VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[DeviantFun]

Should not be, but Mia gets forgiven and even rewarded for bad behaviour. She is now included in the Lacey plan for trying to get her to relapse.

And Lacey plans play fast and loose.

What I mean is, that another character proposes to do it: Veronica, but the game lets the door open for either MMF or MFF with strapon.

Mia should not be in the game if you ask me, but I was referring to something else, way more interesting! I would go MFF with Veronica for sure on my main playthrough.

Mia wants to get impaled on a dildo while giving blowjobs

Anna wants to be kidnapped by Lacey and then used by MC for days

I don't know if these scenarios will come to life as described, we will see.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

Im seeing the first sharing as something like the Damian / jealosy date thing, something he is manipulated to accept to demostrate his love, something forced on him even if he dosent want to do it. The rest of the ocassions could be optional, but the first one... And for being Mia, well it rewards Mia, and triggers the make Mia happy and proud for Lacey.

The Wishlist of the King weekend could be for later situations.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

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[AL.d]

Im seeing the first sharing as something like the Damian / jealosy date thing, something he is manipulated to accept to demostrate his love, something forced on him even if he dosent want to do it.

Same. It's obvious the story heavily pushes for that and MC has the same wishy washy attitude he had back then, avoiding to definitively say no. Almost certain it will be forced with no choice to avoid it.

 

[DeviantFun]

Timeline:
- MC and Lacey meet at 6 years old.
- 13 years period, MC takes care of Lacey, the infamous 243 rules are born.
- Prom, MC tries to kiss Lacey, she can't and cries, they leave.
- Lacey lies to MC about going to college together and leaves.
- Freshman year Lacey feels bad and has "MC withdrawals" turns into alcohol first at night to sleep, then in the morning too.
- It is unclear when Lacey starts using K during Freshman year but she does for sure during sophomore during this time up until junior year she attempts suicide at least 7 times.
- Beginning of Sophomore year, MC meets Anna.
- Beginning of Junior year Lacey gets discovered by Mia, MC starts falling into deep depression, Anna leaves him.
- Mia uses corruption, it is super effective. (actually at the beginning it takes weeks at a time for Mia to convince Lacey)
- Start of "first period", no parties, Mia just pimp Lacey to random people.
- Lacey first handjob with Dave.
- Lacey first BJ with Mac.
- Lacey has sex with Stephen with a "ph".
- Lacey keeps going with all the three above for a while, at least two of them will be around every weekend.
- Lacey does stuff with Lorenzo.
- "second period" is just more stuff around 20 guys
- Here we have an inconcistency between Mia and Lacey on when the parties started, for Mia she already started, Lacey says that she started to party later, this is of little consequence
- Third phase, parties parties parties, 50 handjobs, airtight queen etc.
- Lacey tries to get cleaned up, still goes at parties, MC prepares his suicide, cuts classes, etc.
- Mia thinks that an addict getting clean is BS and pimps Lacey to Isaac which at this point is a Senior, he received an offer to play, considering the money he is probably a first pick at the draft, at least second, he wants to party one night and needs a prostitute, Mia delivers.
- Lacey stays with Isaac 3 weeks, relapses on alcohol and K to dangerous levels, Mia thinks she is gonna die but does nothing, MC sends desperate messages to Lacey, he is about to kill himself, Lacey doesn't give a fuck and doesn't even check her phone.
- At the end of the third week, Anna manages to contact Lacey, Lacey checks her phone, they stop MC from doing the unthinkable, Lacey promises to come back.
- Senior year, Anna graduates, MC is held back 6 months, we assume Lacey graduates too, MC stays in contact with Anna, Lacey ghosts him again, at this time she is still trying to get clean but relapses quite a few times.
- Anna finds job, Lacey gets hired thanks to Anna.
- 6 months after, MC comes back from college and gets a job and an apartment.
- After one week Lacey shows up at MC doorstep.

Maviarab

 

[Diosvincenccio]

Same. It's obvious the story heavily pushes for that and MC has the same wishy washy attitude he had back then, avoiding to definitively say no. Almost certain it will be forced with no choice to avoid it.

And he has beggining to rationalizide the idea as something Lacey gave him power to control. That as long as he loves Lacey more than the others its okey, and that what Lacey give him is power over Lacey Jealousy, a sort of "I trust you love me more than the others girls." I could see it soon reversing the roles and using that logic and guilt to create netorase escenarios, (I trusted you, you can trust me its only physical pleasure) witch would prepare the MC to allow any cheating/netorase and as excuse for forgive all the sex in college. The abandonment would not be forgiven but the sluting would be excussed as just sex no emmotions is okey.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

- Lacey does stuff with Lorenzo.
- "second period" is just more stuff around 20 guys
- Here we have an inconcistency between Mia and Lacey on when the parties started, for Mia she already started, Lacey says that she started to party later, this is of little consequence
- Third phase, parties parties parties, 50 handjobs, airtight queen etc.
- Lacey tries to get cleaned up, still goes at parties, MC prepares his suicide, cuts classes, etc.
- Mia thinks that an addict getting clean is BS and pimps Lacey to Isaac

My theory of when Lacey could become pregnant would be around there, depending of how fast passed from Lorenzo to Phase 2 to Third Phase, Lorenzo could be discarded as the father in favor of just some random dude never mentioned or even known to her. Just any partygoer.

