legal standard but that adjustment wasn't as extreme as you may think.
Nothing else in the game changed. Not in the present and not in the future.


Redistribution without my involvement:

I can't realistically stop anyone from redistributing the removed scenes or creating new scenes via mods but I am trying to estrange myself from these removed elements of the project. They exist in previous versions of the game and that's where they will stay. I would however kindly ask that if anyone is planning on continuing the removed routes - please don't post it here. 2023 was a truly awful year and this Paul & Duncan nightmare haunts me still, reminding me of my thought patterns and how desperately miserable I was during this entire period.

I don't want this thread to be a constant site of mourning. I've mourned enough and I just want to move on.

I hope you understand.

You did the right thing. Yes, the game really did become less provocative and, as a result, less “hot.” But I know that feeling all too well myself: I once came close to facing criminal charges — I let a friend “use” my bank card, and it nearly got me criminally charged.

Nothing compares to the feeling of freedom when you no longer expect the future to stab you in the back. When it finally appears in front of you — calm, steady — and you can wake up without anxiety.

 

[hilona12]

There will be optional sexual content with Theo but it will be somewhat detached and infrequent compared to most "routes" in the game. Theo will be in and out of the game over time so it's difficult to write one consistent route to run alongside the main plot as he's obviously directly involved with it. I should also note that it isn't a romance per say, it'll be almost entirely physical. This is another section of the game's myriad routes that actually starts in this 3.X.X development cycle.

GAME IS TOO BIG ^_^
[/QUOTE]

Thank you for answering, I understand about the route, an interaction between them would still be great. there is not many man in games like that who are actually decent looking so when there are its cool to have some scenes with them. woman in games are always good looking compared to man and for woman like me who like to play theses games its hard to find a good one so thank you for that ! (also little femdom would be great at some point or switch) good luck for your great game paleGrass

 

[SizeQueenShrine]

Redistribution without my involvement:

I can't realistically stop anyone from redistributing the removed scenes or creating new scenes via mods but I am trying to estrange myself from these removed elements of the project. They exist in previous versions of the game and that's where they will stay. I would however kindly ask that if anyone is planning on continuing the removed routes - please don't post it here. 2023 was a truly awful year and this Paul & Duncan nightmare haunts me still, reminding me of my thought patterns and how desperately miserable I was during this entire period.

I don't want this thread to be a constant site of mourning. I've mourned enough and I just want to move on.

I hope you understand.

Fair play.

No, that's a weak attempt to rationalise your feelings.

And what feelings exactly you've got in mind here, Mr Pop-Psychologist?

This isn't a freedom of speech matter as the subject gets handled often enough in other media, albeit handled more delicately.

Yes, it is matter of freedom of speech. You're just trying to frame it otherwise, I just can't fathom for what reason.

I'm not a dummy and I realise that there's plenty of other content available here on the matter, but if you're that bent out of shape about a rape fantasy going unfulfilled, seek help. This game isn't worse for having lost it.

In bigger picture it doesn't matter if the game is better or worse for having lost it. What matters is that the law enforcement infringes author's creative freedom to fabricate fiction.

In my book everybody has a right to be another Marquis de Sade and create libertine stories, break any social taboos in them, if one wants. Freedom of speech, if truly upheld by society, should cover our ass completely from any law entanglements. And that's not, because I'm a big fan of S&M, scat play or I like other extreme stuff myself. I'm just against taking custody of adults and creating for them umbrella safe spaces, as that prolongs their immaturity.

So if Palegrass would have wanted to turn "Lisa" into another "Justine, or The Misfortunes of Virtue" or "The 120 Days of Sodom" , that's his call and nobody should bother him for how he wants to tell his stories and what message his stories will send. Capisce?

But no, welcome to the world of kidults, where nanny state needs to raise till they fucking die and keep watchful eye if they won't harm themselves, I guess.

If you want to experiment with darker parts of human experience and do it through fiction, go ahead. If you demoralize yourself it's mostly your own responsibility, not your daily care manager overlord's.

