Yeah same, sadly the mainstream public only likes college themed games that are vanilla, you go to the largest forum on reddit about avns and they always talk about the same 3 popular games. And they see something that is moderately non-vanilla and they get scared. Really annoying imo.
yeah, I also buy them on steam when the release model is to my liking . But if they do the seasonal release or dlc or whatever then it's a no for me. I'd rather sub for a month on patreon when a new update is out.
don't get me started on reddit, and especially their "contests"... always the same fucking 5 games in every category, it's driving me nuts
tbh, i feel like the patrion model incentivizes "do less, get more" theres no need to develop work efficiency, partnerships, or anything that could speed up dev cycles without dropping quality. under this system, if i put myself in a devs shoes, all of that is bad, and not worth the time or effort. thats why i agree with those that buy from steam, or only sub for the month of a release.
*mainstream public that current consumes these games. I genuinely believe the real world public has a much greater variety of sexual tastes - and that would extend to adult games they would play. Unfortunately, this market seems to be stuck in the current demographic - meaning the "REEE NTR REEE?" types (and others). Which is why I'm all for modernizing and popularizing adult games to a broader audience; itll be good for everyone except the harem ree rees. (well incest fans might suffer too
)100% - I think the model you mentioned paired with a demographic who's already inclined to be a loner; that extends to being resistent towards partnerships, group projects, etc - but all those things raise the probability of projects falling through. If anyone doesn't understand why this is relevant - imagine a real world business who said "we're going to put the entire success of our business on one guy. And no matter how many customers we get, we will never grow our team, it will all be up to one guy". Shocker then things so often go tits up.
) has fantastic butt, second only to her upper half! Can't wait for more progression with her.
I don't agree in that once a person's reputation is ruined, it's difficult to come back from that. So the incentive is to keep existing and bring in more subscribers by providing new content. Of course, not all subscribers actively monitor who they are subbing to. But I do. As soon as I feel uncomfortable by the level of communication or lack of content, I'll unsub. I wish more people would approach Patreon, SubStar, etc. with that mindset.
You should make a top 3 incest games of all time(well incest fans might suffer too
Same here, I am currently supportin 19 devs, it's a bit much. But I do not want to cut anyone of them loose. None of them are that big and like every other supporter you hope you're making a difference.
That's exactly how I look at it. For the smaller devs, every sub counts. And I know it means a lot to them. They are happy that people enjoy their game so much that they'd pay money regularly to support them.
not long ago i would have agreed, but consumers in general have gotten stupid. idiots will sleep in a parking lot for the chance to be the first dumbfuck with a new i phone, which is just like the last 1 "but bro, smaller bezel, and new case color!" lol.
as i said before, the patrion model is a big issue with avn's. getting paid for completed work removes the milker cries from unreasonable consumers, and the "but im only a part timer" rebuttle from devs who want full time pay for part time work. both sides of the same bullshit coin. the best thing for reasonable/honest consumers/devs, is to pay for completed work.
I do agree that consumers, in general, have become pretty stupid. I also acknowledge what you're referring to in terms of "dropping a few good renders". I'm sure we can both think of a few names of devs who are notorious for that and the simps keep simpin'.
The thing about the subscription model is... anyone can choose to stop supporting when they're unhappy. They can also choose to adjust how much they support. You mention full-time pay for part-time work... how do you determine that? If they work at least 40 hours a week on their job that pays the bills... and then use their free-time to work on games, while also spending time with their families as not to neglect them... I mean, how much time a day do you expect a part-time/hobby dev to spend on a game? Do you think a few hundred dollars a month that some devs get will allow them to buy groceries and pay their rent, among other expenses? Even devs that get a couple thousand dollars a month... Apartments where I live can be low-end $1,400/mo to over $5,000/mo, depending on number of rooms, location, etc.
i only brought up the communication because it was 1 of the reasons you gave to remove support from a dev. i think info other than what the girls tits look like today is rare from him, maybe im just nosy, its also possible that you having a lot of access to info on game development is making you bias on the matter in this case. hes your friend, this is surely an agree to disagree situation.
That is true, and I agree on how the sub model promotes milking. But the other model, delivering only finished games for sale, would also mean there would be way way way less games out there. I mean, with that model, every single game that is still a work in progress would not be available until it was finished and was sellable. Now consider all the games you follow, and imagine that each one of them that's still a wip was not available. Including this one. How many games would you be left with?
I always felt like using the word hobby is inappropriate in any context where someone is getting paid for something. No, the states aren't mutually exclusive, but as chuck detailed above far too many devs use this as a folksy fallback.
This conversations a bit complicated for me Johnny so, let's talk about more sexy thinks like hoping Chris ruins Ann's pussy so she can't feel me for a week.
Damn, now that's some life goals right there!
