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This was the fattest sarcasm. I understand why the incest tag is there, I saw it in the game.

All this noise arose only because the author chose a name for the girl, which in our timeline is considered exclusively male, and the subcortex of the brain of many players considered that we were talking about some random guy. Which is obviously not true.

There is literally no situation in the game where "she's my daughter" will be used. The girl who could talk like that died. You are talking to Agatha about HER daughter. You have one slide where she is with her daughter, who then sleeps with the protagonist (Agatha's daughter, not herself). Agatha cannot say “MINE” in any way. I haven’t seen any other situations with such a play on words, only dialogues with grandmother of Isabella. Which, again, technically cannot use the phrase “my daughter.”


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Here is your Matthew. Right side.
You really think, the girl on the rigth is "Matthew" ?
Bro the dev is spanish, he just messed up with the trad and the patch. Matthew is the friend of the Mc who died and he must "take care" of Matthew's daughter in the recent changes.
But at first the mc had a daughter with that girl on the right (whos name is unknow) but he changed the plots to avoid complication with the incest on others platforms.
 

O1duvai

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We all knew that, we've been trying to tell you that it's what led to "Matthew" erroneously showing up in dialogue, but you're insisting that it can only mean that Matthew is the name of a woman (who has not actually been named in the story). If there wasn't a change to fit in with payment platform rules, we would need a patch, and so we wouldn't have had these dialogue issues and I wouldn't have spent part of my afternoon trying (and failing) to get something really simple into your head.
Dude, that's not how it works. Check all posts since the update was published. You either push your reasoning trying to prove something, or give a screenshot from discord. You had 8 pages for it and the only one who brought it was me.

The phrase “we all knew” is not appropriate. Nobody is going to read your thoughts. And only a few will go check the game code, so over and over again the question will be raised until you bring a direct answer from the author.
You really think, the girl on the rigth is "Matthew" ?
Bro the dev is spanish, he just messed up with the trad and the patch. Matthew is the friend of the Mc who died and he must "take care" of Matthew's daughter in the recent changes.
But at first the mc had a daughter with that girl on the right (whos name is unknow) but he changed the plots to avoid complication with the incest on others platforms.
I don't "think", I know that any name can be given to anyone, regardless of gender. The issue has already been closed, by me, through a trip to Discord. You can find it a couple of posts earlier.
 

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Dude, that's not how it works. Check all posts since the update was published. You either push your reasoning trying to prove something, or give a screenshot from discord. You had 8 pages for it and the only one who brought it was me.

The phrase “we all knew” is not appropriate. Nobody is going to read your thoughts.

I don't "think", I know that any name can be given to anyone, regardless of gender. The issue has already been closed, by me, through a trip to Discord. You can find it a couple of posts earlier.
You don't have to read my mind, you just have to read my posts, or the posts of several other people who said changes were made to remove the incest. The only thing that's different is that you've been insisting that Matthew was the name of the girl's mother.

This is why there's a patch (although not all the changes were correctly referenced). Changes were made due to the crack down a few months back on "undesirable" content with the payment processors, so there are some extra hoops to jump through to get the game to the same point as you might have played it in earlier updates. Fortunately for us, the upload team sort most of it out though.
It's no different to any other game with that tag that is on the main payment platforms. It's tagged incest because there is easily unlockable (via patch or relationship picking) incest in it, and in most cases (including this one, as per the original release and title) it's also clearly the dev's intent.

The issue here is that the associated patch is not a good one, as it relies on translation files - so it's a case of see "this" line, replace it with "that" line, only some of the lines don't correctly match up, and so are not replaced. For example, "She's Matthew's daughter" should become "She's my daughter", but the patch was looking for "She is Matthew's daugther" so because it didn't find the line that was actually used in the game, it didn't replace it. As noted though, someone has put out a "fixed" copy of the patch to catch errors like that.
Two of us gave the screenshots that you asked for, showing how it was a mistake going from Spanish to the English translation to the patch. If it wasn't for that mistake, you would never have seen the name Matthew when playing the game. It's not our fault you chose to ignore that information because it didn't align with your assertion that Matthew is a woman in this game.

And you haven't confirmed anything about Matthew being a woman - please show me exactly where it says that.
 

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You don't have to read my mind, you just have to read my posts, or the posts of several other people who said changes were made to remove the incest. The only thing that's different is that you've been insisting that Matthew was the name of the girl's mother.