I like repressive law that punishes wrongdoers after they you really do something, not preventive kind of one, that will take a toll on whole society. Risk avoidance in West trumps personal freedom and that shit is getting so tiring and achieves nothing but destroys characters and personal agency.

Not all sins should be automatically crimes, ffs.

I'm not sure how aware you are of the current state of things here in the British Isles but calling it bleak would be an understatement in regards to censorship. Not in that your accounts get banned. No, the state will arrest and convict you for things you wouldn't even look twice at a few years ago and they do this by stretching the law; misinterpreting it. I do not trust that they wouldn't do the same in this instance when referencing the "photorealism" of the game's imagery.

Thank you for stating that.

To be honest, what is more disturbing EU legislature goes in similar direction in many other areas. Check it out:

You must be registered to see the links

 

[Fillup1]

Fair play.


And what feelings exactly you've got in mind here, Mr Pop-Psychologist?


Yes, it is matter of freedom of speech. You're just trying to frame it otherwise, I just can't fathom for what reason.

In bigger picture it doesn't matter if the game is better or worse for having lost it. What matters is that the law enforcement infringes author's creative freedom to fabricate fiction.

In my book everybody has a right to be another Marquis de Sade and create libertine stories, break any social taboos in them, if one wants. Freedom of speech, if truly upheld by society, should cover our ass completely from any law entanglements. And that's not, because I'm a big fan of S&M, scat play or I like other extreme stuff myself. I'm just against taking custody of adults and creating for them umbrella safe spaces, as that prolongs their immaturity.

So if Palegrass would have wanted to turn "Lisa" into another "Justine, or The Misfortunes of Virtue" or "The 120 Days of Sodom" , that's his call and nobody should bother him for how he wants to tell his stories and what message his stories will send. Capisce?

But no, welcome to the world of kidults, where nanny state needs to raise till they fucking die and keep watchful eye if they won't harm themselves, I guess.

If you want to experiment with darker parts of human experience and do it through fiction, go ahead. If you demoralize yourself it's mostly your own responsibility, not your daily care manager overlord's.

I like repressive law that punishes wrongdoers after they you really do something, not preventive kind of one, that will take a toll on whole society. Risk avoidance in West trumps personal freedom and that shit is getting so tiring and achieves nothing but destroys characters and personal agency.

Not all sins should be automatically crimes, ffs.

Thank you for stating that.

To be honest, what is more disturbing EU legislature goes in similar direction in many other areas. Check it out:

You must be registered to see the links

Play whatever you want, but this isn't even close to "nanny state" stuff. Next you'll be complaining about freedom of speech restrictions on Breaking Bad because they never actually showed the full synthesis of meth.

Not all sins are crimes, either. Adultery is a sin, for example, but there are only a handful of jurisdictions where it's actually illegal. There's a world of different though between that and fighting for the unfiltering and (for some games) glorification of sexual violence. The idea of going to bat for that is fucking absurd and if that's the side you want to be on and you want to frame it as a freedom of speech issue, you need to have a word with yourself and ask if that's the person you really want to be.

No doubt it's a thing that happens IRL and it's a subject that our media and art should definitely should be taking on, but there's a tactful way of doing that, it shouldn't ever be left open to interpretation that it isn't among the most despicable things a person could ever do to another human being.

FWIW I've seen the scene and I thought PG nailed that messaging, so personally I wouldn't have seen an issue with leaving it in the final product, but it's absolutely not worth fighting to keep it. If it had been me making this game and I went through all that PG did, I would say "Yeah OK fair enough" and take it out. It's not that deep.

 

[johnnai]

new post?

 

[quency77]

Hi guys, I'm thinking about upscaling the render from 720p to 1080p for RenPy. I want to know what you would prefer. I put 2 versions of the images next to each other, frst one the original and second one the upscaled version.



You can vote for it like this:
= Upscaled version


= Original version

 

[Pjotr2992]

Hi guys, I'm thinking about upscaling the render from 720p to 1080p for RenPy. I want to know what you would prefer. I put 2 versions of the images next to each other, frst one the original and second one the upscaled version.

