VN Others Long Story Short [v0.10a1] [TTrickGames]

[ffive]

So you don't find it at all odd that if you've never shared Ann with anyone up to that point, that she just goes all out DP with two complete strangers? Just because she's sharing the bed with them? That whole setup is just... weird to me. Even inviting them in to stay is crazy. I get it... porn logic... but still. Also, there just was no build up... no excitement. It felt like a scene that was put there just to see Bobblehead get shared/fucked.

Like i said, it'd be much better if Ann and MC had some talk about this before they all go to sleep, to bridge this.

At the same time, like you note, the whole inviting guys in (and making Ann go invite them while in her underwear) is pretty outrageous, and realistically only something that'd be done by the player who does want to see Ann get fucked by those strangers. It is a porn game and we all could guess what the outcome of that would be. So, if the player chooses to invite them and then also chooses to have Ann share the bed with them (while opting to stay out himself) and then complains "but then she fucked those guys and i never saw that coming" it rings completely fake, tbh.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if the dev largely presumed that this setup would only be picked by people who were into sharing Ann from the get-go, and so the need for any transition/warmup talk slipped their mind. There's always a possibility it'll be addressed and added in some later update, though.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

So if the player chooses to invite them and then also chooses to have Ann share the bed with them (while opting to stay out himself) and then complains "but then she fucked those guys and i never saw that coming" it ring completely fake, tbh.

Agree with this. I just think the whole scene could have been done way better.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if the dev largely presumed that this setup would only be picked by people who were into sharing Ann from the get-go, and so the need for any transition/warmup talk slipped their mind. There's always a possibility it'll be addressed and added in some later update, though.

Always possible, indeed. He's done it before where he's changed/added dialogues to older scenes. There does seem to be enough people mentioning how the motel scene went that he might even change some things, though honestly, I just want this scene to go away lol. Too much time already spent on it.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Like i said, it'd be much better if Ann and MC had some talk about this before they all go to sleep, to bridge this.

At the same time, like you note, the whole inviting guys in (and making Ann go invite them while in her underwear) is pretty outrageous, and realistically only something that'd be done by the player who does want to see Ann get fucked by those strangers. It is a porn game and we all could guess what the outcome of that would be. So, if the player chooses to invite them and then also chooses to have Ann share the bed with them (while opting to stay out himself) and then complains "but then she fucked those guys and i never saw that coming" it rings completely fake, tbh.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if the dev largely presumed that this setup would only be picked by people who were into sharing Ann from the get-go, and so the need for any transition/warmup talk slipped their mind. There's always a possibility it'll be addressed and added in some later update, though.

I assume you're referring to both 'weird paths' where this occurs - ann no-share and ann hate. I can't speak to the first, but on the second the entire scene is just bizarre. Why would MC even be in a hotel room with her?

Fine, she screws around, fucks both guys sideways out of sight of mc, great, why would he know (or even care?)

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I assume you're referring to both 'weird paths' where this occurs - ann no-share and ann hate. I can't speak to the first, but on the second the entire scene is just bizarre. Why would MC even be in a hotel room with her?

Fine, she screws around, fucks both guys sideways out of sight of mc, great, why would he know (or even care?)

I mean... I can understand not having much money, so easier to share a room...

But the obsessive monologue while she's slutting out with two strangers is weird. I'd either leave the room and sleep in the car or just try to sleep through it. Either way, as someone who actually hates Ann and want nothing to do with her on the Ann Hate path... it was disappointing to have to sit through that shit. And let's make no mistake about it... it was absolute shit.

 

[ffive]

I assume you're referring to both 'weird paths' where this occurs - ann no-share and ann hate. I can't speak to the first, but on the second the entire scene is just bizarre. Why would MC even be in a hotel room with her?

I think the "ann hate" is a bit of inaccurate internal naming the game uses, bleeding out and influencing players' perceptions -- Ann doesn't actually hate MC in this path. They are just acquaintances and MC made it clear that he isn't interested in being anything but that or "friends". So it's hardly odd that two acquaintances rent a single room while travelling to the same destination, especially when that room has two beds so they can stay away from each other.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I think the "ann hate" is a bit of inaccurate internal naming the game uses, bleeding out and influencing players' perceptions -- Ann doesn't actually hate MC in this path. They are just acquaintances and MC made it clear that he isn't interested in being anything but that or "friends". So it's hardly odd that two acquaintances rent a single room while travelling to the same destination, especially when that room has two beds so they can stay away from each other.

Even the dev said it was named poorly. The are basically friends (it's even briefly discussed in this last update).

