VN Others Long Story Short [v0.9 final] [TTrickGames]

[Harem Trooper]

I was talking about Vanessa as a whole. Since you cant even avoid her there is no Path for her, at least I dont see what the big difference for her is in the whole game. You can ONLY change her after she fucked with multiple dudes while you was watching them, or you can let it roll how it already started and enjoy the fuck fest.

In my playthrough I picked Ann over Vanesse for the first meeting so that I dont have to see her blowing Chris. (But also I wanted to see/keep/try Ann "pure" lol. Yeah I know but I said I try. If there is Path where I needed to choose Vanessa over Ann then the scene with Chris is your first unavoidable NTR scene.
Then there is the Sex + Blowing BJ for Joe which is not avoidable but its your typical "They are in relationship so watching them bang dosent count". But no mater what I pick, Vanessa will still fuck the guy in the bathroom. The scene with Mario where he fingers her is at least avoidable. But here is what I dont get the logic. You have the option not to let it happen but her fucking in the bathroom is not.

I aimed to steal Vanessa from Joe but whats the difference when I tell Joe to breake up with her or not ?
Will he continue to be with her in relationship and this will close her Path or will it just prolong their relationship while MC bangs her behind his back ?

The other scene I couldnt avoid was the sex scene with Ramona and James. Another "They are in relationship so watching them bang dosent count" type of BS. At least it could be shown that she is not statisfied in your "non"-NTR path so that i get at least something from this scene but I blame here the piss poor writting.
Hence I said that this game is all about sluts and corrupting one girl into one.

By the way, I agree with what phreadom says about this whole NTR in the game, even the "avoidable" scenes (which are not). I blame the tags on this forum and since we dont have "Main Love Interest(s) fuck other guys besides MC", the NTR tag will do because thats what it means for me and the other people who get angry at such scenes.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

But no mater what I pick, Vanessa will still fuck the guy in the bathroom.

The bathroom at Joe's birthday party? Tell Joe to turn around and nothing happens. All she does is dance with the guy and then Joe gets mad.

I aimed to steal Vanessa from Joe but whats the difference when I tell Joe to breake up with her or not ?
Will he continue to be with her in relationship and this will close her Path or will it just prolong their relationship while MC bangs her behind his back ?

We don't know yet. Probably but we'll need to wait for more updates. If you want her for yourself and you don't like her hooking up with anyone, even Joe, then I think you'll probably want to tell him to dump her.

The other scene I couldnt avoid was the sex scene with Ramona and James. Another "They are in relationship so watching them bang dosent count" type of BS. At least it could be shown that she is not statisfied in your "non"-NTR path so that i get at least something from this scene but I blame here the piss poor writting.

Who are either of these people? Don't remember either of their names and when I search them nobody else has even mentioned them in this thread.

By the way, I agree with what @phreadom says about this whole NTR in the game, even the "avoidable" scenes (which are not). I blame the tags on this forum and since we dont have "Main Love Interest(s) fuck other guys besides MC", the NTR tag will do because thats what it means for me and the other people who get angry at such scenes.

A tag isn't defined by its haters, it's defined by its fans. NTR means stealing, there's no stealing going on with Vanessa, she isn't yours. If we started defining NTR as any sex scene involving a male who isn't the MC then all of a sudden actual NTR fans aren't going to be able to use the tag to find games anymore.

The sex scenes with Vanessa having sex with other guys are voyeurism scenes.
The scenes where Chris or Joe are seducing, corrupting or taking advantage of Ann while on her path are NTR scenes. Both are tagged, and the toggle works correctly.

 

[Harem Trooper]

The bathroom at Joe's birthday party? Tell Joe to turn around and nothing happens. All she does is dance with the guy and then Joe gets mad.

I tried both like I already said. Its the same outcome.

Who are either of these people? Don't remember either of their names and when I search them nobody else has even mentioned them in this thread.

Ramona is Vanessas mother and James is her Dad. It the scene when he was about to bang Vanessa but got cockblocked by them and we are forced to watch them fuck. And ofcourse the MC enjoys watching them fuck...

A tag isn't defined by its haters, it's defined by its fans.

Who says that ? Its a description of a specific genre within the game/manga etc. Nothing more and nothing less. It can be used for either attract people who are looking for it but also as a warning so people dont get butt hurt when it happend.
Game has NTR tag but in descriptions it says its avoidable, which is not.

