Most wouldn't have the resources anyway for that or to sue - though they could boot them from Patreon or such.
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She's not related to the MC anyway so no big deal to me (family first, dunno why most people prefer fucking randoms they barely know in comparison). MC's "daughter" is not really his, now that is a problem.
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Let's delete this.
Dude, stop making a big deal out of something that doesn't exist. There is nothing at all that would disprove paternity.
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I am very confused. I am replying from zero. Game says this text. But I get this in game..
But the rest of the text suggest patch is there?
Can anyone explain if it is a bug or what is going on?
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Seems to be going back and forth... My guess some bug remaining then...
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yeah, the included patch is bugged, but a few posts back someone smarter than most posted a patch that fixes the pre-applied broken one. All this chaos just in the hope to stay on some shit platforms that doesn't want his AVN on there to appease payment processors, so now it's not even worth supporting in the first place so might as well just skip the platforms, make it for free and setup a crypto tip jar, and avoid all this.
The prettiest character in the whole story was actually the fat guy's wife. Game over....
Now I suspect the author is that blond fat guy-Oscar.
Damn it, I need a password to play. Oh well, it's not fun anyway, and there's no Dennis.
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So that's where all the noise comes from. In the game, Andy(name) - girl. Have you ever thought that most likely the author just likes unusual names? It is almost always applied to someone who has died simultaneously with the mention of his daughter. Personally, I had no other thoughts except that it was about daughter.
Well, or I don’t know, if you really want, in your imagination, glue a penis to the girl (Isabella’s mother). Gender-name statistics are so important.
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It's no different to any other game with that tag that is on the main payment platforms. It's tagged incest because there is easily unlockable (via patch or relationship picking) incest in it, and in most cases (including this one, as per the original release and title) it's also clearly the dev's intent.
The issue here is that the associated patch is not a good one, as it relies on translation files - so it's a case of see "this" line, replace it with "that" line, only some of the lines don't correctly match up, and so are not replaced. For example, "She's Matthew's daughter" should become "She's my daughter", but the patch was looking for "She is Matthew's daugther" so because it didn't find the line that was actually used in the game, it didn't replace it. As noted though, someone has put out a "fixed" copy of the patch to catch errors like that.
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This was the fattest sarcasm. I understand why the incest tag is there, I saw it in the game.
All this noise arose only because the author chose a name for the girl, which in our timeline is considered exclusively male, and the subcortex of the brain of many players considered that we were talking about some random guy. Which is obviously not true.
There is literally no situation in the game where "she's my daughter" will be used. The girl who could talk like that died. You are talking to Agatha about HER daughter. You have one slide where she is with her daughter, who then sleeps with the protagonist (Agatha's daughter, not herself). Agatha cannot say “MINE” in any way. I haven’t seen any other situations with such a play on words, only dialogues with grandmother of Isabella. Which, again, technically cannot use the phrase “my daughter.”
Here is your Matthew. Right side.
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There was a line in which the MC said "She's Matthew's daughter" and which should have been changed to "She's my daughter" with the patch, however the patch had an error and was looking for "She is Matthew's daughter" instead. This was not during the conversation with Agatha, this was in chapter two, when MC and Isabella were on the island. It was MC talking to himself (or his thoughts, I can't remember which). He was saying she (Isabella) is his daughter.
Additionally, what name is considered exclusively male? The only common male name that is used for a female character (that I can think of) is Andy, and that is not an exclusively male name, even if it is far more likely to be a male name than a female name. Matthew is the name of the MC's deceased (male) friend. He had a daughter (Isabella) with Agatha's daughter. Therefore Isabella is Matthew's daughter. To my knowledge, we do not know the name of Isabella's mother, but it is certainly not Matthew.
In the original version (now the patched version), Matthew does not exist, and it was the MC who had the relationship with Agatha's daughter, and fathered Isabella.
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Okay, if possible, give me a screenshot, I left home nd I'm far from the game folder. Or I'll find it myself later.
The point is that Isabella is a “daughter” both to him and to our Matthew (who is obviously a woman). Okay, perhaps in the context of the phrase the author himself could have confused something. But the fact is that this Matthew is a girl, Agatha's daughter. This is a simple conclusion based on all the dialogues with Agatha.
Okay, again, please, when you have time, you or someone else from the topic, give a screenshot of the mention of Matthew as a freind. Outside of any dialogue with Isabella or Agatha. Because I haven’t seen anything like this at all, or I could have clicked it out (I admit). From what I have read, there is no other Matthew other than the brunette from the flashback.