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You can vote for it like this:
View attachment 5500960 = Upscaled version


View attachment 5500964 = Original version

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[kaifin]

Hi guys, I'm thinking about upscaling the render from 720p to 1080p for RenPy. I want to know what you would prefer. I put 2 versions of the images next to each other, frst one the original and second one the upscaled version.

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You can vote for it like this:
View attachment 5500960 = Upscaled version


View attachment 5500964 = Original version

upscaling is good, i already try to do some upscaling, and stay good too, but paleGrass told game dont suport high resolution =(, so we have to stay with 720p forever =(

 

[HP8464]

Tutor Post: Wesbite and 3.4.0 Scenelist.

3.3.0 Progress:

Solid but I am in the usual stress zone as we approach release but I'm trying to keep my eyes from drifting toward the date too often. IT'S LESS THAN A MONTH TO RELEASE SO YOU KNOW I'M GIGA STRESSED ^_^


This shot was rendered and edited for AI but sadly it didn't work

RIP old Lisa watermark.. :'(
It's been the bread n butter Lisa logo for 5 years now. You will be missed but never forgotten </3

The Website & the Members area:
(None of this is game related, feel free to skip to the next section if you aren't interested in website chatter)

I wish I had the words to explain just how much work it is to get this whole thing running. It's madness. It makes me wonder why they aren't more sites dedicated to membership platforms out there because doing it alone is a nightmare.
When I built the SquareSpace website (the one that's I posted last week), I thought this isn't too bad. It's intuitive. It's easy to make things look good. A nice grid system that makes it user friendly. Everything just works like you'd expect.
But I can't use it to host memberships for the game because my game has pornographic content. This means I need to use a payment processor that accepts more "risk." This isn't risk to you guys, it's business risk in that pornography inherently holds more risk than say painted art or music or something.
Square only hosts a payment processor called Stripe which outrightly states that it won't process payments for pornography. It couldn't be more clear. Therefore I need a second hosted site that can be integrated with an adult friendly payment processor. It can be placed in a sub domain of the public site but it can't be hosted there.
So I had to build another site as a sub domain of palegrass.com (this took me a day to figure out) on a program called Wordpress which is kind of like this big open source playground in which people build websites. It's got a bazillion plugins and features and it seems to be industry standrard however the UI is perhaps the most unintuitive thing on planet Earth and literally nothing works how you'd expect it to. That and it requires two different programming languages to get anything real done being JS and CSS so already I'm sinking in the open sea. On the other hand.. You do have much more freedom in wordpress. If you were a real whiz with web design, I bet they could throw together an amazing site in a matter of hours. But it isn't user friendly for a newbie at all.

You must be registered to see the links

The members website is online but you can only peruse the login screen for now. If you select the "lost password" button you'll see what the default PMPro theme actually looks like as I haven't styled that page yet.
The main site "members login" button will redirect you there though creating accounts is not yet ready. Basically the system will be the exact same as SubStar or Patreon. New posts appear at the top and push the older posts down. You'll need to click on the posts to actually view them which will apply a short fade and open the post - this is to forego any potential lag as hundreds of posts are added and I can't really assure stability like SubStar without doing it this way.

The actual billing will be handled by a company called CCBill. It'll be available all over the world and in almost every major global currency including Bitcoin (though bitcoin cannot be refunded apparently so I'm just forewarning of that). I never see any of your details, that's all handled by CCBill. You make an account on the site with your e-mail, click whatever tier you want (you can be a Free Member too) which then connects to them, they send me a "token" confirming that action has taken place, you log in, the website remembers you and redirects past the login screen, etc, etc. It should feel like a proper business website and not built by some eejit in Ireland knocking stones together until a website appeared.
Your login details are encrypted and held with a second company called PM Pro which is just a membership system that I embed into the site so if you lose your password, you'll reset it through them. I don't have access to any of this.

