Mommysbuttslut

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The writer makes it impossible. There's no law or rule that says it needs to follow the established template. Be different from LIL/Sensei Overnight.
So many other games are generic to everything else but because the theme isn't as obvious as it is with LiL-likes it doesn't stand out as much.
LIY is the best LiL-like, it takes the format while offering a linear VN experience, has generally better writing than the rest and the girls are all well designed. I do think the season 1 ending was a little too on the nose but this is overall more enjoyable than LiL and a lot less convoluted.
If you don't like LiL-likes then just play something else. Not everything needs to be perfectly unique and original and if it did then I suspect a lot of your favourite games wouldn't exist either.

Also since you brought it up, fuck the pedophile sensei janitor game. Any dev who does that shit shouldn't be used as a standard no matter how relevant their game is to the discussion.
 
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The writer makes it impossible. There's no law or rule that says it needs to follow the established template. Be different from LIL
Isn't LiL from the ? It's just that it's the one who popularized it in this region of the web, so it's seen as the template.
 

OhGodNotAgain

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If you don't like LiL-likes then just play something else. Not everything needs to be perfectly unique and original and if it did then I suspect a lot of your favourite games wouldn't exist either.
This is why we get so many damn remakes and reboots because people will just throw their hands up and say "oh well"
usually, I would be all for devs following their vision but if they're copying something so closely, is it really theirs?
Also since you brought it up, fuck the pedophile sensei janitor game. Any dev who does that shit shouldn't be used as a standard no matter how relevant their game is to the discussion.
Eh, I couldn't think of any other examples here that used the template, so closely anyway.
 

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Can one of these please not follow in LIL footsteps? Is that too much to ask? Does it absolutely need to be stuffed to the gills with angst and misery? Can one of these please end in a harem without people dying, broken, empty, or insane?
I am very sure you would be a well adjusted person if you ended up finding out you where added into a harem of men for one woman 100% would just deal with that. /s
 

OhGodNotAgain

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I am very sure you would be a well adjusted person if you ended up finding out you where added into a harem of men for one woman 100% would just deal with that. /s
...Why is the real-life argument always brought up...only when it's convenient? We're not talking about me; we're talking about fictional characters.
 
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...Why is the real-life argument always brought up...only when it's convenient? We're not talking about me; we're talking about fictional characters.
Fictional characters still tend to have a hint of reality and what we consider common sense to them i am sorry buddy nice dodge tho
 

OhGodNotAgain

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Fictional characters still tend to have a hint of reality and what we consider common sense to them i am sorry buddy nice dodge tho
In a story with Godlike beings and reality altering, common sense went out the window.
 

ModernGamingIsTrash

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This is why we get so many damn remakes and reboots because people will just throw their hands up and say "oh well"
usually, I would be all for devs following their vision but if they're copying something so closely, is it really theirs?

Eh, I couldn't think of any other examples here that used the template, so closely anyway.
After playing Lessons In Love, Sensei Overnight, I ended up becoming a game dev not long after. I however, did not want to follow in their footsteps. I saw that coming with it's success. Besides it would have made me feel fake as an artist. Which is why my first game ended up being set in the 90s taking cue from American Pie 1 and the skateboarding scene at the time.

I don't think every koikatsu game needs to a LiL game. Otherwise, most will shrug off Koikatsu rendered games as another Lil clone.
 

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Idk if someone wrote this or not, but I want Girl #1 to become relevant to the plot and get a name.

Upd. Here's what I get for writing this before downloading 9.1. Girl #1 got a name. Now she has to become relevant to the plot.
 
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I was gonna write this like a month ago, but idk how I feel about this VN. Like a get it, it's a LIL-like and in Koikatsu, but I've seen others in this micro-genre of VN's that seem to be able to stand on their own feet without following the "source material" too closely. Dissonance is one example. A denpa Koikatsu VN influenced by LIL, that manages to have it's own themes, own lore, own gags, or at the very least mix them up enough so that each of those properties can be their own thing rather than ideas and such obviously from someone else's work. Lost In You commonly feels like an alternate universe LIL. There are jokes ripped straight from LIL, plot elements that are exactly the same, etc. And the writing is ok, but of course is reminiscent of LIL.

The linear mode seemed to be a nice touch until events/dialogue began to happen out of order (characters would speak in a way that made it seem like you've encountered/befriended them much longer ago, yet it'll only be your 2nd time ever seeing them, or reference things/people that they have not seen/met yet), and there's this meta-plot thing where (the main)character(s) (i believe others characters along with the MC may have exhibited this) will know the spoken words, feelings, happenings of others, or information that was shown/given in the previous or same scene that they should not know because they have not witnessed it. There's one such time that it happens that's moreso a joke,
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but the majority of them happen out of nowhere and frequently enough that it makes the already barely par writing seem moreso subpar.

Some of the events, characters, and writing do stand out well, and is nice to see. Other elements of this VN (the cake scene) are...yeah. But even with the occasional enjoyable parts sprinkled in here and there, the not so enjoyable parts are always sprinkled in right along with them and just as much, and I feel like that negates people's feelings of how this can be enjoyed as a well written, less convoluted, alterantive to LIL. LIL is purposely convoluted, while this one convolutes itself without reason. It makes a mess of itself by misplacing events and employing meta writing elements that should not be possible in the context, muddying the VN as a whole. These could be overlooked if it weren't prevalent throughout the entire story so far, and instead just in the earlier writing as the author ironed out the kinks.

I think this VN could really pick up if some of those points were changed/fixed, and if more original elements are implemented into it. Polishing it up, rewriting some things, and being more creative with the plot/writing could make this a really nice piece of work. As it stands, this VN really needs it.
 
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o7Meh

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Ive heard this "LiL" copying so many times. Ive tried to make sense of it but i still cant. I guess it has some beach events etc but if we go there then LiL is a copy from so many other sources. Its not like the school setting is a thing that was created in LiL
 

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Idk if someone wrote this or not, but I want Girl #1 to become relevant to the plot and get a name.

Upd. Here's what I get for writing this before downloading 9.1. Girl #1 got a name. Now she has to become relevant to the plot.
I 100% agree, but she wont sadly :(
 

Kuru

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Every comparison to LiL, Sensei Overnight, Dissonance, ect. ect. All pretty valid. It is a genre. LiL is usually the easiest to jump towards because it is by far the longest. Was definitely the one to get me into the general genre. I would call it just school setting psychological horror harem VN but kind of a mouthful. (Yes I know Pers0nas should be burning in hell but still made a noteworthy game.)

LiL is fantastic. Pretty much all the characters are great. Getting to be too long and being a sandbox gets tedious at that rate. Sensei Overnight flowed a bit better imo. (Again, fk Pers0nas) Dissonance I think had the highest ratio of characters I liked compared to disliked.

But this? This hits that complete story feeling for me. Was a bit more invested in characters I didn't particularly like as much. I don't particularly remember it being overly convoluted like LiL. Making the comparisons is valid imo. Doesn't do anything 'wrong' or 'bad' that requires the comparisons negatively. The characters are all unique enough they aren't just copy/pasted from other games. Are there similarities? Sure, that happens. Would never get new games if characters weren't similar or even specifically took inspiration from other games.

My bottom line, game is good. The other games are also good. Can't wait to go through next 20 updates.
 
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