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So, going for the expert:
Dear Avaron1974, as our resident lesbian, what is your opinion on Kelly? Is she gay or bi or whatever? Does Rykers magic dick (or much more plausible Jessy trickery) work and she will end up in bed with Ryker?
Or is it just some (male) fantasy of the typical cliché in adult games?

And for the second part Marty (McFly):
Leelee sister must wait until she's old enough to get Ryker's dick. That is confirmed by Dima. Also Leelee's little sisters name is Hailey.;)
I have to say, I can see sis touching Ryker's knee and him sprinting and not stopping until he reaches Norway. I don't know who would be a crueler kill Sluggo or Marah if he crossed that dead line. So, Not in any way, shape or form would I advocate Ryker and sis doing more than courtesy "Hello" conversation while fully clothed and a minimum of 12 feet between them. Just dating LeeLee is tap dancing through a minefield while blindfolded, in my opinion.
 
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I have to say, I can see sis touching Ryker's knee and him sprinting and not stopping until he reaches Norway. I don't know who would be a crueler kill Sluggo or Marah is he crossed that dead line. So, Not in any way, shape or form would I advocate Ryker and sis doing more than courtesy "Hello" conversation while fully clothed and a minimum of 12 feet between them. Just dating LeeLee is tap dancing through a minefield while blindfolded, in my opinion.
Maybe but at least in LeeLee's case Marah has supplied the minefields safe route map.
 
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So, going for the expert:
Dear Avaron1974, as our resident lesbian, what is your opinion on Kelly? Is she gay or bi or whatever? Does Rykers magic dick (or much more plausible Jessy trickery) work and she will end up in bed with Ryker?
Or is it just some (male) fantasy of the typical cliché in adult games?
As far as Kelly goes I can honestly say i'm not sure.

She's openly lesbian so it's something she's confident in and a lifestyle she's been living for a while. In that line of business a bit of friendly banter and light flirting happens but it doesn't mean anything.

I doubt she'd ever go for Ryker as a lover but there are plenty of bi girls in his harem that could possibly swing a threesome if that's the direction obd wanted to go.

I suppose if the setting fit she could be pushed into bi territory but the problem there is doing it without going all cliche or "porn logic" because that always looks silly.

We know she's been lesbian for a long time based on bits of conversation so she's not doing it out of hurt from an old male flame.

She's either gonna be like me and firmly in the girls only club or she at least a bit curious and one of the more spirited bi girls like Jess or Nik pushes her a bit further.

Of course the easiest way to do it would be have her and Pip reignite their old flame and slowly introduce Ryker that way.

That may cause issue with the group that don't want their women touching anyone but the MC and in my personal opinion as a women not developing this game, I don't see how to get Kelly with Ryker without other women involved. With how openly lesbian she is, she's not just going to jump to a hetero relationship. Even porn logic can't do that without it looking ridiculous.
 

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That may cause issue with the group that don't want their women touching anyone but the MC and in my personal opinion as a women not developing this game, I don't see how to get Kelly with Ryker without other women involved. With how openly lesbian she is, she's not just going to jump to a hetero relationship. Even porn logic can't do that without it looking ridiculous.
Well, here it is, if that is what you want, every girl can be with every girl as long as no other dick is their.
 
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As far as Kelly goes I can honestly say i'm not sure.

She's openly lesbian so it's something she's confident in and a lifestyle she's been living for a while. In that line of business a bit of friendly banter and light flirting happens but it doesn't mean anything.

I doubt she'd ever go for Ryker as a lover but there are plenty of bi girls in his harem that could possibly swing a threesome if that's the direction obd wanted to go.

I suppose if the setting fit she could be pushed into bi territory but the problem there is doing it without going all cliche or "porn logic" because that always looks silly.

We know she's been lesbian for a long time based on bits of conversation so she's not doing it out of hurt from an old male flame.

She's either gonna be like me and firmly in the girls only club or she at least a bit curious and one of the more spirited bi girls like Jess or Nik pushes her a bit further.

Of course the easiest way to do it would be have her and Pip reignite their old flame and slowly introduce Ryker that way.