I'm not leaving SubStar if anyone's curious and I don't even urge you to jump ship or anything like that. The fees that I'm charged by CCBill are basically the exact same as SubStar so if you're concerned about me; it really doesn't matter to me where you are. If you like it here, then that's amazing. I like it here too. I just want to offer the same options to those in Countries that can't access SubStar easily. This was initially why I set up the Boosty account but that ended up being more trouble than it was worth even before I was permanently banned.
What I have seen is that SubStar advertise OAuth links to other websites which could mean that by subbing here, I can, in theory open a link that will grant you access to my website's member area too. There'll be no difference in content or anything like that, it's just a cool feature in case you wanted some eerie graphics along with your update posts lol
Having the freedom to do whatever I want is actually a really fun prospect or it would be if I had a clue what I was doing with wordpress ^_^

I just hope that at least one person uses it. It's cost me a small fortune to get things in place xD

The website is currently functional on the public facing side.
The members side IS actually functional too though with much less precision because it takes a lot more to get that side thematically matched but memberships can be created and used to login and see anything I place there, I just haven't activated it yet.
I can make posts that are restricted to tiers, it's all pleasantly animated. Your accounts will remain even after subscription ends and you can continue to login as a free member, etc. This might seem like trivial stuff but it's a real headache figuring out how to achieve all of this and will require a fair bit of testing just to make sure that no bugs pop up with different links on obscure pages like "confirmation" pages or whatever.
There's a comments section under every post that displays your chosen username and timestamps, you can reply to individual replies or generally to the post itself - I've basically tried to mirror SubStar's format for just about everything.

This website will be an ongoing project with improvements added frequently. When I upload a change, there's no delay to it hitting the servers. It's basically instant which is very nice.
Even the public website will see improvements because I selected a basic package with SquareSpace which actually disables code injection so I can't currently add custom animations to the public website which I'm very displeased with so I will be upgrading that and adding a lot more flair and polish to both the front side and the members area over time.

When I get the members area a little closer to finalization, I'll make it all public so you can have a better look through it and give me feedback (if you want! ^_^) before the billing side of things is added. Things might look a little barebones but that's just because virtually the entire site is built via custom CSS which is alien to me. There are tons of paid plugins that could add much cleaner and easier to work with features but I'm just gonna see how it fares for a few months before I sink anymore money into it.

Anyway it'll be up and running with full functionality soon-ish I hope. It does seem strange that a solo dev has built an entire website to house a payment structure to fund what's essentially a porn game. I've been thinking about the optics of that which is why I mentioned all of the security related stuff. I just want everyone to know that your security is my primary focus here.

If anyone wants to know more about any of the systems I'm using, you can look them up yourself or ask GPT / Grok / LLM of your choice to audit them.

Membership System = Paid Memberships Pro -

You must be registered to see the links

Billing System = CCBill - PMPro integration

These two systems work in tandem with one another.

New "Free Member" tier on Subscribestar.

This is basically just to keep things aligned with my website. The Members area of the site will be locked behind a login, this can be setup for free or with the same tiers found here on SubStar. This is entirely for OSA (legal) purposes, I just don't want to leave any gaps. If you don't want to make an account there to view public posts, that's absolutely no problem. They'll always be available here too but if I can link the two websites together then keeping the tiers consistent between both is a must.

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Just to really emphasise it; there is ZERO requirement for you to interact with palegrass.com

I will continue to be here on SubscribeStar so if you're reading this on SubscribeStar, you can just forget everything I've ever said about the website if you wish as nothing will change x

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You'd really think Troy was the villain of this story from artwork like this xD

Patch 3.4.0 Scene list so far:

To make sure there's no confusion: This section outlines patch 3.4.0. This does not reference anything to be released in the upcoming patch 3.3.0.

I said I'd upload the scene list and I have been organizing things and this is what I've got thus far. I think it's looking PREEEEETTY GOOD! ^_^

Detective Dan - Two scenes total here. One is a "main" event that's mandatory for progression and the other will be optional for those seeking a Lisa & Dan romance. Neither of these scenes are particularly explosive. It's really Dan's first introduction as a character in his own right. Up until this point the focus has been on other situations and Dan's simply been a part of those situations. This time the focus is actually on Dan. I'm a huge fan of Dan as a character so I hope I can portray him well to all of you.

