whoabacha

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Well, while everyone else is dropping their hot-takes...

The instant you make use of the magic plagiarism-slurry dispensing black box (Gen-AI), you forfeit any and all rights to authorial intent, copyright protection, creative integrity, or basic human decency. Everyone has the right, if not obligation, to steal and/or pirate any product borne of such tainted origins. What goes around, does indeed come around.

I only bring this up as someone said the game now has Gen-AI animations, and if so, this project and it's 'creator' can get bent.

TL;DR - I hate Gen-AI, but if there is anything you can be 100% justified in stealing, it's that slop.
It's literally less than 1% of the game, and they are actually some of the best AI animations I have seen in a game. I'm all for rallying against lazy and badly implemented AI but when it fits and is has obviously had the time put into it to make it look right I have no issues with it. This is not some AI phone game slop so wind yer neck in.
 

Atheru23

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It's literally less than 1% of the game, and they are actually some of the best AI animations I have seen in a game. I'm all for rallying against lazy and badly implemented AI but when it fits and is has obviously had the time put into it to make it look right I have no issues with it. This is not some AI phone game slop so wind yer neck in.
That and it is completely optional. You can choose to activate or deactivate it in the options and it´s only there for exactly one scene at the moment.
If deactivated you still get the scene as stills like before and those stills are STILL handmade.

Pale is not charging extra for it and as you said from what I´ve seen to this date these are indeed some of the best made AI animations out there especially if you consider he is still learning on how to use it.
Generative AI is a tool that will not go away, but I´d rather have a creator who uses it like in this case than the sheer amount of AI Slop games we have right now, where you can literally see that the characters came from the same template.
Pale was also pretty transparent about his curiosity to try it out so we already knew this since at least the end of september.

And again, these animations are just an "optional" bonus that you can completely ignore. Even if he would do animations for all the scenes, you have the "option" to ignore them.
 

Jamieee

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I do think that PG made a fundamental mistake by sharing the alpha version of the game. That version should only be available to a controlled group of play testers. Games in an alpha/beta stage should not be distributed among the payed supporters, especially if you don't want to risk an unfinished and unpolished product being leaked the broad audience.
 

Jamieee

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If you can get a game for free but still care to support the developer or creator, you should do it anyway. All of you talking about “moral code” miss the point. As I said, people who can afford it and genuinely want to support the developer will do so regardless. The rest—the ones making this situation into something bigger than it is—are just random frauds who wait for the game to be leaked, play it when it does, and then lecture others about moral code. Hopefully, you’ll learn the difference between logic and online heroism one day.
But support for a developer can come in a variety of different shapes and forms though, not only financially. You can also support a developer by giving constructive feedback, spreading the word to increase visibility of the product or even by improving the game by modding or creating tools. That's probably one of the reasons why this site is being tolerated by a lot of developers, because this type of information can be valuable for them as well.

So no, you cannot conclude that the non-paying supporters are frauds.
 

kbass92

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For Android users playing on JoiPlay and the game doesn't recognize your old saves in v3.3.0A, do not despair

Open your file explorer and enable "show hidden files" option in settings. After that go to

"(Lisa game folder)/www/saves"

select all files and copy them, then go to


"(Lisa game folder)/www/.config/User Data/Default/Lisa"

and paste the files inside that folder; when asked, overwrite all them. Done, all your old saves will appear in game and will probably still be functional.
 

orillah

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Is there is anything new in this update? On first glance nothing to do from 3.2.5. Save for anyone who need it.
 
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Valronn

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Always liked the models in this and hoped there would be animations and made in renpy, is there plans to animate earlier scenes at some point in the future?
 
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