VN Ren'Py Abandoned Love and Submission [v0.08] [veqvil]

[veqvil]

First of all, I want to thank everyone for all the feedback, geez this is so amazing, I finally have opinions to work with .

I am also shocked that I actually have patrons on my page, so writing news finally makes sense.

Din't hear anything :test:

Render quality: Yes there are many pictures which need way more samples, this is something I am working on right now (I actually started to render all car scenes before going to bed). (That KAPPA made me laugh)

The girl amy or w/e looks older than the blond mom on the frist choice point (compliment , happy to see family)
And whats with that meth smile :OhMyGoodness:

Funny, I thought the same. Before playing the demo I would have said the brunette is the mother. I guess it is the overdone lips, the perennially half closed eyes and the deep nasolabial fold. Girl should eat more and get some more sleep ;-) (and maybe lay off the coke)

Amy: So this is something I kind of expected, working with those models all the time, I get used to them and it's hard to get an entirely objective point of view, while I still feel that she doesn't always look older than her mom. Looking at the first scenes it seems to me that the lighting makes her look older (while too much shadow-fill also kills the nighttime-feel). I will keep an eye on it and when I have time I will definitely play around with the scenes a little.

Regarding the meth smile: I created a set of expressions which cause her mouth to go all crazy, before releasing 0.02 I had already swapped out many renders where the mouth was kind of strange, and there are still some fragments left.

The main issue here seems to be the entrance scene, which is already on my "Needs work" list. Reworking the whole character is something I would only consider if there's actually a big majority.

Again I want to thank everyone for their feedback, this really pushes my motivation and (to me) is a key ingredient for creating better games.
Quality updates (reworks, more rendering, etc) and Content updates both need time, but I try to find a good balance between those two. But at this early stage, my main focus is to add more content so there's more to do and have fun with (it's an adult game after all).

 

[wep]

@veqvil
It is true that sometimes Amy's expression are really off. Moreover if you will be able to decrease the noise of the pictures, this will be great.

However I can understand that you are working alone and probably you don't have a crazy expensive render workstation.
So IMHO the graph is quite fine(ish) and you should prioritize story and gameplay (decision and effect of your choices) if you have to choice between spend more time rendering or story/gameplay.

Obviously in the ideal word both will be better LOL

 

[EpicLust]

Render quality: Yes there are many pictures which need way more samples, this is something I am working on right now (I actually started to render all car scenes before going to bed). (That KAPPA made me laugh)

Not necessarily "more samples". Sometimes, this doesn't improve the graininess (don't ask me why). But rendering at twice the final size does. You can even stop the render at like 60%, which takes less time than a smaller render at 100% and get a better picture at the end once you've reduced it to the final size in photoshop...

 

[Dictateur]

Good luck, looking forward to it, after the disapointment that was Incest Story 2, kek.

 

[Bagger288]

Seems like an interesting game. Just a couple of typos/errors, but nothing confusing, and the story isn't too difficult to follow either (though these kinds of games tend to have trouble with that). The sex scene in particular feels out of place, because it introduces us to 2 irrelevant characters (and we're already finding out about 9 others).

A lot of branching going on. Hopefully it won't become overwhelming - I don't want to have to keep track of more than maybe 3 savegames at a time. That said, any number of branches are great as long the writer can keep up with them.

I'm not a huge fan of the renders. The quality is low, but that's fine since it looks like there will be a large number of them. Maybe just a little less/smarter dithering/lighting would help. But the sister's face is too big (as is her butt), the mom's boobs are too big, and the two women do not look related at all. I grew more used to them after a while, but first impressions were negative.

 

[Bambino]

It´s right, mom looks younger that sis. Maybe a more mature body (not only big tits and hips like a siliconed pornstar) for mom would help.

 

[veqvil]

I Edited a little mom & sister's picture.

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Geez, that post work looks good especially on Carol's image!

Not necessarily "more samples". Sometimes, this doesn't improve the graininess (don't ask me why). But rendering at twice the final size does. You can even stop the render at like 60%, which takes less time than a smaller render at 100% and get a better picture at the end once you've reduced it to the final size in photoshop...