NTR means stealing, there's no stealing going on with Vanessa, she isn't yours.

And thats why I said its your typical "They arnt in a relationship so watching her bang others dosent count" type of excuse. In other posts I mentioned this before and I see this trick used many times. Mostly in Manhwas but also here in western adult VN.

If we started defining NTR as any sex scene involving a male who isn't the MC then all of a sudden actual NTR fans aren't going to be able to use the tag to find games anymore.

Exactly, hence I said -> I blame the tags on this forum and since we dont have "Main Love Interest(s) fuck other guys besides MC", the NTR tag will do because thats what it means for me and the other people who get angry at such scenes.
Thats what important for me when I see the tag "NTR (Avoidable)...

The sex scenes with Vanessa having sex with other guys are voyeurism scenes.
The scenes where Chris or Joe are seducing, corrupting or taking advantage of Ann while on her path are NTR scenes. Both are tagged, and the toggle works correctly.

The tags are corrcet here but I didnt mentioned anything about this part. I mentioned that the NTR is not avoidable and that the romance tag is missleading.
The problem with Vanessa scenes being voyeurism is what phreadom tried to explain.
Technically its only voyeurism but with this logic you can have your LI, which Vanessa is since you cant even avoid her, being fucked by other guys through the whole game only that at the very end to end up with her so it dosent count as NTR.
And like I said, this late in the game and she still fucks other people arround.

The problem in such games like these is even when I picked her path, you still got to watch her fucking arround even when you already made it clear that you dont want have NTR. Perhaps is that the Dev have different point of view since MC in the game mentioned he dosent feel cucked, but like phreadom said, from my POV as the player which also gets the option to change the name I feel different.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

I tried both like I already said. Its the same outcome.

I think that happens on the Joe rival path, but not on any of the other Vanessa or Ann paths. That path is also objectively worse than all the other Vanessa paths because it ends up gating you out of some of her content. So far it just exists to setup the Joe Ann bj.
If you tell Joe to turn around then she doesn't go into the bathroom with that guy. If Joe isn't there then he can't stop it, the scene absolutely is avoidable though.

Technically its only voyeurism but with this logic you can have your LI, which Vanessa is since you cant even avoid her, being fucked by other guys through the whole game only that at the very end to end up with her so it dosent count as NTR.
And like I said, this late in the game and she still fucks other people arround.

Yes. That's exactly it. She isn't the MC's, he doesn't view her as his and he doesn't get jealous about her slutting it up. Watching her have sex is voyeurism. If he thought of her as his, or if other guys were stealing her away from him then it'd be NTR, but it's not. She's just a slutty friend he hooks up with occasionally.
That's why I said you shouldn't treat this as a self insert. The MC's priorities and perspective obviously doesn't align with your own. He is his own character and there's only so far we get to go to shape how he develops. You can get as jealous or upset as you want but unless the MC feels the same that's all on you.

 

[Harem Trooper]

I think that happens on the Joe rival path, but not on any of the other Vanessa or Ann paths. That path is also objectively worse than all the other Vanessa paths because it ends up gating you out of some of her content. So far it just exists to setup the Joe Ann bj.
If you tell Joe to turn around then she doesn't go into the bathroom with that guy. If Joe isn't there then he can't stop it, the scene absolutely is avoidable though.

This is what I picked:

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Yes. That's exactly it. She isn't the MC's, he doesn't view her as his and he doesn't get jealous about her slutting it up.
Watching her have sex is voyeurism. If he thought of her as his, or if other guys were stealing her away from him then it'd be NTR, but it's not. She's just a slutty friend he hooks up with occasionally.

Were you listening what I said ? I gave you even a example man.
Since she is forced up on me even if I dont invite her from the beginning its kinda hard to ignore her and you automaticly start to have a relationship with her. Through the whole game she is present even if I tried to ignore her.
This is always a mistake I see some people make when they tried to mix such things in. I get that some people dont mind if she is a slut which can be redeemed (which Vanessa dosent seem to be such a character) but there is a difference when you specificly picked the "non"-NTR path so you dont have to watch her fucking infront of you.
I dont mind if this happens in the "normal" ntr/sharing path since I dont play it but I got a problem when its shoved in my throat like this game does.
Her sex scene is through the whole game, even to this update and since she showed she will fuck others I doubt this will change soon, at least thats what I think from playing this game and reading from the other comments.