 

[rhune]

I think that the scene with Damien is not a mistake - it gently shows us what we will inevitably face next

And yes it classic NTR without doubt so inital premise just a bait.

From that perspective, you're absolutely right.
However, if we quote the author — 'A story of true love, painful jealousy and the difficult journey learning how to heal and forgive.' — then it’s no longer a difficult journey, it becomes an impossible one.
Healing and especially forgiveness feel out of reach after something like the Damien scene and everything that followed , and that’s where I personally see it as a mistake, if the game truly aims to stay faithful to that premise. If this is healing, then I’d hate to see what abuse looks like.

 

[Maviarab]

Timeline:
- MC and Lacey meet at 6 years old.
- 13 years period, MC takes care of Lacey, the infamous 243 rules are born.
- Prom, MC tries to kiss Lacey, she can't and cries, they leave.
- Lacey lies to MC about going to college together and leaves.
- Freshman year Lacey feels bad and has "MC withdrawals" turns into alcohol first at night to sleep, then in the morning too.
- It is unclear when Lacey starts using K during Freshman year but she does for sure during sophomore during this time up until junior year she attempts suicide at least 7 times.
- Beginning of Sophomore year, MC meets Anna.
- Beginning of Junior year Lacey gets discovered by Mia, MC starts falling into deep depression, Anna leaves him.
- Mia uses corruption, it is super effective. (actually at the beginning it takes weeks at a time for Mia to convince Lacey)
- Start of "first period", no parties, Mia just pimp Lacey to random people.
- Lacey first handjob with Dave.
- Lacey first BJ with Mac.
- Lacey has sex with Stephen with a "ph".
- Lacey keeps going with all the three above for a while, at least two of them will be around every weekend.
- Lacey does stuff with Lorenzo.
- "second period" is just more stuff around 20 guys
- Here we have an inconcistency between Mia and Lacey on when the parties started, for Mia she already started, Lacey says that she started to party later, this is of little consequence
- Third phase, parties parties parties, 50 handjobs, airtight queen etc.
- Lacey tries to get cleaned up, still goes at parties, MC prepares his suicide, cuts classes, etc.
- Mia thinks that an addict getting clean is BS and pimps Lacey to Isaac which at this point is a Senior, he received an offer to play, considering the money he is probably a first pick at the draft, at least second, he wants to party one night and needs a prostitute, Mia delivers.
- Lacey stays with Isaac 3 weeks, relapses on alcohol and K to dangerous levels, Mia thinks she is gonna die but does nothing, MC sends desperate messages to Lacey, he is about to kill himself, Lacey doesn't give a fuck and doesn't even check her phone.
- At the end of the third week, Anna manages to contact Lacey, Lacey checks her phone, they stop MC from doing the unthinkable, Lacey promises to come back.
- Senior year, Anna graduates, MC is held back 6 months, we assume Lacey graduates too, MC stays in contact with Anna, Lacey ghosts him again, at this time she is still trying to get clean but relapses quite a few times.
- Anna finds job, Lacey gets hired thanks to Anna.
- 6 months after, MC comes back from college and gets a job and an apartment.
- After one week Lacey shows up at MC doorstep.

Maviarab

Props but not exactly what I meant. I'll get one done in the next few days when I have time to to sit and replay it.

 

[DeviantFun]

Props but not exactly what I meant. I'll get one done in the next few days when I have time to to sit and replay it.

What did I miss? Maybe I can add to it.

 

[Maviarab]

What did I miss? Maybe I can add to it.

I meant in terms of how much time has passed. Actual time, a week, month...whatever. How much time has passed since Damiangate to King Weekend for example? A couple of weeks...months?

That way we can actually find inconsistancies in people's dialogue/version of events and we know how much time has actually passed from event to event (where it can be worked out as there are a lot of time-jumps).

 

[AL.d]

And he has beggining to rationalizide the idea as something Lacey gave him power to control. That as long as he loves Lacey more than the others its okey, and that what Lacey give him is power over Lacey Jealousy, a sort of "I trust you love me more than the others girls." I could see it soon reversing the roles and using that logic and guilt to create netorase escenarios, (I trusted you, you can trust me its only physical pleasure) witch would prepare the MC to allow any cheating/netorase and as excuse for forgive all the sex in college. The abandonment would not be forgiven but the sluting would be excussed as just sex no emmotions is okey.

