I agree with You BigDaddyDom. But V19 and L7Bear are not MIA. They log here in F95zone evry day. They just choose to ignore what little fans they got and stay silent. Last year when Cedsense blocked Our Fate Remake that they where making I was pissed but now I think its for the best. They would probably abandoned it like this game anyway.I don't understand how on May 8th they announce they begun the rendering phase, but then suddenly they can't render because the story isn't done?
4 months in now and both devs have gone MIA. Started suspecting a while ago that this would be abandoned if they didn't get patreons fast enough...Come on guys, you won't get new patreons if you don't actually develop the game, add content, or advertise it
Getting tired of new games with lots of promise that get abandoned because the devs have unrealistic expectations...
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Yeah, I agree, the ignoring of this thread makes it worse, and is another bad sign. I too was pissed about the killing of the Our Fate Remake, but seeing how easily they de-prioritize this game you're right that they would have probably done the same thing with that project. It's annoying after all the initial hype for both..shouldn't have got hopes up
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Edited to add: Please take the rest of this post with a grain of salt, as you can see the devs have indeed not gone incommunicado, just prioritize talking to their patrons, which I understand completely...
I do stand by my opinion, that I shouldn't review games after the first version is posted, and that it is right to wait until a game has a few regular updates under its belt (before a review AND before becoming a patron). This is a general rule though and not directed or aimed specifically at this game or the devs. I like the game and hope it becomes a big success and continues to improve. If perhaps my post comes off as more negative than intended, it is probably due to me being frustrated due to fearing another game I liked has run into problems. There were a few of those I found out about today and yesterday and that sucks.
Damn, update significantly delayed and devs being completely quiet about it, that is not a good sign.
I had high hopes for this game, sure it was far from perfect (except for the great renders), but it has potential.
And a good daughter-father game in the vein of Our Fate was a long-time coming.
But, the way this is going makes me realize two things, first: I really shouldn't review games after the first update and secondly, I am right to only consider becoming a patron after the game has a few significant updates under its belt.
I hope this continues, but even if it does, you can't build up support by delaying the first actual update OR by going incommunicado, that destroys trust, it doesn't build it.
This could be the best game in the genre and I would still not consider supporting it, if they can't even get a few updates in without problems.
And it's not that I don't understand that sometimes things don't work out as they should, but communicate that at least, damn.
I do stand by my opinion, that I shouldn't review games after the first version is posted, and that it is right to wait until a game has a few regular updates under its belt (before a review AND before becoming a patron). This is a general rule though and not directed or aimed specifically at this game or the devs. I like the game and hope it becomes a big success and continues to improve. If perhaps my post comes off as more negative than intended, it is probably due to me being frustrated due to fearing another game I liked has run into problems. There were a few of those I found out about today and yesterday and that sucks.
Damn, update significantly delayed and devs being completely quiet about it, that is not a good sign.
I had high hopes for this game, sure it was far from perfect (except for the great renders), but it has potential.
And a good daughter-father game in the vein of Our Fate was a long-time coming.
But, the way this is going makes me realize two things, first: I really shouldn't review games after the first update and secondly, I am right to only consider becoming a patron after the game has a few significant updates under its belt.
I hope this continues, but even if it does, you can't build up support by delaying the first actual update OR by going incommunicado, that destroys trust, it doesn't build it.
This could be the best game in the genre and I would still not consider supporting it, if they can't even get a few updates in without problems.
And it's not that I don't understand that sometimes things don't work out as they should, but communicate that at least, damn.
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Let me go over your reply.You have the worst timing i've ever seen
If you were a patron maybe you would have seen that I made a post some hours ago.
Let's go over your points and see if I can clarify anything.
-"Significantly delayed". No such thing, even if it were true (is not) I don't think one month is insane in terms of a delay, I mean take a look at other projects.
I originally planned to release the update early this month (Not that I said It will be released for sure, just maybe) several things happened. The original update that was planned was smaller than the final one (like half the content) but it got bigger as we were working on it. The writer had some problems and he couldn't work on the game so I have been working with a handicap as my workflow involves using the dialogues as storyboard.
-"being completely quiet about it". I've been responding to every message I got on patreon and my *last* post was from 14th last month.
-" I would still not consider supporting it, if they can't even get a few updates in without problems."
Complains about no comunication. Complains about dev comunicating if there's a "problem".
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And btw the reason I don't post here often.
1. It's unfair to the people supporting the game, if I have the time and energy to answer or engage with the community I think it's fair to prioritise those who support "me", no?
2. Toxicity, yeah self explanatory for this website, doesn't feel very pleasing to engage with passive agressive or negative comments and people.
Does all of this sound reasonable?
There you go, I hope this post makes some things clear and I don't come across as a douche.
I am as stated not yet a Patreon, I did however check your account just some hours ago, so I must really just literally have missed it.
Well, you originally intended the update to be released in early June, as stated in your Patreon post from June the 14th.