That's why I said you shouldn't treat this as a self insert. The MC's priorities and perspective obviously doesn't align with your own.

Yeah Im aware that AFTER I played it lol. But you have to agree that when the game says that the NTR is avoidable, the game supposed to have romance, then you can rename the MC ingame its kinda hard not to self insert like many people do.
But dont get me wrong, that dosent mean I will follow it where the game is going since the beginning is already fucked up for me taste its just that the description is miss leading.

He is his own character and there's only so far we get to go to shape how he develops. You can get as jealous or upset as you want but unless the MC feels the same that's all on you.

Again, I gave you example and I suggest to read what phreadom said here and also what he wrote in the seperate topic about the NTR in Area69. Thats why "unless the MC feels the same that's all on you" dosent fly here, at least not in this game with that description.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Again, I gave you example and I suggest to read what @phreadom said here and also what he wrote in the seperate topic about the NTR in Area69. Thats why "unless the MC feels the same that's all on you" dosent fly here, at least not in this game with that description.

Because what he wrote just tells anybody who reads it that he doesn't have the faintest idea what NTR is. His knowledge about it obviously came from wiki pages instead of NTR doujins.
Your character is only your avatar in the game world for as much as you can relate to them by. If you're experiencing emotions that the MC isn't then they aren't your avatar, they're just the perspective through which you view the story.

Keep listening -> Tell him to turn around -> She goes away with the dude to the bathroom -> Dont tell him -> MC goes to the bathroom to confirm she is a nympho, sex scene with her sucking him off.

I'm not sure what to tell you, other than that you clicked say nothing. I just double checked on like 3 different paths. Even if you drug Joe he gets pissed off when you tell him to turn around. If you got the option to "Tell him the details" or "Don't tell him" then you clicked on say nothing. If you tell Joe to turn around then this happens.

And then they leave.

 

[GV10]

Android version of new update?

 

[Mdk]

Anything on the dev update on his Patreon?

 

[Harem Trooper]

Because what he wrote just tells anybody who reads it that he doesn't have the faintest idea what NTR is. His knowledge about it obviously came from wiki pages instead of NTR doujins.
Your character is only your avatar in the game world for as much as you can relate to them by. If you're experiencing emotions that the MC isn't then they aren't your avatar, they're just the perspective through which you view the story.

Where he gets his info dosent matter to me since its up to the point. I know NTR only from doujins and korean adult toons (because they even more fucked up then your regular japanese guy) and I think the same what he mentioned. Personally I dont want to see NTR in the game, its that simple. The game said its avoidable but its not, hence the examples I gave you or what he wrote in the other posts whats the issue is.

I get it that what here is not real NTR (speaking of the "non"-NTR path) but more of voyeurism but the player, at least such players like myself, wont see it that way.
The voyeurism scenes are not with some background character but the/one of the Main Love interest. And since she still gets shoved in your throat AFTER you made the game clear you dont want anything to do with her. I really dont like to name this fuckery as NTR but thats the only definition which is clearer to understand when you put it in.
A example is cheating tag. When a LI cheats on her BF, which is not the MC, it gets the tag. Same action but its on MC its NTR.
I wish there would be better differentiate on the tags here but the mods just refuse for some reason. As it would costs them millions to add this to the list.
Im one of the problem and we all know how much pointless these debates are. I also would prefer to fap instead of typing whole block of text but since this simple issue wont be resolved it will always repeat itself again and again. And people look dumbfounded when it happens once again....

I'm not sure what to tell you, other than that you clicked say nothing. I just double checked on like 3 different paths. Even if you drug Joe he gets pissed off when you tell him to turn around. If you got the option to "Tell him the details" or "Don't tell him" then you clicked on say nothing. If you tell Joe to turn around then this happens.
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And then they leave.

Welp, will you look at that.
I still dont get the scenes tho but I have the current version. I even downloaded from a different download server but I still get this problem. Did you tried my choices ?
Now for the more interesting stuff:
You can Drug Joe ?
Never got the option before. Is it because I was "friendly" with him ? Dont get me wrong, when Vanessa is at least shoved in my throat, I want at least cuck him on the maximum level. (Hence I asked if Joe will still bang Vanessa if you suggest not to break up with her or when you suggest for him to do it, that it will only happen much later.)
I know, Joe is decent guy but the Stealing, aka Netori was the main eye catch in this whole damn game...