Two of us gave the screenshots that you asked for, showing how it was a mistake going from Spanish to the English translation to the patch. If it wasn't for that mistake, you would never have seen the name Matthew when playing the game. It's not our fault you chose to ignore that information because it didn't align with your assertion that Matthew is a woman in this game.

And you haven't confirmed anything about Matthew being a woman - please show me exactly where it says that.
Do you understand how PNG differs from “trust me bro”?
Once again: the issue is closed. The moment I got to discord myself.
 

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I was lazy, but I still went to discord. Okay, let's discard the daughter's name. It turns out that the question was quite simple (and I even guessed right).

What’s funny is that even after receiving a response in discord, some geniuses continued to spam this take.
He was banned from Patreon because of his first game "meeting her" and from itch.io (maybe?) for the title Lost daughter so he changed recently for Lost Freedom and the "daughter's friend" to be unbanned from these platform. This dev has always made f/d games
 

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Do you understand how PNG differs from “trust me bro”?
Once again: the issue is closed. The moment I got to discord myself.
I don't think you know what the issue is, because what you have been saying is nowhere near what you are using as the proof to back up what you are saying. Please, do me one thing, and that's all I'll ask of you, and all I'll say on the matter going forwards: As you are on Discord, ask the dev the following question, "verde, please help me end a discussion I have been having elsewhere: Who is Matthew? Is Matthew a man who is Isabella's father, or is Matthew a woman who is Isabella's mother?"

Screenshot the response you get and show us that. If you're right, and Matthew is a woman, I will go back and edit all of my posts here and say I'm an idiot and I bow down to your superior knowledge. If you're wrong, and Matthew is a man, I won't even ask anything of you.
 

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I don't think you know what the issue is, because what you have been saying is nowhere near what you are using as the proof to back up what you are saying. Please, do me one thing, and that's all I'll ask of you, and all I'll say on the matter going forwards: As you are on Discord, ask the dev the following question, "verde, please help me end a discussion I have been having elsewhere: Who is Matthew? Is Matthew a man who is Isabella's father, or is Matthew a woman who is Isabella's mother?"

Screenshot the response you get and show us that. If you're right, and Matthew is a woman, I will go back and edit all of my posts here and say I'm an idiot and I bow down to your superior knowledge. If you're wrong, and Matthew is a man, I won't even ask anything of you.
Lord, calm down. I already understood that for some reason you were unable to directly refer to the developer’s post and decided to prove something from the position of “trust me bro.”

Phase one: a name appears in the game that is not tied to anything. It is used in such a way that it can be either the name of a third person or the name of a girl.
Phase two: I draw a neutral conclusion based on the passage and form of use of the name.
Phase three: you come and start proving something with paragraphs of text (the contents of the files are shown not by you, but by another dude).
In the fields: This still doesn't directly answer any of the questions because you chose not to quote the author with the discord screenshot.
Phase four: I got tired of arguing with you and went to discord myself. And I found the answer there. All. All your texts make no sense (except for typing numbers in your profile) because they did not link to the author’s post.
In the margins: I don’t need to ask him anything. I already received an answer from him and brought it here with a quote-screenshot (which could have been done a long time ago, answering ALL possible questions from ALL users who interpreted the name in any other way).
Question: Is there anything else I can help you with? The issue is closed, but you won’t calm down.

(I already know the answer to what the problem is here. You just need to learn how to cut out screenshots with standard Windows scissors, and not try to look smarter than a locomotive and prove something on your own behalf. This is all. I repeat, the question is closed and the answer was given not by you, but by the author himself.)
 
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TonyMurray

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Lord, calm down. I already understood that for some reason you were unable to directly refer to the developer’s post and decided to prove something from the position of “trust me bro.”

Phase one: a name appears in the game that is not tied to anything. It is used in such a way that it can be either the name of a third person or the name of a girl.
Phase two: I draw a neutral conclusion based on the passage and form of use of the name.
Phase three: you come and start proving something with paragraphs of text (the contents of the files are shown not by you, but by another dude).
In the fields: This still doesn't directly answer any of the questions because you chose not to quote the author with the discord screenshot.
Phase four: I got tired of arguing with you and went to discord myself. And I found the answer there. All. All your texts make no sense (except for typing numbers in your profile) because they did not link to the author’s post.
In the margins: I don’t need to ask him anything. I already received an answer from him and brought it here with a quote-screenshot (which could have been done a long time ago, answering ALL possible questions from ALL users who interpreted the name in any other way).
Question: Is there anything else I can help you with? The issue is closed, but you won’t calm down.
Yes, there is something else you can help me with. You can help me understand how you have proven anything. I don't know how you think you have answered all possible questions when you haven't even answered your own question. I gave you contents of the files, as did another helpful user, and you are still insisting that Matthew is the name of the woman. Please, do it, ask on Discord and show everyone what a fool I am. I know you're dying to do that.
 
