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Yeap, if you remember, she's been looking for a job. So, if you've been playing with NTR on/control off, now is probably the time to turn control on.Damn it!
I honestly hate the control on/off thing. I'd much rather any NTR like that happen because of stupid decisions made during the game.
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I played it a while ago.
Could you please remind what exactly this control off/on does? I have a vague idea but still, does NTR actually happen regardless of your choices if control is set to off?
I feel like the dress choice for that job is probably going to be the opt out with control off. When you get the choice the game does tell you you'll still control stuff, just not everything. Like the Ann Chris stuff with control off still requires you to let Chris ask for her number and for you to pick the choice for her to keep texting him. There's 2 separate points where you can opt out of that even with control off.
As much as I normally hate this narrative in this exact case not having an actual specific opt out would be one of the rare cases where NTR content actually cheapens the LI outside of the NTR routes. It basically means that the only thing stopping Emily from NTRing the MC is a magic button from the beginning of the game, like it requires divine intervention for her to not sleep with that sleeze ball.
Well, let's be honest, Joe only got votes because Chris isn't an option in the poll. If he was, Joshy alone would make ten accounts to vote for him.They do have the most content, by far. Honestly though I wouldn't take too much notice of it, I mean Fat Joe got 1,464 votes
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Control off is NTR that happens without the player's influence. There isn't much that uses that setting yet, but an example is when Ann is at the dorm after you told her to stop seeing Chris. With control off, when he shows up, they'll have sex. With control on, she sends him away.
I highly doubt the dress choice would affect it. If he puts a control off scene there, he's probably not also going to check if she's wearing the sexier outfit.
This was before the control on/off feature was implemented, but also, that's a sharing choice.
Definitely agree.
Emily doesn't know Chris is a sleeze ball, he's supposed to be handsome and alluring (as much as the game can make him, anyway) and Emily is both after a recent break up and didn't have sex for months. Given all these it's absolutely not surprising that she'd normally hook up with a guy as a rebound rather than obsess "oh but my little brother might possibly mind this".
If acting like a normal human being "cheapens the LI" for you, well. Twice so for those who have their own MC bang random girls at every opportunity.
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I don't disagree with your logic, but I think it's more about the implementation. Emily is a romanceable character and we're already seeing the relationship building up between her and her brother/roommate. So for her to just throw that away based on a setting at the beginning of the game isn't the greatest of game designs, IMO.
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I thought the control on or off was whether or not you see the scenes, not if they happen or not. Could be wrong as it's been a while since I played.
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Not too mention your not given the choice of warning/telling her about him, you just throw your (sister/roommate) to the wolves. There are a few places where choices make no sense or certain, imo, important things get ignored or should have more to the choice.
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It's still possible it could happen, maybe before her first day of work. We'll see.
It's my personal opinion that some things appear to be ignored because they are either not implemented yet, or they are forgotten about due to the game having so many routes and choices (roughly around 360 choices).
But isn't this jumping to conclusions? E.g. whether Emily sleeps with Chris may very well also depend on factors like MC's relationship level with her, i.e. if she got close and fairly intimate with MC then she might not care much for Chris, regardless of the control switch. At this point we don't really know how this is going to play out.
Or she might hook up with him but whether it develops further or stops will depend on the player's choices (earlier and/or later) And if people are going to be turned off by that "because another guy got his dick in her" or whatever then well, that ship has long since sailed.
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That's how I feel about any game with NTR tbh. It would make choices feel more important imo.
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Of course this is mostly speculation on everyone's part, but considering I have access to TTrick's code (in order for me to port the game to Ren'Py), I'm very familiar with how he does things.
So... he's never used relationship points, for example, as a way to determine if a character will do something with someone else. It's always been used as a way to unlock more scenes for the MC. He's also kind of moved away from using stats (not completely though), in favor of: if you saw this scene in the past, you can get this new scene. Additionally, the control off option potentially makes anyone fair game, throwing all logic out. At least for now. Proof of this, is what I feel is the worst scene in the game... Ann's motel scene. No logic whatsoever for how that plays out. Especially if you've never shared Ann before.
A lot of NTR games get it wrong, too. For example, I don't think a person needs to be treated poorly in order to have a lapse of judgment and cheat on their SO. At the same time, I also don't think that a small argument would make someone throw everything away and become a complete slut. People are complicated, as are relationships. But so many NTR games follow a silly mold of how characters should behave based on silly choices in the game.
Hmm i disagree, i thought the arrangement of that one was pretty logical.
If Ann "hates" the MC then she'll invite the guys on her own after MC is asleep, and fuck them.
If Ann and MC are together then if MC chooses to sleep on the bed with her and shares it with one guy, she'll only fuck the guy (s) if MC explicitly suggests it to her. Otherwise she'll stop herself (or fuck MC if you go for this option)
If MC chooses to sleep on the couch and has Ann share the bed with two strangers then both the game and Ann take it as a signal MC wants to see her involved with them, and she does.
Sure, it would be nice if there was some talk between Ann and MC regarding this (there's even good opportunity for it, with Ann already approaching the MC on the couch to talk before they all go to sleep) because otherwise it can appear very abrupt, but even without it there is some clear logic to it all.
The only thing that felt off in all this was what i mentioned before, that it all goes out of the window on the next day if you choose to give the guys a lift. But that seemed more like oversight/bug that didn't take into account Ann's earlier behavior even though it is one of the switch branches.
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What you just described - I completely agree, though I can bear with this somewhat porn logic to some extent.
What I can't bear with in these NTR games is that it's sometimes just a matter of 1 click - whether LI goes full slut route or remain faithful.
I played one recently, it doesn't matter how you treated LI or what happened before in general - 1 click (decision to fuck her or not) and LI makes a full 180 from faithful GF to a cheating nymho, not only she cheats - she enjoys it... only because you didn't fuck her 1 time lol
oh well, it is what it is
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So you don't find it at all odd that if you've never shared Ann with anyone up to that point, that she just goes all out DP with two complete strangers? Just because she's sharing the bed with them? That whole setup is just... weird to me. Even inviting them in to stay is crazy. I get it... porn logic... but still. Also, there just was no build up... no excitement. It felt like a scene that was put there just to see Bobblehead get shared/fucked.
Yeap, agree with everything you said here.