He even thinks of that and it's why he doesn't want to do it. He just can't say no. Even if it's the only rational thought he has had all game. I think he even says at some point that she wants to make him like her, which is spot on.

And it makes sense, since Lacey spent almost all of act 1 doing textbook cuck training. Not sure if it was malicious or because that's how her fucked up mind perceives sex, but that's what she was doing. The notion of ENM in a couple so sick and broken, is insane. Guaranteed disaster.

And if the game doesn't follow on that and goes for cozy harem shit, it fucks any semblance of realism it tried to have before.

 

[Saphfire]

Oh, now some think this will turn into ntr? Really? Lacey does NOT want to be shared. That is crystal clear.
I don´t have a crystal ball either but i can guess that Lacey is becoming a cuckqueen in the end.
That would be my guess, but alas everything is speculation.

 

[Maviarab]

Oh, now some think this will turn into ntr? Really? Lacey does NOT want to be shared. That is crystal clear.
I don´t have a crystal ball either but i can guess that Lacey is becoming a cuckqueen in the end.
That would be my guess, but alas everything is speculation.

Unfortunately dude...Lacey says a lot of things....and promptly puts them into the paper shredder....

We know it is not a harem game, dev states clearly in planned tags, no harem.

If it turens into a CQ story and MC fucking all their friends, I for one won't complain...if we ever get there past all the nonsense artificial and dumb drama intended to ever stop them actually working on things.

 

[Elduriel]

if we ever get there past all the nonsense artificial and dumb drama intended to ever stop them actually working on things.

unless it was all a dream

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Oh, now some think this will turn into ntr? Really? Lacey does NOT want to be shared. That is crystal clear.
I don´t have a crystal ball either but i can guess that Lacey is becoming a cuckqueen in the end.
That would be my guess, but alas everything is speculation.

Well I guess cuckquean would be one thing she hasn't done

She may be able to finally give the MC a first , maybe that's how she'll sell it to him

 

[DeviantFun]

Well I guess cuckquean would be one thing she hasn't done

She may be able to finally give the MC a first , maybe that's how she'll sell it to him

She never kissed, before MC.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

She never kissed, before MC.

While we don’t have evidence of the contrary, I am not sure i believe her on that either

 

[DeviantFun]

I meant in terms of how much time has passed. Actual time, a week, month...whatever. How much time has passed since Damiangate to King Weekend for example? A couple of weeks...months?

That way we can actually find inconsistancies in people's dialogue/version of events and we know how much time has actually passed from event to event (where it can be worked out as there are a lot of time-jumps).

I am sorry to say, while this is possible the information might be very incomplete.

There are already several inconsistencies between Mia snd Lacey recounts.

Due to Lacey wotholdibg and Mia being a dumbass.

I can try but there are huge holes in the recounts, the second period for example is hard to compile.

People talk about weeks, and other periods of time without framing them.

What we do know for sure is that MC was finalizing his suicide during the last 2 weeks of fun with Isaac.

While we don’t have evidence of the contrary, I am not sure i believe her on that either

You know, I find it hard to believe too, and it would be my preference as well.
It will underline how spent Lacey is.

But these are the info we have from the game.

There is upside here, if really MC was her first kiss, only for him, then the Damian and Morty scenes have even more impact.
Another win!

 

[Sayora]

Lacey will make MC sex fantasies come to life, my guess is that you need to make a specific choice to start up the first 3p.
I don't know when and the character involved should not be Mia.

Obviously if my guess from the dialogue and game files is correct.

Lacey will make HER sex fantasies come to life mc is just followed

From that perspective, you're absolutely right.
However, if we quote the author — 'A story of true love, painful jealousy and the difficult journey learning how to heal and forgive.' — then it’s no longer a difficult journey, it becomes an impossible one.
Healing and especially forgiveness feel out of reach after something like the Damien scene and everything that followed , and that’s where I personally see it as a mistake, if the game truly aims to stay faithful to that premise. If this is healing, then I’d hate to see what abuse looks like.

I'm somewhere in the second act now... and I don't see any options at all for this story to end well. At this stage, I absolutely cannot sympathize with FMС, or rather, quite the opposite. And I sincerely hope that MС will take her balls in her fist and start a new life with another girl.

FMС is sick and everything she touches also gets sick

This is not a story about heal and forgiveness, but about an attempt to save a person who is already
dead inside

If she really loved MС, she would have taken lethal dose and stopped the suffering of her beloved and herself, and not told at the first opportunity how she suffered and how many times she was close to suicide.