What makes it worse on this path, is that he still tries shoving her down our throats with choices to compliment her (and earn relationship points). And I'm sure in the next update, we'll have to watch her whore around with the director or another "actor".

 

[ffive]

What makes it worse on this path, is that he still tries shoving her down our throats with choices to compliment her (and earn relationship points).

To be fair, i think that as long as those are choices, it's a good thing -- one of my favorite aspects of these games is having more than one rigid point of entry/ending for any given romance (something e.g. ORS does to crazy degree) So having option for MC to not be initially into Ann but change his mind down the road for whatever reason would be pretty cool, and allow for additional variants of the narrative.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

To be fair, i think that as long as those are choices, it's a good thing -- one of my favorite aspects of these games is having more than one rigid point of entry/ending for any given romance (something e.g. ORS does to crazy degree) So having option for MC to not be initially into Ann but change his mind down the road for whatever reason would be pretty cool, and allow for additional variants of the narrative.

I do like having choices... but in this case, we've already turned her down. Why are we still dealing with that crap?

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I think the "ann hate" is a bit of inaccurate internal naming the game uses, bleeding out and influencing players' perceptions -- Ann doesn't actually hate MC in this path. They are just acquaintances and MC made it clear that he isn't interested in being anything but that or "friends". So it's hardly odd that two acquaintances rent a single room while travelling to the same destination, especially when that room has two beds so they can stay away from each other.

Even the dev said it was named poorly. The are basically friends (it's even briefly discussed in this last update).

What makes it worse on this path, is that he still tries shoving her down our throats with choices to compliment her (and earn relationship points). And I'm sure in the next update, we'll have to watch her whore around with the director or another "actor".

As I know gooml is just as familiar as I am with every inch of the path, it's a weird set up all together. On one hand, yes, they're just 'friends'. On the other hand, it's quite clear the narrator/art-director goes out of his way to taunt the player with what shes up to with Chris or whatever, it doesn't "feel" like a just-friends girl you rejected, it feels like a director's exercise in ntr/cuckoldry/voyeurism.

Having 2 friends traveling together may not be weird, but bringing guys back to fuck in that room definitely is. In reality; we both know how that would play out if they were truly 2 platonic friends - Ann would say "ill be back later tonight"....and pay someone else's room a visit.

I want a path where you can truly treat Ann like a girl you're not interested in....errr because I'm not. You can easily shut Jenny or Alex out, even Emily's interactions are kept pretty short if you cold shoulder her. Ann's in your face 24/7.

 

[Deleted Member 69]

Why are we still dealing with that crap?

It's not as if she gets any hotter, am I right

 

[ffive]

I do like having choices... but in this case, we've already turned her down. Why are we still dealing with that crap?

Like i said, because people can be fickle and change their minds. It's perfectly possible not to be into someone initially but have them grow on you over time. And the point where MC is made to decide whether they like Ann or not is very early in the story, where we hardly know anything about her.

Not to mention it's the same with Vanessa -- the game repeatedly gives you various options to fuck her without any care that you have potentially turned her down on more than one occasion. Do you also resent it for that, and wish any and all options of sex with Vanessa were removed as soon as the player tells her no at their first opportunity, because we've already turned her down? Personally, i think the game would be poorer for it.

 

[Finuee]

To be fair, i think that as long as those are choices, it's a good thing -- one of my favorite aspects of these games is having more than one rigid point of entry/ending for any given romance (something e.g. ORS does to crazy degree) So having option for MC to not be initially into Ann but change his mind down the road for whatever reason would be pretty cool, and allow for additional variants of the narrative.

That's indeed a rather interesting thing. As you said, it's often a single "point of entry" into a path, so this would be a refreshing novelty.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Like i said, because people can be fickle and change their minds. It's perfectly possible not to be into someone initially but have them grow on you over time. And the point where MC is made to decide whether they like Ann or not is very early in the story, where we hardly know anything about her.

Not to mention it's the same with Vanessa -- the game repeatedly gives you various options to fuck her without any care that you have potentially turned her down on more than one occasion. Do you also resent it for that, and wish any and all options of sex with Vanessa were removed as soon as the player tells her no at their first opportunity, because we've already turned her down? Personally, i think the game would be poorer for it.

Being honest, I can't stand Vanessa either. She's another one that is constantly in our faces. Not even safe from her in our own home which she just invites herself into whenever the fuck she wants. So yes, at some point earlier on, I'd like to be able to tell her to stop pestering me with her advances. Doesn't necessarily have to be on the first choice, but at least so we're not constantly prompted to do shit with her. I do not think choice like that would make the game poorer. Sure, people can be fickle.. and yes, people might change their minds... but not if they don't find someone attractive.