That may cause issue with the group that don't want their women touching anyone but the MC and in my personal opinion as a women not developing this game, I don't see how to get Kelly with Ryker without other women involved. With how openly lesbian she is, she's not just going to jump to a hetero relationship. Even porn logic can't do that without it looking ridiculous.
Or she might go for it at the behest of a Dommy Mommy like Angelica?

Edit: My version of Ryker gives all the bi girls carte blanche. So Kelly should feel welcome and don't forget little sis...
 

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I have to agree that Kelly is never going to jump into the Hetero lifestyle. She may dabble once or twice at Pip's invitation or drunken dare, she might be the "I'll try anything once" type or she may be curious but I do not see her as an OL or Sweetie. At most you might get her 2 or 3 times a year if she comes back for more or joins the Patch Party Orgy with the girls. It will go a long way if Ryker explains that Pip is free to play solo. Jessy(hard head) might try to convert her but, nah, not happening(my opinion). S/S encounter fans are going to have to pin their current hopes on Sarah and Rai.
 
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I have to agree that Kelly is never going to jump into the Hetero lifestyle. She may dabble once or twice at Pip's invitation or drunken dare, she might be the "I'll try anything once" type or she may be curious but I do not see her as an OL or Sweetie. At most you might get her 2 or 3 times a year if she comes back for more or joins the Patch Party Orgy with the girls. It will go a long way if Ryker explains that Pip is free to play solo. Jessy(hard head) might try to convert her but, nah, not happening(my opinion). S/S encounter fans are going to have to pin their current hopes on Sarah and Rai.
Dunno, Marty. My Dad was a master craftsman and one of his favorite sayings was, "There's a tool for every job." Jus' Sayin':cool:

Some of the scenes between the girls are hot as hell but I really love the relationship between Rae and Jess.
Well, Jess pretty nearly qualifies as a second protagonist. Jess and Tracy, Jess and Della, Jess and Rai, Jess and Tink, Jess and Willow and Jess and Angelica are all pretty deep relationships.
 
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Hey , do you "think" we'll ever see "Jesus and Paco "? 8th playthrou , didnt think about them since forever :eek:
I don't see why not as they are a part of the community. Granted I haven't peeked inside Dima's notebook in a while I can't imagine they're too happy about the South American Gang pushing dope and working with the Satan's Simps in their hood. Though, I could be way off as well? Who knows. I hope we do see them again at some point in all honesty.
 

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Hey , do you "think" we'll ever see "Jesus and Paco "? 8th playthrou , didnt think about them since forever :eek:
Jesus and Paco(Los Vatos Loco) are known to have beef with Barb's Bitches, so it is very likely we may see them assisting RMC with the secret squirrel shit Stan wants Ryker to pull off. I can also see LVL and RMC cooperating after in a few legal enterprises like a few new 420 shops(legal in Cal).
 

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Same, but I also enjoy the Jessy-Pip, Jessy-Tink dynamics as well. Lil' Pocket Hotties.:BootyTime:
Ryker's loves come in 2 styles. Pocket Rockets, Tink, Pip, Emily, Angel and Jessy, and Smoking Chokers,Rai, Angelica[soon], Ash, Tori and Bunny. This leaves the Milfalicious group Dee, Tracy, Nora, Kat, and Piper and the Latina Quarter of Chloe, Juanita and Maria. For now, LeeLee is not invited to join her sisters in the Pocket Rockets. C2 promises a few additions with Angie and Brooke joining the family, possibly Geraldine if we get lucky, Sasha if Dim is bored, Steffi(Babes), Frannie and Milla(XXX).
Candi, Marah and Shelly are 100% OFF LIMITS and Verboten!
 

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Ryker already has his cock down Candi's throat.
IF the player is not a plant from Barb's Bitches, Jaybird is getting out soon. Any slimy puke who left him to die in a cage needs to be buried in a fire ant mound. If not for Jay's pending release Candi would top my list of things to do but he is and she ain't.
 

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Point I was making is she isn't off limits.

In fact, Ryker was given a very bright green light to do whatever she wants him to in ye olde bedroom department.
actually its the other way around ,Candi was giving the green light.. Ryker has a no limit hall pass..
 
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