- Thread starter TTrick
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Because a lot of people find the adult games through this forum, and a lot of us will patreon for the game if it's something we like.
TBF there's also zero posts on their patreon page. The last post is a preview pic from February.
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I don't get this. Why not post something on Patreon. Not so F95 will remove the tag, but because Patreon is your official page. People won't find the discord until they find the Patreon page. This seems both unnecessary and backwards. Even if 99% of your communication is on discord, why would you want to leave your Patreon page blank for more than 3 months?
The rules here, as far as I know, relate to Patreon. Why on God's green earth would you leave your Patreon page - the place where all the people who are funding your project go for updates- blank? That's just lazy.
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It exceeds laziness, it's actually more suspicious. I'm not claiming anything nafarious, but it is suspicious just the same. When the creators of Double Homework suddenly went silent for two weeks on Patreon while being very active on Discord it was because their main guy had died suddenly and he was the only one with access to the Patreon account. That's how extreme it is for a Patreon page to go silent.
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i guess i won't be seeing Vanessa anymore. R.I.P LSS
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That means that nothing of consequence has been worked on or completed in three months? Not a teaser? A poll to engage patrons? Nothing at all worth showing? That doesn't strike you as weird?
Dude, even if you don't have something of consequence, you owe it to the people who are financially supporting you to keep them apprised of the status of the project. Even if it is a minor update, you owe them something to let them know that progress is being made and their money is not being wasted. This is how you lose backers.
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That's the thing, some people just don't understand how important communication is. You have to keep that line of communication open and active at all times. Engaging with your patrons, even when you don't think there's really anything to tell them, is massively important. In fact, arguably, it is most important to keep engaged with them on your official Patreon page when there isn't much to show them. Every single patron has seen creators crash and burn, and some of those patrons have been burned in the process. Everyone is constantly on edge for warning signs that a game is floundering. If a Patreon page goes quiet for months at a time, those fears are going to be stoked. IMO a creator that releases a new update every 3+ months should at minimum be posting to Patreon 3 times a month just to keep their patrons engaged. Fine, sometimes you get busy at it may only be twice. In a real emergency, once a month- but that's bad. To go MONTHS without a single post? No way, something's wrong.
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For me the worst thing is Ttrick has posted 3 times on discord.
First to say that if game is tagged as abandoned here doesn't mean they abandoned it. (Not saying clearly if it is or not).
Later that he is doing good. When asked if he was ok. (But didn´t answer when asked when will he come back).
And the last one two days ago saying game is not dead.
I get that they can have some problems and maybe the guy in charge of the patreon site cannot post because is ill but given they can send messages through discord they should tell on "Announcements" the reasons of these delay and why they cannot post on patreon. Lots of Devs have delayed their proyects last months but kept people´s trust posting regularly and telling the reasons of the delay.
But as they paused billing last month i get thay have access to patreon so...
IMO they are hiding something big they should have told patreons. And I don´t think they have to wait a lot to see how most of their patreons fly away and then it will be too late.
First to say that if game is tagged as abandoned here doesn't mean they abandoned it. (Not saying clearly if it is or not).
Later that he is doing good. When asked if he was ok. (But didn´t answer when asked when will he come back).
And the last one two days ago saying game is not dead.
I get that they can have some problems and maybe the guy in charge of the patreon site cannot post because is ill but given they can send messages through discord they should tell on "Announcements" the reasons of these delay and why they cannot post on patreon. Lots of Devs have delayed their proyects last months but kept people´s trust posting regularly and telling the reasons of the delay.
But as they paused billing last month i get thay have access to patreon so...
IMO they are hiding something big they should have told patreons. And I don´t think they have to wait a lot to see how most of their patreons fly away and then it will be too late.
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Communication should not be ignored, and the idea that someone communicating their issues is more suspicious than someone who just drops off the face of the planet is really backwards to me.
The fact that the dev has had time to post on discord, but not give a relevant or substantial update, is very odd. Clearly he is around, and clearly he is aware of the concern, so he's going out of his way to not address it in a meaningful way. From a purely business POV you would think he'd want to quash any concerns as soon as possible by giving a meaningful update. Since he hasn't done that I don't think it's wrong to assume he CAN'T do it. If he can't communicate in greater detail that there isn't a problem, then whatever problem there is must be pretty significant.
I mean, I'm new to this thread so I have no skin in the game. After reading about the game I was ready to support it on Patreon but saw that everything was paused; from there I caught up on the thread. So from my perspective, even if they unfreeze the Patreon, I don't know if I'll support if this is the way they communicate when times get rough. If this is strictly a hobby that's fine, it shouldn't be a priority, but if I'm paying and you're running a business then expectations naturally change. In a world where games are abandoned all the time, if you can't keep lines of communication open that's a huge red flag to stay away.
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It isn't shade to say that communication could be better. I don't think anything I've said is overly hostile towards the dev. Now if they come back and say something like "hey guys, sorry for the long absence. Shit just got complicated here and for (insert a simple, not too detailed because we don't need personal details, but still explanatory statement) I wasn't able to communicate with you guys like I would have normally. I apologize, but I hope you understand. Blah blah blah." that would probably be a relief for everyone. You're right that the dev seems like a good guy, and that he did the right thing by pausing payments this month; for those reasons he should be commended. My comments aren't insinuating anything negative about him or his work effort, my comments come from a place of concern because it's not good to see someone just drop off like this. Clearly it's something serious, so I hope everything turns out ok.
They have issues currently, on which they will communicate about (normally). That's why last time I said they should post on patreon soon, I didn't expect they'd still not have done it by now, but trust me there's a good reason. Be patient, the good news is that LSS isn't abandonned at least.
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Just read on Patreon that TTrick decided to split from Kamo, and will be continuing the game on his new Patreon now. There will be changes made according to the post but he doesn't go into what yet.
I dunno... We'll see what the future brings for this game i guess...
I dunno... We'll see what the future brings for this game i guess...