VN Ren'Py Abandoned Love and Submission [v0.08] [veqvil]

[Andro1234]

Feel free not to follow or support him. Furher I am not defendfing him as such, just making my own choices based upon what was delivered in past and knowing Veq from past. Am I 100% happy and would like to see him more active and communicative on Patreon and here. Sure, but just trying to make a dev feel hunted down and pressured will only have negative consequences with a dev like Veq is my experience with him in past.

Now if you decide that is a reason to not support him when you are a patron, that is everyones right, but let his patrons decide that for themselves and not start a witchhunt here, where everyone shouts loudest what a douche he is, without any real knowledge and only suppositions.

I am not hating Veq or anything like that. I supported him for months but if he is unable to write a simple message to his patreons then your losing all my respect.

Its like with EA. If you keeping your mouth shut, they will continue with their shady business practices. in this case , we just have to let him know that he needs to communicate. thats it . he is a good artist but he need to step his communication game up.

 

[Andro1234]

@Andro1234 , Maya? Where did you come up with that? You sure you don't mean DAZ Studio?

Sorry my mistake. Some use DAZ others use Maya or Cinema4d .

 

[Deleted member 833007]

Does anyone know..when will be the next update? This game has so much potential.

 

[MykeRosy]

Sorry my mistake. Some use DAZ others use Maya or Cinema4d .

Are u supporting him on patreon? Yeah ur right January 30 is the last update of his and that feb 20 is not a proper update. I guess he should do every once a week of update.

 

[bigpenniser]

I mean why is almost everyone defending this guy? 3.500$ is really good money (depending where you are living) . if you cant communicate with your patreons and just let them know at least twice a month what the progress of the game is and so forth, then you just dont care . And dont get me started with “but making a game is so hard... it takes time” . Simple answer -> no. The maya models are not his, the scenery is not his , texture , shaders , clothing etc all not his. The only part he has to do is placing the models somewhere , render them , adding basic python code and then distribute the game with renpy on all platforms and publish it on patreon. wow . once you saw how simple it is to create/render a model through maya/cinema4d and writing the code in python for the game, you will start questioning a lot of developers about their release dates. there are a lot of good developers out there that put in the work and communicate with their patreons and they deserve all the praise and recognition.

Because he used to write here from time to time and if you said anything bad about the game or the absurd amount of time he started taking per update for pretty much no results people came at you like rabid dogs.

I sadly have to say that I often dont even remember this game these days. With how good it could have been and all the promise it showed its a shame, but its just another one to add to the pile I guess.

 

[damnthatwascrazy]

And the pile grows. Just look at Mythic Manor devs - from monthly updates when they had modest support to updates once in 3+ months once they've reached 7k+ in contributions. Sadly, it seems to be a standard path for most of adult game devs. Why bother with updates if cheques keep coming anyway. Just invest your time in a nice looking 'bait' and once you've reached a desired level of support - drop your activity to a minimum, the money won't stop coming in. Excuses? Rest assured people will invent all kinds of excuses themselves, you don't even need to bother yourself most of the times.

 

[Piyush3362]

He is becoming more and more like Aorrta each day

 

[Endrju]

im still not ready to gave up on him

 

[RainMan92]

There is a new post on his patreon, something about bad news.

 

[GhostPhil]

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Breaking the silence with bad news


Hey guys (tl,dr at the bottom),
some of you (especially the ones that are often active on discord) might have already noticed how my activity went down for quite some time now.
Obviously something is up and I don't feel like going into details here, but I am struggling to fix this depressive and broken person I have become since around the end of last year (I tried to hide it and make it go away by itself, but man... that didn't work).
I moved to a lot of new places and tried to get my stuff together (tried to socialize, find a job and even meditated etc.). And yet it just feels like new stuff is being thrown at me once I feel ready to move on.
I'm obviously not as tough as I thought I was IRL and I can't deny that this strongly affects my passion and therefore the creation of this game.
In case you imagine me being a zombie right now, that doesn't see the daylight 24/7:
No, that's not the case. I (try) to work out as usual, I leave the house every day and go around town applying and looking for a simple job just to have some sort of social environment.
I always tried to draw a very clear line between my passion and my private life and therefore didn't feel like sharing anything with you guys unless it was game progress related. Yet I feel so much better being able to let off some steam, while abusing this platform as some sort of blog.
I am sorry to cause all this trouble, including the silence, wait and all the whining in this post.
Please remember, I am not saying the things that hit me are super bad. Many people go through worse and would laugh at me. But I am feeling weak and need time.
Time to get back on track with... everything. I don't know how long it takes but I'm working hard on it (trust me I hate being a burden on my family and friends, one of the reasons I moved away).
Also I am not expecting anyone to keep supporting me, all I ask for is to wait for me and maybe check into my discord from time to time.
As for LaS:
There is just no way for me to stop this project/journey I started a long time ago, since it's one of the few things I attach the most awesome and fun memories with (yes, including all the sleepless nights, tears for being slow, extremely well done roasts and funny memes. Those moments prove to me I found something that matters to me).
It goes beyond any form of hobby and I am glad I found such thing. And unlike some people in my life this project doesn't desert, betray or leave me. I am just lost and try to find the right path again.
I want to be able to clearly focus on it again and therefore need to process/man-up/get strong/etc.. Whatever is required.
That's it for now and I consider being more active here and on discord, even though I have nothing in terms of game progress to talk about for now...
TL,DR: I am currently focusing on fixing my real life issues and can't work on LaS for now, sorry.

