VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[Diosvincenccio]

Oh, now some think this will turn into ntr? Really? Lacey does NOT want to be shared. That is crystal clear.
I don´t have a crystal ball either but i can guess that Lacey is becoming a cuckqueen in the end.

A cuckqueen ending would be awesome, but the road so far goes against that. Wish it would end being true. Im preparing a little story as a literary experiment for myself on that topic, so far i only have the characters and some flowchart of events, but a new cuckqueen its always welcomed.

About not wanting to be shared. Well, first she says lots of things and does the opposite, and more on my point, she is a gratiffication addict. Not a sex addict, a "everything that makes her feel good in that instant" addict, sex included. All the netorase preparation would be just to extend the jealosy dates and make them more acceptable to MC. More pleasure, more emotions, while knowing she would be safe of consecuences if she screws up and goes too sexual/cant stop herself even if MC ask her to stop.

 

[AL.d]

While we don’t have evidence of the contrary, I am not sure i believe her on that either

She was so horned up with the bald dude, that she couldn't be arsed to notice MC had started speaking to her in anger and not encouragement. And practically attacked the dude. While fully sober.

Now imagine her with the guys she actually had some feelings for in college, while all drugged up. Of course you shouldn't believe it.

 

[midnightwolfvz]

Just came here to say jesus fucking christ man, Never have i felt my heart ache so much at an ntr scene before, THAT scene where all you can do is watch as she breaks every rule, like bro, my chest felt fucking painful watching it all unfold, the writing can be 10/10 when it wants to.

Also just have to get this off my chest.

How the fuck has the mc not just said fuck it and left her or offed himself yet? i get they are both mentally fucked up, i truly do, but every simp has a limit, and i dont think its too hard to say she has definitely gone way past that line, like okay, even if she would kill herself the moment the mc leaves her, so what, bitch you have done far worse to the mc than anything that happened to you, like aww boohoo you did ket and was a drunk whore in college, okay, you made your childhood sweetheart be on the edge of killing himself TWICE! He would have already been dead the first time of not for that Anna stopping him as he was inches away from jumping. You fucked up his mental state and basically dragged him down to your pathetic level, you also lied through your teeth about your college life, pretending you saved yourself for him and all that shit, lying whore. you then get back into his life just to ruin him again, fuck you bitch. (props to the writer, clearly did a good job in getting everyone to hate the whore ) so if she did kill herself i would say good riddance, i genuinely feel no remorse towards the wife, i know in the description it says something about a plan for forgiveness but honestly... if anyone would truly forgive her after all of that, seek help. please. Just either let us absolutely ruin her life somehow, weather thats just outright dumping her, or maybe letting us demand from now on the mc gets to fuck all her friends when he wants and she has to stay loyal, one fuck up and its over she has to pack up and leave, doesnt even have to be sex could be the little things like touching/groping, one fuck up and its over. cause Honestly after what i just went through i need to see her either just off herself or go through the pain the mc just had to go through. I will stop now cause i reckon i could sit here and never stop typing im that emotional rn.

 

[Liqoxlongin]

I wish it ended with happy cozy beautiful harem... Despite everything bad, stupid decisions, traumas, abuse and all, I so much want all of them to be happy and together... I know dev said it's not going to happen but I still wish for it...

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Just came here to say jesus fucking christ man, Never have i felt my heart ache so much at an ntr scene before, THAT scene where all you can do is watch as she breaks every rule, like bro, my chest felt fucking painful watching it all unfold, the writing can be 10/10 when it wants to.

Also just have to get this off my chest.