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O1duvai

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You can help me understand how you have proven anything.
Are you kidding me? What the f&ck are you talking about?
- I argued that the name could be feminine.
- I expressed it.
- You don’t agree with this and instead of GIVING A QUOTE FROM THE AUTHOR FROM DISCORD, you’ve already been talking bullshit for a page and a half.
The absolute minimum number of players will access the game files. To prove that I’m wrong (which I already admitted, you’re blind), it’s enough to give a quote from the discord. Stop the f&ck, this sounds a lot like ADHD.
 

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The problem is the "friend's daughter" was for the Patreon, etc version - the patch was supposed to get rid of that - but didn't everywhere.
 

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Are you kidding me? What the f&ck are you talking about?
- I argued that the name could be feminine.
- I expressed it.
- You don’t agree with this and instead of GIVING A QUOTE FROM THE AUTHOR FROM DISCORD, you’ve already been talking bullshit for a page and a half.
The absolute minimum number of players will access the game files. To prove that I’m wrong (which I already admitted, you’re blind), it’s enough to give a quote from the discord. Stop the f&ck, this sounds a lot like ADHD.
Well, shit, I was really hoping that you would get us an answer to the question. Apparently the only acceptable way to get answers to anything is to provide a screenshot of a comment from Discord that doesn't actually confirm what you're trying to confirm, but you do you.
 
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Are you kidding me? What the f&ck are you talking about?
- I argued that the name could be feminine.
- I expressed it.
Matthew is obviously a male name. From google " 1 out of every 251 baby boys and 1 out of every 197,721 baby girls born in 2021 are named Matthew. " It's not because some lost people in lost land named one girl Matthew at one time in the human history that made the name feminine.
 

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Well, shit, I was really hoping that you would get us an answer to the question. Apparently the only acceptable way to get answers to anything is to provide a screenshot of a comment from Discord that doesn't actually confirm what you're trying to confirm, but you do you.
F&ck, I didn't think the simplest things were so complicated.

Dude, first of all, you are not a developer. Any of your takes have less weight than his post in discord. Secondly, there can be any flaws in the game code, both random and mistakes with intentional changes made to the game. You proved to me here that the code is crooked, the patch is early, here is the file and the like. Aaand - I don't care. And neither you nor anyone else will be able to justify the presence of errors in the code in the same way as their original source. That's ALL about it.
After all, even before our conversation began, there was a response from the developer in the discord. You could make the SIMPLE movement and give its answer instead of a thousand of your attempts. The developer's answer suits me and, as I already said, his words carry more weight than "trust me bro".
I have never PROVED, in an AFFECTIVE form, that the name sucked forty times belongs to a specific character. I always made footnotes that, judging by the text and dialogue, it was MOST LIKELY her (and this is literally true if you DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHOR QUOTE IN YOUR HANDS). For the fortieth time: errors in files can appear there FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

I'm shocked that all this needs to be chewed over. In my opinion, some people really like to consider themselves the center of attention. Stop it. We are done with this topic.
Matthew is obviously a male name. From google " 1 out of every 251 baby boys and 1 out of every 197,721 baby girls born in 2021 are named Matthew. " It's not because some lost people in lost land named one girl Matthew at one time in the human history that made the name feminine.
I won't repeat anything. There was a screenshot earlier, find it. And ask Google if Andy is a male name.
 
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F&ck, I didn't think the simplest things were so complicated.

Dude, first of all, you are not a developer. Any of your takes have less news than his post in discord. Secondly, there can be any flaws in the game code, both random and mistakes with intentional changes made to the game. You proved to me here that the code is crooked, the patch is early, here is the file and the like. Aaand - I don't care. And neither you nor anyone else will be able to justify the presence of errors in the code in the same way as their original source. That's ALL about it.
After all, even before our conversation began, there was a response from the developer in the discord. You could make the SIMPLE movement and give its answer instead of a thousand of your attempts. The developer's answer suits me and, as I already said, his words carry more weight than "trust me bro".
I have never PROVED, in an AFFECTIVE form, that the name sucked forty times belongs to a specific character. I always made footnotes that, judging by the text and dialogue, it was MOST LIKELY her (and this is literally true if you DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHOR QUOTE IN YOUR HANDS). For the fortieth time: errors in files can appear there FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

I'm shocked that all this needs to be chewed over. In my opinion, some people really like to consider themselves the center of attention. Stop it. We are done with this topic.