Since no other information was available here, or in your visible or shared (here) Patreon posts, and we now have the 30th of July, that would make it very close to two full months since the update was originally supposed to be released. 2 months in my opinion is a significant delay, whether it's a few days more or less.
I am sure your patrons appreciate you answering their messages, that is more than many other devs do, once delays hit, but as I stated, I am not (yet) a patron, there was no other information to be found here, and several users posted that you and the writer went completely quiet.
I can only go from the information available to me, even if it isn't complete, and considering that you both were active members here before, it isn't wrong to notice this change in posting behaviour, again, even if, as you state, there is a reason for that.
As for the next bit, I did not and do not complain about a dev communicating a problem, you seem to have misunderstood something.
All I'm saying in my op, is that, before I decide to part with my hard-earned money, I want to see some regular updates, and that is the case even if the game is fantastic. I don't think that my approach to this is wrong, but you are of course free to disagree. This is also not aimed at you, your work or your game specifically, that is a rule for MY behaviour on Patreon
Last but not least, I don't see how my post was supposedly toxic or passive-aggressive. It was negative, yes, while still saying that I understand that there are valid reasons for delays and that the game has potential, and I have (had) high hopes for it.
Again, I was going by what was visible on your Patreon and by the comments in this thread and your changed behaviour on this site (I do understand that you want to prioritise your patrons, that is only logical, but it is still a difference from the behaviour you and your writer showed before).
Let me say this, I am sorry that my post here came with such bad timing, if I had seen your new Patreon post before, I would probably just have shared that here and asked if a patron could share the message. But I do not have any ill will or negative intentions in regard to you, your writer or your game. On the contrary, I think it has a lot of potential, as I stated in my 4-star review, and I hope it becomes great and you two have a ton of success with it. That is completely honest.
Which is something I try to be, which means I will praise, but also criticize what I perceive as wrong.
And no, you didn't come off as a douche, but as a bit defensive, though that is completely understandable under these circumstances.
I won't delete my post, as I hate it when there is a part of the conversation missing, but I will write an addendum to update it, to counter the negative impact (hopefully).
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Tbh communication from devs means nothing, actions are more important.
1st release: 2022-03-22
Today: 2022-07-30
2nd release: Nobody knows.
Not a promising start for a project.
1st release: 2022-03-22
Today: 2022-07-30
2nd release: Nobody knows.
Not a promising start for a project.
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No hero, respect the Developer's Early Access, bro
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Well, Mr. Captain America, sorry to break this to you but this is a PIRACY SITE and here things happen differently.
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Oh, thank god. So you're gonna put it up for the rest of us, right?Well, Mr. Captain America, sorry to break this to you but this is a PIRACY SITE and here things happen differently.
We have all waited months for the new update, you can wait a couple more days for it.Well, Mr. Captain America, sorry to break this to you but this is a PIRACY SITE and here things happen differently.
To me you never were, but the MC sure is, as he said we surely have no other daughters, sisters or even nieces. Yes it was quite a while but I remember his words. I don't trust him.
Jokes aside, thank you for your content, and good luck on future endeavours.
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Just finished the first update, I rarely play 0.1 versions of a game but the plot looked interesting and well I kinda thought the renders looked good. I gotta say I enjoyed it a lot, I don't really like the whole MC being a creep thing but whatever. Most devs on here watch/read too much japanese porn/hentai and only get off on über creeps and cucks/imbecilic boys anyway, so kinda ignoring that part.
I do have to say that while it had a promising start I raise an eyebrow at how short the update was. Some cool scenes but in terms of time spent it felt very short. I think devs who want to start making a career out of this or at least make extra money need to realize they need a STRONG opening, something that makes people go "Wow... that was good". 30 minutes of content in a story heavy game isn't enough in my book. Especially when the second update takes nearly 5 months.
I went into the game pretty much blind, only having looked at the rating and synopsis, and found the discussion going on about devs after finishing. Feels like these devs need to realize that this is probably their biggest promotional platform for their game. Yes it's a piracy forum but it's not like we're talking mainstream games here and communication is key. I hope the dev changes his outlook on communicating here and I sincerely hope the game picks up development speed. Otherwise I see no chance that this isn't another game that stays forever in development...
I do have to say that while it had a promising start I raise an eyebrow at how short the update was. Some cool scenes but in terms of time spent it felt very short. I think devs who want to start making a career out of this or at least make extra money need to realize they need a STRONG opening, something that makes people go "Wow... that was good". 30 minutes of content in a story heavy game isn't enough in my book. Especially when the second update takes nearly 5 months.
I went into the game pretty much blind, only having looked at the rating and synopsis, and found the discussion going on about devs after finishing. Feels like these devs need to realize that this is probably their biggest promotional platform for their game. Yes it's a piracy forum but it's not like we're talking mainstream games here and communication is key. I hope the dev changes his outlook on communicating here and I sincerely hope the game picks up development speed. Otherwise I see no chance that this isn't another game that stays forever in development...
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