 

[Canto Forte]

What in the nine hells of the glowing eyed crone raven have all of you guys been feeding veq over on discord !?!
Cheer him up! Give him some commissions to get his fire started again. I saw some of you have DAZ skills -> send out a shout out in the form of fan art for this game cause if veq cannot crawl and haul his down and broken soul out of the holes he keeps digging for himself there is no game!
No point in holding the candle for this gem of a game if the creator is wasting away his life and everyone's patience!

 

[GhostPhil]

What in the nine hells of the glowing eyed crone raven have all of you guys been feeding veq over on discord !?!
Cheer him up! Give him some commissions to get his fire started again.
No point in holding the candle for this gem of a game if the creator is wasting away his life and everyone's patience!

What do you think we should do? I mean we can't be more or less active then in other Discords. If I know what to do I would obviously do it

 

[Ignatz]

Pie usually works. Everyone loves pie.

 

[KeyvinCarter]

 

[Eerie Entity]

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Breaking the silence with bad news


Hey guys (tl,dr at the bottom),
some of you (especially the ones that are often active on discord) might have already noticed how my activity went down for quite some time now.
Obviously something is up and I don't feel like going into details here, but I am struggling to fix this depressive and broken person I have become since around the end of last year (I tried to hide it and make it go away by itself, but man... that didn't work).
I moved to a lot of new places and tried to get my stuff together (tried to socialize, find a job and even meditated etc.). And yet it just feels like new stuff is being thrown at me once I feel ready to move on.
I'm obviously not as tough as I thought I was IRL and I can't deny that this strongly affects my passion and therefore the creation of this game.
In case you imagine me being a zombie right now, that doesn't see the daylight 24/7:
No, that's not the case. I (try) to work out as usual, I leave the house every day and go around town applying and looking for a simple job just to have some sort of social environment.
I always tried to draw a very clear line between my passion and my private life and therefore didn't feel like sharing anything with you guys unless it was game progress related. Yet I feel so much better being able to let off some steam, while abusing this platform as some sort of blog.
I am sorry to cause all this trouble, including the silence, wait and all the whining in this post.
Please remember, I am not saying the things that hit me are super bad. Many people go through worse and would laugh at me. But I am feeling weak and need time.
Time to get back on track with... everything. I don't know how long it takes but I'm working hard on it (trust me I hate being a burden on my family and friends, one of the reasons I moved away).
Also I am not expecting anyone to keep supporting me, all I ask for is to wait for me and maybe check into my discord from time to time.
As for LaS:
There is just no way for me to stop this project/journey I started a long time ago, since it's one of the few things I attach the most awesome and fun memories with (yes, including all the sleepless nights, tears for being slow, extremely well done roasts and funny memes. Those moments prove to me I found something that matters to me).
It goes beyond any form of hobby and I am glad I found such thing. And unlike some people in my life this project doesn't desert, betray or leave me. I am just lost and try to find the right path again.
I want to be able to clearly focus on it again and therefore need to process/man-up/get strong/etc.. Whatever is required.
That's it for now and I consider being more active here and on discord, even though I have nothing in terms of game progress to talk about for now...
TL,DR: I am currently focusing on fixing my real life issues and can't work on LaS for now, sorry.

Well it's better to deal with the real life stuff and do what's necessary to move forward, can't ignore that stuff or they just keep piling up and weighing on you. I much rather Veq (and any other dev with any possible issues in real life) to take the time to get things in order and better, and then return to develop the game he loves.
If you let things just pile up and not deal with them, you'll just end up burned out and nothing seem to work out, we see that far too often and that is a big big shame.

I hope Veq will start feeling better sooner rather than later, that's what matter the most, I'll still be here patiently waiting for the new update when he feels up to it

 

[DA22]

Sad news if not unexpected, I hope he will go out and search for and gets the help and support he needs to get himself back on track in time. First and foremost for himself.

Also no worries for the coming time I will still support you, just let us know if you have to come to the conclusion in time that you cannot return to the game.

 

[*Dreamer*]

well here is the best thing that can help is the *time* the person needs time to deal with all the problems in IRL and it is not necessary to press *veqvil* this is the best that we can do.

 

[Canto Forte]

I do not mean to pry or anything, but phil has been talking a lot about daz skills and his rendering prowess - challenge veq to a daz-athon - I dunno - something to engage him enough to realize that gaming communities and programmer communities are ALIVE AND THRIVE!

Get him to start a VLOG on Youtube! Get him to post some dev - vids at some time that his supporters can actually be there and keep it real.

This is NOT THE MATRIX - THIS IS REAL LIFE TOO!

THIS IS NOT THE OASIS -> THIS IS REAL LIFE TOO!

 

[GhostPhil]

Well it's better to deal with the real life stuff and do what's necessary to move forward, can't ignore that stuff or they just keep piling up and weighing on you. I much rather Veq (and any other dev with any possible issues in real life) to take the time to get things in order and better, and then return to develop the game he loves.
If you let things just pile up and not deal with them, you'll just end up burned out and nothing seem to work out, we see that far too often and that is a big big shame.

I hope Veq will start feeling better sooner rather than later, that's what matter the most, I'll still be here patiently waiting for the new update when he feels up to it

Wise word my friend

 

[MykeRosy]

So this should be on hold. I cant blame him that his life. He needs a fresh start.