Yes, a girl can have absolutely any name. Andy, and Matthew, and the helicopter.
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Why are you going on about this? The noise is over errors in the patch causing the name Matthew to appear when it shouldn't in about half a dozen lines of dialogue, not because it's a mans name.
Matthew is 100% a man in the dev's mind and in the game. If you use the fixed patch I posted above, Matthew does not exist anymore. The game does not specify a name for Isabella's mother, she is only ever referred to by lines like "her daughter", "my daughter", "my mother", etc.
This is obvious enough from the dialogue in game when using the dodgy patch, but the unpatched version is very specific:
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elif text == "({i}I was Matthew's best friend, who dated her daughter but... that was a long time ago.)":
return "({i}I dated her daughter but... that was a long time ago.)"
elif text == "You were his best friend, it is your duty to be there for her.":
return "It's your daughter, it's your duty as a man to take responsibility."
elif text == "({i}\"Hey, I'm your dad's best friend. Nice to meet you.\")":
return "({i}\"Hey, I'm your dad. Nice to meet you.\")"TonyMurray
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As quoted in the post above this, Matthew is the friend of the MC, how you are making it so Matthew is "obviously a woman" I have no idea.
The translation is not the best, and the patch is also not the best, that is the only reason for the confusion, because you have some bits that are not correctly matching and so are not changed with the patch (I gave you an example of this in my previous couple of posts).
This is from the translation file though, before the patch gets involved:
The game here is pre-patched, so the only reason Matthew comes up at all is because of the errors with the patch, but Matthew is definitely not Isabella's mother
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Because I rely on my eyes and the text I read. There may be errors in the code and a word may appear where it should not be, but this does not change the fact that the name is in the game and it was used in dialogue with another character in an appropriate manner.
Also, a couple of posts above, a person wrote that for some reason he considers Matthew to be a deceased friend (okay, by file) of the protagonist. Which directly contradicts the phrase I highlighted in the quote. You decide if he exists and is a friend of the MC, or if this character should not exist at all.
And as a result, the simplest conclusion is the girl’s name.
Also, the source of all these blots could be either an early build of the game, or the author’s desire (perhaps no longer relevant) to adjust the game to the “new rules”, or to add a playthrough option without incest, based on the same rules, for release on other platforms.
And - yes, that's why I didn't play with the "fixed version".
In any case, I think all this shaking about the name is nonsense, based on nothing, against the backdrop of the constant mention of Isabella as a daughter and the f&cking DNA test that appeared in the frame.
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No, that is not the simplest conclusion at all.
The game here is pre-patched. That patch takes all instances of Matthew and replaces them with the MC. So from "Matthew's daughter" it becomes "your daughter/my daughter" depending on who is saying it. The patch is poorly done though, so some instances were not changed as they should have been. You can see this in the segments of the patch that have been posted.
In the unpatched version, which I showed from the translation in my previous post, Matthew was the MC's friend. Matthew got Agatha's daughter pregnant. Matthew then died. I get that it's confusing because the version that we can play here mistakenly references Matthew due to the patch itself not being very good, but it is not hard to understand what is happening at all.
Unpatched version: Matthew is an old friend of MC. Matthew is now dead. Matthew is/was not a woman, and is definitely not the mother of Isabella. Matthew is Isabella's father.
Patched version: Matthew does not exist. MC is Isabella's father. End of story.
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I was lazy, but I still went to discord. Okay, let's discard the daughter's name. It turns out that the question was quite simple (and I even guessed right).
What’s funny is that even after receiving a response in discord, some geniuses continued to spam this take.
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Your "guess" is that Matthew is Isabella's mother, a woman. That line from Discord does not verify that at all. It says that there was a quick change made to make Isabella the "friend's daughter" instead of the MC's daughter, and the friend that was introduced to implement this change was Matthew.
The poorly implemented patch reverses this to continue the original plot, so if you play without the corrected file that was posted, you get part of the "official" dialogue (where the dead friend, Matthew, is the father) and part of the "original" dialogue (where the MC is the father).
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We all knew that, we've been trying to tell you that it's what led to "Matthew" erroneously showing up in dialogue, but you're insisting that it can only mean that Matthew is the name of a woman (who has not actually been named in the story). If there wasn't a change to fit in with payment platform rules, we would need a patch, and so we wouldn't have had these dialogue issues and I wouldn't have spent part of my afternoon trying (and failing) to get something really simple into your head.