I won't repeat anything. There was a screenshot earlier, find it. And ask Google if Andy is a male name.
I don't know why you write half of what you write, other than just trying to get further away from the stupid original comment that you're still trying to distance yourself from. This has nothing to do with whether I'm a developer or not (and, I'll note, you don't know whether or not I am one), it has nothing to do with the code. It's just about you insisting that the name Matthew is being used here for a woman, the lead female's mother. You keep insisting that it's most likely her, even though that is a ridiculous argument, as there's nothing whatsoever that would make that make sense. Your quoted post from Discord only confirms what everyone was telling you from the start, and it was never needed, because it was obvious to everyone but you that Matthew was not the name of a female character.
 
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You keep insisting that it's most likely her
Please check your head. And vision.
To prove that I’m wrong (which I already admitted, you’re blind), it’s enough to give a quote from the discord.
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I was lazy, but I still went to discord. Okay, let's discard the daughter's name.
this sounds a lot like ADHD.
You literally don’t read the posts, or you take two sentences out of them.

And yes, I’m sure you’re not a developer, and certainly not of this game. Otherwise, go get a developer's die.
The conversation is over. Give yourself the last word.
Your quoted post from Discord only confirms what everyone was telling you from the start, and it was never needed, because it was obvious to everyone but you that Matthew was not the name of a female character.
first of all, you are not a developer. Any of your takes have less weight than his post in discord.
In my opinion, some people really like to consider themselves the center of attention. Stop it. We are done with this topic.
 
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Please check your head. And vision.



You literally don’t read the posts, or you take two sentences out of them.

And yes, I’m sure you’re not a developer, and certainly not of this game. Otherwise, go get a developer's die.
The conversation is over. Give yourself the last word.
No, I read them - how else would I know that you never managed to show how the most likely answer, of all the possibilities, was that Matthew, the well-known male name, was in this game the name of a woman? All you did was wither under the confirmations to the contrary, and try to shut the conversation down. I was reading every word trying to understand how it could be the most likely answer, but I still didn't see anything, which is why I asked you to enlighten me.
 
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Dude, first of all, you are not a developer. Any of your takes have less weight than his post in discord. Secondly, there can be any flaws in the game code, both random and mistakes with intentional changes made to the game. You proved to me here that the code is crooked, the patch is early, here is the file and the like. Aaand - I don't care. And neither you nor anyone else will be able to justify the presence of errors in the code in the same way as their original source. That's ALL about it.
After all, even before our conversation began, there was a response from the developer in the discord. You could make the SIMPLE movement and give its answer instead of a thousand of your attempts. The developer's answer suits me and, as I already said, his words carry more weight than "trust me bro".
I have never PROVED, in an AFFECTIVE form, that the name sucked forty times belongs to a specific character. I always made footnotes that, judging by the text and dialogue, it was MOST LIKELY her (and this is literally true if you DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHOR QUOTE IN YOUR HANDS). For the fortieth time: errors in files can appear there FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

I'm shocked that all this needs to be chewed over. In my opinion, some people really like to consider themselves the center of attention. Stop it. We are done with this topic.

I won't repeat anything. There was a screenshot earlier, find it. And ask Google if Andy is a male name.
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Lord, calm down. I already understood that for some reason you were unable to directly refer to the developer’s post and decided to prove something from the position of “trust me bro.”
You must be fun at parties.
If you only care about the dev's word and nobody else carries any weight, then why bother engaging with people here, hang out on discord or DM dev directly. It's not up to others to go find screenshots of the devs words for you. I'd be surprised if many here were even on the devs discord.
It was blatantly obvious that Matthew was not a woman, even with the borked patch, screenshots from the dev were not required (hence why TonyMurray said "everybody already knew" earlier).
 

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If you only care about the dev's word and nobody else carries any weight, then why bother engaging with people here, hang out on discord or DM dev directly.
Google what forums are. This path could be much simpler. However, sometimes you can stumble upon the dean of the faculty “someone is wrong on the Internet,” who, instead of a simple quote, will give a lecture.
screenshots from the dev were not required (hence why TonyMurray said "everybody already knew" earlier).
You're contradicting at least three pages of whining about remote incest. This can be verified by simply turning the pages.
If you really want to, go to my DM and don’t shit in the general topic.
 
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