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Suppressed 1911. Looks like whoever it is has the drop on Foxy.
...until you notice the hammer is down. Draw, girl. You've got this shit.
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Suppressed 1911. Looks like whoever it is has the drop on Foxy.
...until you notice the hammer is down. Draw, girl. You've got this shit.
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Or do a little assault & battery and then draw. He's a bit exposed for someone who isn't ready to shoot.
Suppressed 1911. Looks like whoever it is has the drop on Foxy.
...until you notice the hammer is down. Draw, girl. You've got this shit.
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She's not exactly big, though. I mean, maybe go for the balls, but I don't see her knocking a motherfucker out. She plays soccer, so maybe kick him in the shin real hard?
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Penalty kick to the nuts.She's not exactly big, though. I mean, maybe go for the balls, but I don't see her knocking a motherfucker out. She plays soccer, so maybe kick him in the shin real hard?
Don't underestimate that shin kick lol. Many years ago when I was young I had a much older cousin who seemed to think us younger kids were for him to bully and try WWE moves on. I got sick of his shit and kicked him hard af in the shins and when he went down I continued to put the boots to him until adults pulled me off lol. He left me alone after that.
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Jack's been training her for awhile now though. My first thoughts were 1) drop and leg sweep 2) grab that arm and sling him into the wall or 3) groin kick
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Again, eh...she's just not big enough. Technique is good and all, but she weighs like 80 or 90 pounds soaking wet. The groin kick, sure, the others... They have weight classes for a reason.
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I think they'd work, the arm thing is a little risky, but she definitely has strong legs and he wouldn't be braced for it.
Edit: It's a soccer move - a super illegal one, but still ... Also, she overestimates herself and he underestimates her - both of these work to her advantage so does the fact that (although she doesn't know it) the last thing he wants to do is shoot her.
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Yeah, but remember in soccer (or football for everyone not in NA
) she wouldn't be performing that particular maneuver while flat-footed. She'd likely be running and have momentum. ...which is a shame. I'd fucking love to see a Judo takedown in a match. At least then the fucking pussies would have a reason to bitch about falling over. Anyway, all of this is risky behavior. Right now she has a massive advantage, namely the fact that the 1911 will not fire like that. Dude could pull the trigger til doomsday. As soon as he figures that out and wants to shoot her, she's in trouble, so best bet is for her to take him out first, or at least draw and hold him at gunpoint.
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I know right, i miss the game in the 80s and 90sYeah, but remember in soccer (or football for everyone not in NA
Anyway, all of this is risky behavior. Right now she has a massive advantage, namely the fact that the 1911 will not fire like that. Dude could pull the trigger til doomsday. As soon as he figures that out and wants to shoot her, she's in trouble, so best bet is for her to take him out first, or at least draw and hold him at gunpoint.
If we take it a bit further.
Why is that gun not ready?
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Because he thinks she's a weak kid, and he doesn't actually want to shoot her. He think's it will intimidate her and she'll shit herself and cooperate. That's why she can kick his ass, even if some of the moves are risky.I know right, i miss the game in the 80s and 90s
If we take it a bit further.
Why is that gun not ready?
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It is but he won't be expecting it - oh kneecap strike would be good too. Fall to the side, kick upward from under the kneecap then pull out gun. That might hurt more than the testicle kick.Yeah, but remember in soccer (or football for everyone not in NA
Anyway, all of this is risky behavior. Right now she has a massive advantage, namely the fact that the 1911 will not fire like that. Dude could pull the trigger til doomsday. As soon as he figures that out and wants to shoot her, she's in trouble, so best bet is for her to take him out first, or at least draw and hold him at gunpoint.
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The 1911 is a single-action-only pistol. What that means is that the hammer has to be cocked (pulled back and locked in place) for it to fire. Pulling the trigger only performs a single action, namely releasing the hammer from its cocked position. Hence the name.I know right, i miss the game in the 80s and 90s
If we take it a bit further.
Why is that gun not ready?
In a SAO pistol this must be done manually by the user, either by racking the slide, or physically pulling the hammer back until it locks back (its usually done when loading a magazine and dropping the slide). At that point pulling the trigger releases the hammer which contacts the firing pin and fires the gun. The action then slides back with gas pressure and recoil, racking the slide and automatically locking the hammer back for the next shot.
If the hammer isn't locked back, the trigger being pulled doesn't accomplish anything, since it's purpose is to release the lock holding back the hammer.
The alternative system would be a double-action/single-action. In that case (such as with a Beretta 92 / M9) pulling the trigger will both pull back and release the hammer. Note that the hammer-down uncocked trigger pull is heavier (more finger pressure is required) than the subsequent single-action pull.
There's also such a thing as a double-action-only, but those are mostly revolvers. There's the odd DAO pistol, but they're not terribly popular as the DA/SA system is generally seen as superior.
As an aside, a lot of people think it's unsafe to carry a pistol with the hammer locked, but for the 1911 that's the proper way to carry it, with the safety on. Otherwise you end up in exactly the situation shown in the screenshot.
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Maybe I've been reading it all wrong, maybe it's not the guys who are after Jack - maybe it's just some asshole who has a grudge but doesn't know how to use their weapon - that or, as I said earlier, they just want to make absolutely sure they don't actually shoot her.
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I suspect it's that government agent guy that's trying to track down whoever is using the system. Same guy that tasked the drone flyover of the MC's training compound.
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That's what I've always thought too, but I wouldn't be completely shocked if Echo did a bit of misdirect - gave us a single image and let us assume.
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I love technical stuff pal but I meant in this situation
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The answer's in there! In the sort of middle!I love technical stuff pal but I meant in this situation
Lol, basically : 1911 (the pistol that art asset is based on) hammer not cocked back, gun no go boom. Period.
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I think he's asking why the gun isn't ready to fire in terms of the story, not the mechanics of the gun.