Mod Shop New Outfit - This will be fairly short but it'll be joined with the MS Danny scene (below). To unlock this event you'll need to first view all previous Mod Shop content up to and including the "punishment" scene with Dan & Duncan.
With the inclusion of the new outfit, the old one will no longer be available meaning that the repeatable events in the Mod Shop will all need updated. I do plan to add these during the 3.4.0 cycle but I'm unsure if it'll make the initial launch.
I think a little ceremonial burning of the old outfit might be a fun addition to the scene ^_^

Mod Shop Danny - This is a scene between Lisa and Danny. Moddy is not involved gents, sorry! This event won't occur if Danny left the party and will be wildly different between Cheating, Sharing and Cuck players - Cheating players will not see any sexual content here but the other routes will. There will be a sort of "hidden" scene but I'll talk more on that at a later date.

Danny DL - A short event in which Lisa talks to Danny for the first time since the party. It isn't exciting, nor is it pleasant but it's a necessary event and I want to implement it sooner rather than later. This event will only be seen by players who had Danny leave the party.

Lisa's Dildo - Yes, Lisa will be getting her first sex toy in this update alongside accompanying repeatables.

Theo's Night Continuations - Includes Lisa going topless in the bar after X drinks and X Exhibitionism (yes, multi-req events will be more and more common as we continue further into the game).

Renshire Night (Drunk) - Not sure if I'll get to this in the initial patch or the following one but if Lisa is drunk at night there will be some new events added to core maps. To begin with I'll likely focus on the Renshire Outskirt first (where Lisa's house is).

Hotel Brava - Few new events here including Lisa working at the front desk, the streaker makes his first appearance, Lisa has a voyeur event in one of the rooms, Lisa and Julie recollect about what happened with Malik and Kerry at the hotel, Lisa bonding with Julie. Julie will be optional but she unlocks several areas of the game I'm sure many of you are interested in. I'll not spoil what but it'll be spoken about between the two in the patch and I'm quite sure that when you're viewing their conversation; it'll make Julie a very appealing character to pursue lol!
Julie isn't "romanceable," instead it's more of a friendship between her and Lisa that opens new areas of the game.

Luca sleepover(s) - I'm seriously considering making these events repeatable with different outcomes based on whether you're seducing Luca, romancing Viv or both - there's a lot to cover in this section as it'll be a steadily evolving series of events and to what stage I make the outcomes in patch 3.4.0 isn't decided yet but all Luca fans should be very excited for this stuff ^_^

Fun Shopping (Viv) - I'll leave this one for now. This event can be with or without Viv depending on whether you're on Viv's route or not but the outcome is largely the same. I'll probably dedicate a post to this when I'm in that development cycle

Calvin's Apartment - There's a section of the Calvin apartment intro that I don't want to spoil so I'll only talk on the apartment section and let the initial part remain a secret. There's no REAL reason for me to do this honestly, I just think it'd be more fun this way for you guys ^_^
I'll break down Calvin's Apartment below as it's a little complicated due to it being very divergent based on route.

Troy - Lisa goes for another "massage." I'm certain you understand what that means at this point

Bathhouse - We'll be talking a lot about the bathhouse come development time so we'll leave it for now.

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So it's quite a mixed bag of treats! It's simply enormous and it'll definitely take a lot of cooking to get it all over the finish line but fuck am I ever excited to get my teeth into it.

I'm super hyped to show you guys Lisa's new Mod Shop outfit, it's so awesome. I was worried for a long time that I wouldn't find an outfit that both looked like something Moddy would buy Lisa, that Lisa would actually wear and ALSO something that's great to work with in Daz but I swear, I've got the PERFECT blend of all worlds and I'm sure you guys are gonna love it!