How the fuck has the mc not just said fuck it and left her or offed himself yet? i get they are both mentally fucked up, i truly do, but every simp has a limit, and i dont think its too hard to say she has definitely gone way past that line, like okay, even if she would kill herself the moment the mc leaves her, so what, bitch you have done far worse to the mc than anything that happened to you, like aww boohoo you did ket and was a drunk whore in college, okay, you made your childhood sweetheart be on the edge of killing himself TWICE! He would have already been dead the first time of not for that Anna stopping him as he was inches away from jumping. You fucked up his mental state and basically dragged him down to your pathetic level, you also lied through your teeth about your college life, pretending you saved yourself for him and all that shit, lying whore. you then get back into his life just to ruin him again, fuck you bitch. (props to the writer, clearly did a good job in getting everyone to hate the whore ) so if she did kill herself i would say good riddance, i genuinely feel no remorse towards the wife, i know in the description it says something about a plan for forgiveness but honestly... if anyone would truly forgive her after all of that, seek help. please. Just either let us absolutely ruin her life somehow, weather thats just outright dumping her, or maybe letting us demand from now on the mc gets to fuck all her friends when he wants and she has to stay loyal, one fuck up and its over she has to pack up and leave, doesnt even have to be sex could be the little things like touching/groping, one fuck up and its over. cause Honestly after what i just went through i need to see her either just off herself or go through the pain the mc just had to go through. I will stop now cause i reckon i could sit here and never stop typing im that emotional rn.

Welcome to the club

 

[Maviarab]

unless it was all a dream

He gonna wake up in the shower Ewing style?

There are already several inconsistencies between Mia snd Lacey recounts.

Exactly...

 

[duckydoodoo]

i just don't get why everyone is so obsest with lacey there is several hotter girls in the game already but every guy seems to want her

i think of lacey like school slut when half the guys in school are trying to lose their virginity. lacey puts out, and she does whatever they want, however they want, whenever they want. no one but the MC wants to marry lacey(isaac just sees a twisted fuck/soul mate not actual wife material). they all just want to do horrible depraved things to her. there is something absolutely freeing about being with someone where you dont have to hide a single part of your darkness and just let go.

notice no one is talking about getting lacey home having a romantic dinner and a chat about their feelings. they are all just trying to fuck her. its probably the most realistic part of this story telling regarding lacey. most guys are just pubescent boys drooling over the same skank in hopes of satiating their desires cause they think its the easiest route til it becomes an obsession

 

[DeviantFun]

Exactly...

Maybe you'll manage better, I went and tried through memory and game files looking for the specific keywords I remembered touched on the timeline.

For example Lorenzo for Lacey is second period, for Mia seems to be first.
The parties if you llisten to Mia start quite early, for Lacey only after the second period.

You can't know which is which.
Honestly? And I am going to get people riled up with this, I'd rather trust Lacey than Mia.
Mia has been unreliable every single time, by describing Lorenzo for example or by not understanding Lacey motives.

I can assure you tho, that Isaac did not fuck Lacey in MC hometown, there is simply no indication of it, quite the opposite.

Another subtle tidbit is how Lacey doesn't protest when Isaac is defined as her ex, one might think that she just isn't interested in doing that or whatever, but then she protests when Lorenzo is called the same.

This is very interesting to me, considering all the previous discussions, either MC got to her (he is the one suggesting this fact), or she matured and realized.

i think of lacey like school slut when half the guys in school are trying to lose their virginity. lacey puts out, and she does whatever they want, however they want, whenever they want. no one but the MC wants to marry lacey(isaac just sees a twisted fuck/soul mate not actual wife material). they all just want to do horrible depraved things to her. there is something absolutely freeing about being with someone where you dont have to hide a single part of your darkness and just let go.

notice no one is talking about getting lacey home having a romantic dinner and a chat about their feelings. they are all just trying to fuck her. its probably the most realistic part of this story telling regarding lacey. most guys are just pubescent boys drooling over the same skank in hopes of satiating their desires cause they think its the easiest route til it becomes an obsession

I agree with you on this, the reductio to caveman is strong in this game.

But if you notice, there is NO woman of the sort in the story (unless you count Mia there but her motivations aren't purely sexual).

It is just the author bias.