 

[Dogorti]

Bobblehead will pay for her crimes to the AVNs community some day.

 

[EroPulse]

What you just described - I completely agree, though I can bear with this somewhat porn logic to some extent.
What I can't bear with in these NTR games is that it's sometimes just a matter of 1 click - whether LI goes full slut route or remain faithful.

I played one recently, it doesn't matter how you treated LI or what happened before in general - 1 click (decision to fuck her or not) and LI makes a full 180 from faithful GF to a cheating nymho, not only she cheats - she enjoys it... only because you didn't fuck her 1 time lol
oh well, it is what it is

I agree as well. Games that do this are very annoying and the sudden character change doesn't make sense.

The game you're describing here reminds me of Lustful Voyage? Where no matter if you were faithful the full way through and didn't select any NTR options for her with the fisherman, if you deny her sex that one time (granted, yes, it's an NTR selection) that she goes full slut mode? I was super disappointed in that scene. I would have preferred if it started her on that path with teasing or touching during the sparring. What happened there, based on the fact you deny her once, despite the loyal options and how "in love" she is with the MC made no fucking sense and nearly ruined that game for me for any build up to NTR.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I agree as well. Games that do this are very annoying and the sudden character change doesn't make sense.

The game you're describing here reminds me of Lustful Voyage? Where no matter if you were faithful the full way through and didn't select any NTR options for her with the fisherman, if you deny her sex that one time (granted, yes, it's an NTR selection) that she goes full slut mode? I was super disappointed in that scene. I would have preferred if it started her on that path with teasing or touching during the sparring. What happened there, based on the fact you deny her once, despite the loyal options and how "in love" she is with the MC made no fucking sense and nearly ruined that game for me for any build up to NTR.

You can't take that game seriously. It's an NTR lover's wet dream. Those beautiful models are wasted on such a piss-poor story and porn-logic scenes.

 

[Joshy92]

Being honest, I can't stand Vanessa either. She's another one that is constantly in our faces. Not even safe from her in our own home which she just invites herself into whenever the fuck she wants. So yes, at some point earlier on, I'd like to be able to tell her to stop pestering me with her advances. Doesn't necessarily have to be on the first choice, but at least so we're not constantly prompted to do shit with her. I do not think choice like that would make the game poorer. Sure, people can be fickle.. and yes, people might change their minds... but not if they don't find someone attractive.

I actually love when Vanessa just barges in like she owns the place. It makes her sexier to me.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I actually love when Vanessa just barges in like she owns the place. It makes her sexier to me.

You would like that.

Imagine this: Your gorgeous sister who's been gone for a long time returns home and things are finally heating up between you. She playfully steals your phone and you go after her. You end up on the couch with her ass pressed against your cock and she's holding your hands against her firm breasts as she tries to prevent you from reaching your phone. All of a sudden, the loud, obnoxious, and forever intruding, Vanessa barges in and ruins the moment.

 

[Dogorti]

We need a restraining order path for both Vanessa and Ann lol.

Sadly that big ass head is everywhere.

 

[metamorphMP]

I agree as well. Games that do this are very annoying and the sudden character change doesn't make sense.

The game you're describing here reminds me of Lustful Voyage? Where no matter if you were faithful the full way through and didn't select any NTR options for her with the fisherman, if you deny her sex that one time (granted, yes, it's an NTR selection) that she goes full slut mode? I was super disappointed in that scene. I would have preferred if it started her on that path with teasing or touching during the sparring. What happened there, based on the fact you deny her once, despite the loyal options and how "in love" she is with the MC made no fucking sense and nearly ruined that game for me for any build up to NTR.

yeah, I was talking about LV, but I meant it in general, it happens all the time in different games.
as for LV - it didn't ruined it for me - because personally I consider that game as a collection of super-hot animations, nothing than that, like GetOutOfMyLab said - it's hard to take that game seriously, and it's sad, if it only had a good story... eh, dreams

Imagine this: Your gorgeous sister who's been gone for a long time returns home and things are finally heating up between you. She playfully steals your phone and you go after her. You end up on the couch with her ass pressed against your cock and she's holding your hands against her firm breasts as she tries to prevent you from reaching your phone. All of a sudden, the loud, obnoxious, and forever intruding, Vanessa barges in and ruins the moment.

please, don't give TTrick ideas