I'm also really excited for more Luca stuff, working on his previous content was a ton of fun for me both in RPGM and in Daz and the next few steps are sure to follow that same trend of excitement as the naughty side of Lisa starts rearing it's head full force.
I've been itching to make Dan content for YEARS and now I finally get to get that ball rolling which is just amazing. He's a character without much screen time so far but the rest of patch 3.X.X has a LOT of Dan content in it.

Calvin's Apartment is another one that's been briefly mentioned for years now and it's actually here so I'm just really, really looking forward to all of it

Alright so let's talk a little about Calvin's apartment. First of all; it's mandatory. Calvin is a story character and this event will be necessary to continue through to Lisa's Graduation (Act II! A little about this below).
Calvin's apartment is complicated because Calvin is already divided between Sharing, Cheating and Faithful routes. The main difference here is that Lisa doesn't know who Vicki is unless the player is on the Sharing route. Now that fact alone isn't a problem, the complexity lies in the fact that some Sharing players may have opted to have Danny leave the party meaning that he's absent from the game for most of Episode 3. So it's just compounding the number of variants required.

In this patch only one route has sexual content and that's cheating, specifically players who played the cheating version of the camping trip. Sharing, Faithful and Cuckold players will not see any sexual content during this event. The sexual content doesn't even involve Calvin so I'll just leave it at that for now xD
More perceptive players might've already figured out who it does involve given that I made a point to mention Vicki and how Lisa doesn't know her on most routes

So, yeah.. There's a LOT of huge route divergences in this patch which makes it somewhat difficult to quantify just how big it'll be. I'd estimate probably 1k CGs at least so it will need be to split into two patches but that's fine. I won't make you wait any longer than the usual cycle for a new build, I promise

Act II?

I've decided that I want to break up the game into two acts. This literally doesn't change anything for you, it'll be the same game, same engine, same saves etc. It's simply a title to note that we've completely flipped the switch and shit's getting real. Expedition 33 planted a seed in my head and I can't shift it. When I was storyboarding Lisa's Graduation alongside the song, I just thought "this would be the PERFECT time for ACT II to appear on screen and that's exactly what I'm gonna do so while I may talk about Episodes in terms of breaking up the game's sections, the shift in Acts is where the real change happens and that's at the end of the final 3.X.X patch.
The end of Act I will make the game's new logo seem less of a "strange choice." I say it all the time man but I can't bloody wait to make that patch xD

There will only be two acts in the game unless I decide to really dramatize the ending and make it it's own act which to be honest.. I may well do.
I'd like to name the acts but I'm not sure what exactly I want to name them yet. I sort of considered Act I being called "Lisa" simply then naming Act II; "Tony" but I think that might confuse players a little, that they may think they're now gonna be playing from Tony's perspective which AS COOL AS THAT SOUNDS.. is not the case xD (no Last Of Us tricks here!)

I know I'll eventually land on the titles for the acts but they haven't hit me just yet


One of the most difficult CGs of the set so far.

Final Words:

No animations in the post this week, it's just a little slow on that side of things because I have a game to build as well lol ^_^
What I really need is to setup like 20-30 template workflows for different actions and just use those in future. Currently it's just all over the place and I don't know my elbow from my arse but I will organize things a little better after the beta is released.

The patch will be released somewhat incomplete. I just won't have time to add all of the animations I want in. There may be a few CGs missing off the end too but that's always the way in these parts. Shouldn't take long after the alpha release but I will be taking Christmas day off this year ^_^

Okay, I'm off! Thanks so much everyone. Sending my love to all of you <3 ^_^!! xoxoxo

//pG

 

[nescauuzinha]

I used to play another game where the writing was absurdly racist, it seemed more like a game designed to offend white people. The art was good, but the writing was so disgusting it made me not want to play the game, so I uninstalled it...
I really like the story of this game so far (because I'm playing it little by little, reading each sentence, exploring the map, doing side quests... because I'm actually enjoying the game), but I'm following the forum and seeing some posts, and I really, really hope that this game doesn't take the same sick path...