 

[Maviarab]

Honestly? And I am going to get people riled up with this, I'd rather trust Lacey than Mia.
Mia has been unreliable every single time, by describing Lorenzo for example or by not understanding Lacey motives.

Would agree with this.

I can assure you tho, that Isaac did not fuck Lacey in MC hometown, there is simply no indication of it, quite the opposite.

I disagree, there is no indication at all, it is purposefully kept very ambigious. I guess we'll see next update, because you just know, we will be buying his house....if it's the same as in the pictures....(sorry, but I'm calling it now lol).

Another subtle tidbit is how Lacey doesn't protest when Isaac is defined as her ex, one might think that she just isn't interested in doing that or whatever, but then she protests when Lorenzo is called the same.

So why is playboy, fuckboi Isaac so obsessed over a 3 week party doll (who he admits never gave a shit about him or cared about him)? Which suggests it was far more than just 3 weeks of drunken drugged up sex....doesn't it?

 

[redoubt27]

Ch.3 is the next stop on this crazy train.
Just have to wait and see...

 

[DeviantFun]

Would agree with this.

I disagree, there is no indication at all, it is purposefully kept very ambigious. I guess we'll see next update, because you just know, we will be buying his house....if it's the same as in the pictures....(sorry, but I'm calling it now lol).

So why is playboy, fuckboi Isaac so obsessed over a 3 week party doll (who he admits never gave a shit about him or cared about him)? Which suggests it was far more than just 3 weeks of drunken drugged up sex....doesn't it?

Hmmm, you know what, I stand by the fact there is no indication, but the idea is very intriguing.

Read this:

M "I guess he heard about Lacey through all the parties she went to."
M "He was graduating and got a contract to play professional football and wanted to party."
M "I introduced them and I guess Lacey decided to go through with it."
M "It was supposed to be for one night."
M "But it turned into two and then a week and then three weeks."

So Isaac was still graduating and just got a contract, I understand this game is weird about realism on money matters, but how the fuck did he already have the mansion?

Now I hope that it is true, because it would be another shit show, not even MC ability to make friends can save him.

About Isaac, his attachment is another surreal thing, he could have anyone and anything, I understand "falling in love" with the girl that is suuuuuper slutty in bed even if she is damaged, who didn't go through that in life at least once.
But stuff moves on, he could have found 15 Laceys or Mary Sue in a matter of seconds.

Lacey admits freely that there was an attachment, actually by going though a Mia conversation (the same I posted an excerpt of) we know that MANY men had an attachment towards Lacey and Lacey did too (normal and scientific, having sex creates emotional connections, especially in women i have to go back and read the literature again but this is what I remember, it has been many years), but as soon as Lacey felt it, she pushed them away.

She got close to not pushing Isaac away, she says it was brief, I think it is thanks to Anna only.

 

[AL.d]

So why is playboy, fuckboi Isaac so obsessed over a 3 week party doll (who he admits never gave a shit about him or cared about him)? Which suggests it was far more than just 3 weeks of drunken drugged up sex....doesn't it?

Because they obviously had something more than just drugged up party sex. Mia is telling the truth.

It would be hard to imagine with his act 1 persona, but as he is now, it makes sense. He obviously wasn't the dumb brute he appeared initially. If you think of his current persona interacting with her and combine it with the fact he was giving her exactly what she wanted sexually, there is no way some kind of stronger attachment wouldn't form. It's kinda how female psyche works in those matters.

And it is why she was still curious about him when he went to their apartment. He was practically an ex boyfriend.

 

[Maviarab]

Because they obviously had something more than just drugged up party sex. Mia is telling the truth.

It would be hard to imagine with his act 1 persona, but as he is now, it makes sense. He obviously wasn't the dumb brute he appeared initially. If you think of his current persona interacting with her and combine it with the fact he was giving her exactly what she wanted sexually, there is no way some kind of stronger attachment wouldn't form. It's kinda how female psyche works in those matters.

