TigerWolfe

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Depends on when you were in and where you were. I was in the UK 80-82 but TDY to Germany every 6 weeks for 2 weeks with the A-10 squadron I was attached to. Been to many a bar outside of Army bases there that when door kickers and tankers mixed in the same bar the shit hit the fan.
Must've gotten buttoned up real quick cause my dad was mobile cav in late 80s early 90s in Germany and doesn't have any tales of that kinda shit going down.

I'm not saying there aren't bouts of individual idiocy mind you, we had a navigator get into a punch up with the pilot, fortunately co-pilot took the stick while engineer bike them up, over Iraq on one of our birds, but that was two morons moroning not some kind of deep seated navigator vs pilot war.
 
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Depends on when you were in and where you were. I was in the UK 80-82 but TDY to Germany every 6 weeks for 2 weeks with the A-10 squadron I was attached to. Been to many a bar outside of Army bases there that when door kickers and tankers mixed in the same bar the shit hit the fan.
Must've gotten buttoned up real quick cause my dad was mobile cav in late 80s early 90s in Germany and doesn't have any tales of that kinda shit going down.

I'm not saying there aren't bouts of individual idiocy mind you, we had a navigator get into a punch up with the pilot, fortunately co-pilot took the stick while engineer bike them up, over Iraq on one of our birds, but that was two morons moroning not some kind of deep seated navigator vs pilot war.
Some of that attitude was likely collateral Feng Shui from the Yanks and Brits thing. Some of it might have been the chip on the shoulder that fly boys tend to have because they catch so much shit about "not being real soldiers". Trust me. When grunts need to call in air support they are damned impressed with the result. Marines have the advantage of it often being another Marine when the air gets called. I was never around tanks at all so, I don't know much about the lore. But, it wouldn't take much imagination to visualize tankers thinking they are the baddest of the bad because they ride armored artillary and heavy machine gun platforms. Jus' Sayin':cool:
 
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Must've gotten buttoned up real quick cause my dad was mobile cav in late 80s early 90s in Germany and doesn't have any tales of that kinda shit going down.

I'm not saying there aren't bouts of individual idiocy mind you, we had a navigator get into a punch up with the pilot, fortunately co-pilot took the stick while engineer bike them up, over Iraq on one of our birds, but that was two morons moroning not some kind of deep seated navigator vs pilot war.
Were you on KC-135's?. The dust up did not last long as each side hustled them outside the bar plus the German bar owners did not put up with much shit either.
 

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Were you on KC-135's?. The dust up did not last long as each side hustled them outside the bar plus the German bar owners did not put up with much shit either.
EC-130s. Thats the kinda shit that woulda had the entire squadron on some kinda weekend detail while I was in. We'd get weekend cleanup if one idiot got a dui, for not keeping our wingmen outta trouble.
 

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EC-130s. Thats the kinda shit that woulda had the entire squadron on some kinda weekend detail while I was in. We'd get weekend cleanup if one idiot got a dui, for not keeping our wingmen outta trouble.
Nice, they used to have a EC-130 squadron at Keesler when I was there. 7th ACCS I believe they called it back then.
 

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Nice, they used to have a EC-130 squadron at Keesler when I was there. 7th ACCS I believe they called it back then.
Yeah there's a few different EC-130s with each base's version doing slightly different stuff. Mine's now been officially decommissioned, as of a few years ago, I think they're doing the same stuff out of a modified learjet now.
 
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Some of that attitude was likely collateral Feng Shui from the Yanks and Brits thing. Some of it might have been the chip on the shoulder that fly boys tend to have because they catch so much shit about "not being real soldiers". Trust me. When grunts need to call in air support they are damned impressed with the result. Marines have the advantage of it often being another Marine when the air gets called. I was never around tanks at all so, I don't know much about the lore. But, it wouldn't take much imagination to visualize tankers thinking they are the baddest of the bad because they ride armored artillary and heavy machine gun platforms. Jus' Sayin':cool:
I was in Okinawa in the late 90's and there were like 16 or more bases\posts\depots of Marine, Navy, Air Force and Army there and we kept most of our shit on camp. At least with the Marines, if you were standing out front of a local bar and they were fighting on the inside they would roll the whole thing up and everybody there gets and ARI(alcohol related incident. We had a few local incidents but not as many as you would think with all that shit there. One guy got drunk and stole a van and crashed in front of a police station, because it was G* summit week brass let him rot in a local prison for 4 months eating fishheads and rice then made him do a tour to every Marine base on OKI extoling the virtues of not being stupid in local bars. The bedsores and 40 lib weight loss got the point home.
 
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I was in Okinawa in the late 90's and there were like 16 or more bases\posts\depots of Marine, Navy, Air Force and Army there and we kept most of our shit on camp. At least with the Marines, if you were standing out front of a local bar and they were fighting on the inside they would roll the whole thing up and everybody there gets and ARI(alcohol related incident. We had a few local incidents but not as many as you would think with all that shit there. One guy got drunk and stole a van and crashed in front of a police station, because it was G* summit week brass let him rot in a local prison for 4 months eating fishheads and rice then made him do a tour to every Marine base on OKI extoling the virtues of not being stupid in local bars. The bedsores and 40 lib weight loss got the point home.
The brass at Okinawa and Gitmo have always kept the strings pretty tight. Most folk don't know that those are considered front line bases. It helps, to an extent, keep things squared away. Once in a while it boils over when some dumbass prive gets bigger than his shadow. Those also tend to be the ones who will charge a hill without any bullets...
 

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I remember I played this once a long long long time ago, remember I liked it a lot but ended abruptly when MC had gotten to a strip club?? I think at least. Any walkthroughs or walkthrough mods, or does this play with minimal choices?
 
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I remember I played this once a long long long time ago, remember I liked it a lot but ended abruptly when MC had gotten to a strip club?? I think at least. Any walkthroughs or walkthrough mods, or does this play with minimal choices?
Built in walkthrough mod. Just make sure Easy mode is selected in preferences. Enjoy, m8.
 
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I remember I played this once a long long long time ago, remember I liked it a lot but ended abruptly when MC had gotten to a strip club?? I think at least. Any walkthroughs or walkthrough mods, or does this play with minimal choices?
well he 1st visits stripclub and gets into fight with customers and later becomes bouncer there so you have loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooots to play.
 
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I hope that it's either Della or Willie that kills Barb. Della for obvious reasons. Willie might do it if he finds out she killed Chrissy and Bud.
a part of me thinks it was willie that set up chrissy's death but kept it quiet while barb is the easy red herring since shes psychotic and keeps saying willie to old to do anything but then it's revealed that it turns out he killed chrissy and bud later? regardless willie offing barb or della doing it or even wild angie revenge killing her would be a solid end for her
 
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