And if anyone asks, yes, I know that "racism against whites" doesn't exist, that racism is something that happened in history and would only be "prejudice," but if I just say prejudice, many wouldn't understand. Now, if I say racism against whites, they'll understand the things it could refer to.

 

[kaifin]

I used to play another game where the writing was absurdly racist, it seemed more like a game designed to offend white people. The art was good, but the writing was so disgusting it made me not want to play the game, so I uninstalled it...
I really like the story of this game so far (because I'm playing it little by little, reading each sentence, exploring the map, doing side quests... because I'm actually enjoying the game), but I'm following the forum and seeing some posts, and I really, really hope that this game doesn't take the same sick path...

And if anyone asks, yes, I know that "racism against whites" doesn't exist, that racism is something that happened in history and would only be "prejudice," but if I just say prejudice, many wouldn't understand. Now, if I say racism against whites, they'll understand the things it could refer to.

Calm bro, Where did you see racism in the game? and why do you think this game is racist ? and yes racism against white exist, like racism against black exist. But this game isn't racist, the BBC fetish exist, i dont like that, but there are people who like, and putting too many black guyin the game it's quite exaggerated for me. For me, only Troy would be in the game, he's really one of the few black interesting characters. Byron is a terrible character, and forced. And Jake is totally unnecessary. but everything is option in game.
Jake Party is really what I hating now about the game, and the reasons are simple:
1-Lisa fucks with everyone in an uncontrolled and forced way, basically becoming everyone's whore. It's exciting, but it makes her a generic whore.
2- It takes forever to develop,
but unfortunately, the people who pay a lot for the game vote for this route.
In fact, what an irony of fate, I pay for the $3 subscription, I can't see the post that was posted above by friend HP8464 , and I can't even vote on anything. Or decide anything. It's simply a minority of people who has money who vote and decide the fate of the game. Even though I pay, I can't even see some posts, and sometimes, here it's released for free, and I can't see it there. That's why I think i won't support the game anymore. And I'll cancel my subscription. I love Lisa, and I like Palegrass because he pays attention to subscribers, but the subscription methodology is totally disrespectful and exclusionary.
“Moddy is not involved, gentls,” and once again, Mod, one of the most beloved characters, has been left out of this new patch at least we'll have Troy and Dectetive Dan new thing

 

[nescauuzinha]

Calm bro, Where did you see racism in the game? and why do you think this game is racist ? and yes racism against white exist, like racism against black exist. But this game isn't racist, the BBC fetish exist, i dont like that, but there are people who like, and putting too many black guyin the game it's quite exaggerated for me. For me, only Troy would be in the game, he's really one of the few black interesting characters. Byron is a terrible character, and forced. And Jake is totally unnecessary. but everything is option in game.
Jake Party is really what I hating now about the game, and the reasons are simple:
1-Lisa fucks with everyone in an uncontrolled and forced way, basically becoming everyone's whore. It's exciting, but it makes her a generic whore.
2- It takes forever to develop,
but unfortunately, the people who pay a lot for the game vote for this route.
In fact, what an irony of fate, I pay for the $3 subscription, I can't see the post that was posted above by friend HP8464 , and I can't even vote on anything. Or decide anything. It's simply a minority of people who has money who vote and decide the fate of the game. Even though I pay, I can't even see some posts, and sometimes, here it's released for free, and I can't see it there. That's why I think i won't support the game anymore. And I'll cancel my subscription. I love Lisa, and I like Palegrass because he pays attention to subscribers, but the subscription methodology is totally disrespectful and exclusionary.
“Moddy is not involved, gentls,” and once again, Mod, one of the most beloved characters, has been left out of this new patch at least we'll have Troy and Dectetive Dan new thing

Because of some comments and the way things are going, I'm afraid to quit a game that I think has such a good story. As I said, I'm playing slowly, reading everything possible because I really like the game.

And as I said, the other game I played, any update I downloaded, I could only feel anger reading... I started playing the game skipping all the sentences, but even though English isn't my native language, I picked up some insults and it just made me feel disgusted to be playing it, so I deleted it and moved on with my life.