And it is why she was still curious about him when he went to their apartment. He was practically an ex boyfriend.

Oh I agreee completey, my question was rhetorical, not actually a question. But after 3 weeks alone? Not buying it...especially given ther amount of K she is supposed to have taken (along with alcohol), she would not feel any emotion at all....this is stated over and over again.

 

[DeviantFun]

Because they obviously had something more than just drugged up party sex. Mia is telling the truth.

It would be hard to imagine with his act 1 persona, but as he is now, it makes sense. He obviously wasn't the dumb brute he appeared initially. If you think of his current persona interacting with her and combine it with the fact he was giving her exactly what she wanted sexually, there is no way some kind of stronger attachment wouldn't form. It's kinda how female psyche works in those matters.

And it is why she was still curious about him when he went to their apartment. He was practically an ex boyfriend.

Oh I agreee completey, my question was rhetorical, not actually a question. But after 3 weeks alone? Not buying it...

Alone for 3 weeks minus 3 days, the pimp had to check in to evaluate the merchandise.

So he was her ex, a 3 week ex but an ex nonetheless.

Mia is not saying anything Lacey isn't saying, did you get the second Isaac scene and the aftermath?

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And then we get the second part with Lacey, Anna and MC and Anna keeps Lacey honest.

I don't know what you guys are trying to uncover here, the deep attachment you think happened, never happened.
She was attached in the same way to stephen with a ph, as soon as she caught something he sent him away.
Look I can add that it could even be a bit more, but still, no love.

You're making me defend Lacey during her college period ffs.

Maviarab you edited your post and made a VERY good point, but K doesn't stunt your emotions completely, the disassociation is a bit weird to explain, especially in english.

 

[AL.d]

Alone for 3 weeks minus 3 days, the pimp had to check in to evaluate the merchandise.

So he was her ex, a 3 week ex but an ex nonetheless.

Mia is not saying anything Lacey isn't saying, did you get the second Isaac scene and the aftermath?

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And then we get the second part with Lacey, Anna and MC and Anna keeps Lacey honest.

I don't know what you guys are trying to uncover here, the deep attachment you think happened, never happened.
She was attached in the same way to stephen with a ph, as soon as she caught something he sent him away.
Look I can add that it could even be a bit more, but still, no love.

You're making me defend Lacey during her college period ffs.

Was she tempted to fully commit and leave everything behind to Stephen with a ph? I think the game is pretty transparent in that relationship being the most important one she had during that time. It's why it gets so much spotlight and dev actually made the effort to humanize the dude beyond the usual bbc tropes in ntr.

I don't think it will matter that much at present, since I get the feeling Issac is getting increasingly more interested on MC's ass than Lacey's...

 

[DeviantFun]

Was she tempted to fully commit and leave everything behind to Stephen with a ph? I think the game is pretty transparent in that relationship being the most important one she had during that time. It's why it gets so much spotlight and dev actually made the effort to humanize the dude beyond the usual bbc tropes in ntr.

I don't think it will matter that much at present, since I get the feeling Issac is getting increasingly more interested on MC's ass than Lacey's...

You're right, she didn't with stephen, but it was because she still had hope, by the time Isaac came around she thought she would never be able to disassociate sex from abuse.
Then she got the stretch of her life and discovered that it worked for her.

And yes, to quote the game, the "ol' truth bomb" Isaac drops to Mc at the cafè kinda points to your suggestion.
We will see, honestly my unfounded by facts speculation is that we will be able to integrate him in some NTS scenario with some LI.
Tbh i hope not, his characterization in act 2 rubs me in the wrong way, not that I liked him before.

 

[redoubt27]

Mia is telling the truth.

You're just going to drive yourself crazy trying to analyze, interpret, or predict this story...
Because it's pretty crazy to consider Mia a beacon of truth in this story...

Other than factual events, like Lacey and Isaac fucking for 3 weeks, Lacey listening to MC's birthday message, etc., Mia hasn't been right about much regarding Lacey's feelings and intent... Mia's interpretations and insights are worthless.