 

[-DarkHorizon-]

I'll never understand why certain people feel the need to whine about the content in a game instead of saying, "Yeah... this isn't for me." and simply move on.

I've checked out lots of games and most of them ended up uninteresting to me, but I didn't go complaining in the threads about what's in or not in the game. I simply delete the game and that's it.

 

[JoeAngel]

everytime i check my Bell I see you guys talkin about this I said the girl is Nympho read what i said

The true Of bad Girl First of all she is sick Nympho
meaning Her feeling of guilt is OFF Second she chose to call the mc to get the excited feeling of taking her Friend BF before they be and also the Feel that she's doing something Wrong and that is cheating on her BF with his Best Friend Third For God Sake look at her Family They don't Have any clue that they have She Devil as daughter and she Enjoy this way to much for years
I do hope that she loves The mc and change But I guess this Naive Probably, as I said Nympho Can't Be Loyel if they can that would be awesome and good and all that
Love is Soul Bond & Lust is Blind act

so does it matter I mean Ntr SH*T and All that I hate it to by the way as i said it would Be awesome if She turn from SEX head to Love head and love The Mc and never Cheat on him but let's be honest a Women who cheat on her Best friend date and
seduce her boyfriend Best friend Do you think she can be good ? i mean we all wish to see BAD girl have heart to and turn to bad girl only for her Man and all that but again read what i said you will get it she could lie to her own Family the one's that bring her to this world......it hurt when you see heartless people but what can you do there is a scene I saw in funny anime it wasn't funny but it was similar he killed his Flirty wife after he finally did a Hero thing i was searching around to find the video but i found something close to this

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remember what the mc bet if i can't change you i will be like you
so in the end i am happy i don't know what in this new version 0.8 i just saw 0.7 so i am good that i didn't see her do something to the mc to Joey enough he was the one to tell the mc let's go

 

[Knucklenaut]

So there's still no actual NTR sex scenes with Ann? Like I know you can't just unload everything players want immediately, you have to keep people hooked somehow for your game to succeed through development which I understand. That said, this string of bait of updates that don't actually have any content except fixes and tweaks to old content are getting into the "yikes" territory.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

So there's still no actual NTR sex scenes with Ann? Like I know you can't just unload everything players want immediately, you have to keep people hooked somehow for your game to succeed through development which I understand.

If you're referring to intercourse, no, that hasn't happened yet. So far, on Joe Rival path, she is tricked into giving Joe a blow job while blindfolded. On Love w/Corruption path, she can end up sitting with Chris (player choice) at the theater and Chris will touch her everywhere. Also, MC can invite Chris to help Ann rehearse, which leads to her giving him a blowjob.

That said, this string of bait of updates that don't actually have any content except fixes and tweaks to old content are getting into the "yikes" territory.

What do you mean? This last update added content on Ann's Love route (no corruption) and also added Emily content.

 

[Knucklenaut]

What do you mean? This last update added content on Ann's Love route (no corruption) and also added Emily content.
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Full transparency; I am strictly going off patch notes for 7.0 and 8.0. I didn't actually play through either updates because I didn't see any content I wanted added yet so I could be mistaken or misunderstanding the highlighted additions but yeah I love the game but everything except the Ann corruption/sharing path is just supporting content to me I suppose.

 

[shotzpro]

Any Good Friend can show us the last post of TTrick on patreon ?

 

[akiostein]

Android port please

 

[JoeAngel]

shreks my post been deleted

 

[kylemyer]

Patiently waiting on that's android port

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

There's also a scene in the files of Ann giving Chris a blowjob in his car, no idea how to get it though.

If I recall, it's a memory that she tells MC and Vanessa when they return to Vanessa's house after the bar. I think it happens when MC gets on her hate path at the bar. She ends up running outside and that's where she ends up with Chris. But you don't know what happens until later on when she tells the story at Vanessa's (and even then you can decide not to hear it or not).

 

[Crowangel]

just wanted to check something as i seem to have ended up 'jumping' to the 4 of them in Joe's car on the way to the makeout hobo area.. i could understand if i was on the route that had all 4 people but on 1 it jumped after stopping joe from making a blindfolded Ann blow him.. and on another a convo with Vanessa jumped to the car again.. is it because of incomplete scenes or did i encounter something glitchy