Thank you for advice timdonehy200, actually, I am using this resize "trick" on all my renders its just I stop them at 150 iterations which isn't even 5% convergence so those renders just need way more time. My workstation is suited for gaming but rendering is semi-ideal.

Seems like an interesting game. Just a couple of typos/errors, but nothing confusing, and the story isn't too difficult to follow either (though these kinds of games tend to have trouble with that). The sex scene in particular feels out of place, because it introduces us to 2 irrelevant characters (and we're already finding out about 9 others).

A lot of branching going on. Hopefully it won't become overwhelming - I don't want to have to keep track of more than maybe 3 savegames at a time. That said, any number of branches are great as long the writer can keep up with them.

I'm not a huge fan of the renders. The quality is low, but that's fine since it looks like there will be a large number of them. Maybe just a little less/smarter dithering/lighting would help. But the sister's face is too big (as is her butt), the mom's boobs are too big, and the two women do not look related at all. I grew more used to them after a while, but first impressions were negative.

That's quite some good feedback, thanks mate!
Regarding the characters, I can't say that there are going to be big changes soon (as I mentioned I am focusing on content, at this early stage). But I actually wrote down your critique (and many others) and partly agree with them but there are way more characters planned with different body types, I hope that will work as a compromise.
Still, posts like this help me out a lot so keep em coming!

To all other interested comments so far:
Critique is good for the work, compliments are good for the soul
thank you!

 

[fyahrebel]

really like the game so far just the grainy images but after a few i stopped noticing it cant wait for more

 

[DarkMask]

Nice setup so far @veqvil , I take it Becky's brother is around the same age as the MC? I would love to see him going for the MC Mom instead of the sister.

 

[krillz]

Nice one, this looks good and promising.

 

[Volta]

Will look into this one, not really a hardcore S&M guy but the quality looks pretty high so i'll get back to you after i've run through it.

 

[gestved]

amy can look good if you fix that mouth, right now she looks really weird

there are shots where she looks normal, the problem is when she stretches her lips

 

[woltka35]

I will try it later. I love family games with Ren'py.
Edit:I couldn't wait and tried it. The game was awesome but too short. Maybe you can add some sex content for next versions...

 

[RWaites]

Impressed

 

[Obrecht13]

It's a fun game so far! I like that is looks like there will be some competition with Mom's boyfriend and Becky's bro. Looking forward to version .3!

 

[IMGSU]

Seems interesting! keep up.

 

[veqvil]

it's a cheap shot so far and i wonder how 0.1 looked like when 0.2 is empty as f*ck. how can someone hope for supporters when he did not work his ass off for a good first impression. see you in 1 year again.

Ouch... well I'm glad that you are willing to give me another shot in a year, you won't be disappointed!

I will try it later. I love family games with Ren'py.
Edit:I couldn't wait and tried it. The game was awesome but too short. Maybe you can add some sex content for next versions...

Thank you for trying it out!
I can't promise too much whats going to happen in 0.03 but I am aware of the lack of NSFW stuff in the game so far. What I try to avoid though, is to add sex scenes that don't make sense. But on the other hand, making an update for an adult game without adding some fun scenes wouldn't make sense to me either .

 

[RWaites]

Ouch... well I'm glad that you are willing to give me another shot in a year, you won't be disappointed!



Thank you for trying it out!
I can't promise too much whats going to happen in 0.03 but I am aware of the lack of NSFW stuff in the game so far. What I try to avoid though, is to add sex scenes that don't make sense. But on the other hand, making an update for an adult game without adding some fun scenes wouldn't make sense to me either .

Some people expect a new development to go straight to the sex, they don't want the build up but personally I prefer to go with the story when it's got the potential of your game.

 

[MrXV]

Really dont mind a game with some buildup, or things to do to get to a point of sex. If you want a fap and click you might aswell play meet n fuck games on newgrounds. I commend devs who chooses to focus on the story and let it develop along the vision and story rather than jump head first into sex scene after sex scene after blowjob. Gives the game more depth and interesting things to do. I also dont mind the teasing part of these games.

 

[Goronthil]

This game has potential !!