Mia is making a similar mistake to everyone else (most people here included), trying to explain "crazy" from a normal, reasonable person's perspective... Lacey is neither normal, nor reasonable, just like this story...
And Mia is pretty fucked up herself...
Diane, Diana, whatever her name, is very close to the mark with Lacey, but not quite on the bullseye.
Lacey was in survival mode, which can come off as narcissistic, because that's exactly what survival, self preservation requires.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

You're right, she didn't with stephen, but it was because she still had hope, by the time Isaac came around she thought she would never be able to disassociate sex from abuse.
Then she got the stretch of her life and discovered that it worked for her.

And yes, to quote the game, the "ol' truth bomb" Isaac drops to Mc at the cafè kinda points to your suggestion.
We will see, honestly my unfounded by facts speculation is that we will be able to integrate him in some NTS scenario with some LI.
Tbh i hope not, his characterization in act 2 rubs me in the wrong way, not that I liked him before.

For any NTS path with any of the LI's it would need to be a complete neutral like Bradley for example someone that the MC explicitly trusts and doesn't have a history with Lacey

If It does happen with one of Lacey's ex's I just don't see anyway that the Dev could bend the story that much to make it fit and work , given the MC's stance on her past and her ex's otherwise at that stage you may as well just bin the game and let anyone fuck anyone as there's no point in a story at that stage

 

[DeviantFun]

You're just going to drive yourself crazy trying to analyze, interpret, or predict this story...
Because it's pretty crazy to consider Mia a beacon of truth in this story...

Other than factual events, like Lacey and Isaac fucking for 3 weeks, Lacey listening to MC's birthday message, etc., Mia hasn't been right about much regarding Lacey's feelings and intent... Mia's interpretations and insights are worthless.

Mia is making a similar mistake to everyone else (most people here included), trying to explain "crazy" from a normal, reasonable person's perspective... Lacey is neither normal, nor reasonable, just like this story...
And Mia is pretty fucked up herself...
Diane, Diana, whatever her name, is very close to the mark with Lacey, but not quite on the bullseye.
Lacey was in survival mode, which can come off as narcissistic, because that's exactly what survival, self preservation requires.

Thank you for putting my thoughts into writing so eloquently.
Your anallysis of Mia and Lacey is pretty on point in my book.
I would just add that Mia sucks, you missed that part

The problem with Lacey is that her survival mode is still lingering a bit too long, but she seems to be tackling or at least willing to tackle the issue.

This is why she got an 8/10 as character for this act from me.

 

[AL.d]

You're just going to drive yourself crazy trying to analyze, interpret, or predict this story...
Because it's pretty crazy to consider Mia a beacon of truth in this story...

Other than factual events, like Lacey and Isaac fucking for 3 weeks, Lacey listening to MC's birthday message, etc., Mia hasn't been right about much regarding Lacey's feelings and intent... Mia's interpretations and insights are worthless.

Mia is making a similar mistake to everyone else (most people here included), trying to explain "crazy" from a normal, reasonable person's perspective... Lacey is neither normal, nor reasonable, just like this story...
And Mia is pretty fucked up herself...
Diane, Diana, whatever her name, is very close to the mark with Lacey, but not quite on the bullseye.
Lacey was in survival mode, which can come off as narcissistic, because that's exactly what survival, self preservation requires.

There is no way to know the complete truth about her past, because all we have are the two different perspectives from them. The reason I lean more towards Mia's interpretation of Lacey from that time, is not because I think she is reliable. It is because I clearly see elements of the person Mia is describing on present Lacey.

And she is definitely a narcissist, I didn't need Diane's eval for that. Every single thing she does, even if it appears to be in favor of someone else, happens in order to maintain control and push things towards the direction that favors her. The fact she immediately approaches any female that appears outside her circle, doesn't happen on accident. It transforms them from possible rivals, to tools of control.