VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[rhune]

I’d recommend subscribing to his patreon if you like the writing. There’s currently a vote going on what the next project is going to be about

I’m going to subscribe to his Patreon — despite all its flaws, I really enjoyed the game On Distant Shores. I loved the ending, and I also really like On the Mountain Top, even though it's unfortunately on hold

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Been thinking about this one:

Not specifically all the girls moving in...but when the MC states, not going to mention it straight away, in case Lacey is excited, because I'm petty. So wait...

All the time (3 weeks iirc) Lacey was getting split open by Isaac...was actually just down the road, same city, as where the MC is. Correct? Not away at college....not some 'random' place ISaac has, hius actual house...close by. So, and given the timeframes...of how long Lacey 'needs' before coming back to the MC, 'finish' her studies....'move' to the citry with the job offer Anna got her...

When she was actually...already there, being railed by Isaac on the daily....

Have I missed something?

That’s an interesting thought,
I had just assumed that it was in college.

But just imagine, MC goes to show Lacey the house, and it turns outs she’s christened evry room already

 

[Maviarab]

I had just assumed that it was in college.

Exactly...because it was in her last year....apparently....after 'everything else she did'....we all just assume that....

However, it doesn't appear it was...Isaac's hometown is here, MC is here, Lacey 'apparently' (big apparently there)....'came' to the city to be with the MC/job..

We also know, at the time, he was already a pro footballer, rich and famous. He was not in college.....

Apparently....

Btw DeviantFun I know you're far more invested in this than me, have you done an accurate timeline btw? I might be interested to do one if you have not already. I think this might help with a lot of conversations, especially my points above.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Honestly act 2 has me somewhat conflicted as by the end of act 1 the theory I had in my head was that Lacey wanted other women to be involved as they individually made up the parts of Lacey that she lost

Cristine-touch
Kelly-empathy and compassion
Anna- unwavering love
Mia - is her careful free fun side but she will essentially act as laceys self control ( this one I don't know what to put this as now haha )

But so on and so forth with the other LI'S , now this is what I thought at the end of act 1

Now by the end of act 2 it feels like they are out here playing Pokémon but instead of catching Pokémon it's mental illnesses and multiple personalities and really leaning into the gotta catch them all aspect of it

 

[JEER0X]

Just to be away from Lacey, she is exhausting and has everyone under her control, they respect her marriage somewhat.
They want to talk about fucking and loving MC.
I could have understood if these were small gatherings, like 1 on 1 or 3 perople get togheter.
The full on gaggle feels like high school drama.

Hmm i think you got that wrong everyone is under Mia's Control.

I'm going to stop playing this game — it's a shame because it's very well written, and I truly commend the author on that. But I think the premise that this is a NTR game 'for those who hate NTR' is misleading. All the typical NTR elements are present, and the realism of the characters makes it very effective. It's so well written that it actually makes me feel bad while playing, and I'm not a masochist, lol. That said, I understand why the game is popular — it's well deserved — and I’ll gladly play this author’s other non-NTR games

yeah man this game fucked me up for a couple weeks when i played act 1 i was having conspiracy theory meeting with friends and shit trying to decode what i just played

I am not a fan of some of the planned tags but as long as the choice to avoid them remains I will let it slide.

I really hope we get more choices soon and they actually do something ingame ( and more sex scenes with the ladys hehe)

 

[AL.d]

I completely agree, and I think the biggest weakness of the game for me is the Damien part — not only was it unavoidable, but its severity was completely brushed aside in Chapter 2. That’s the aspect that, in my opinion, gives the MC a cuckold-like position.

It's funny how the worst possible marital offense barely registered and yet he keeps whining about shit she was doing when she had fucked off to college. My dude she just manipulated you into cucking, without ever actually asking you and you saw it all happening live in 4k. Some old ass pics of her running the carousel have nothing on this.

 

[JEER0X]

Been thinking about this one:

Not specifically all the girls moving in...but when the MC states, not going to mention it straight away, in case Lacey is excited, because I'm petty. So wait...

All the time (3 weeks iirc) Lacey was getting split open by Isaac...was actually just down the road, same city, as where the MC is. Correct? Not away at college....not some 'random' place ISaac has, hius actual house...close by. So, and given the timeframes...of how long Lacey 'needs' before coming back to the MC, 'finish' her studies....'move' to the citry with the job offer Anna got her...

When she was actually...already there, being railed by Isaac on the daily....

Have I missed something?

Did this happen? Or theory? I'm leaning towards the Prego thing now more than anything for that 1 year thing and since Isaac was her last railer i would assume if she has a secret kid it would be his

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Did this happen? Or theory? I'm leaning towards the Prego thing now more than anything for that 1 year thing and since Isaac was her last railer i would assume if she has a secret kid it would be his

Just a theory atm, but would nicely tie into the hidden pregnancy theory

 

[Maviarab]

Hmm i think you got that wrong everyone is under Mia's Control.

Yeah which is an interesting point/plot regarding Lacey's absolutism about Mia being her friend and never betraying her. I pointed it out in my first post after playing the update, Mia has betrayed her three times now. The switch from everyone being controlled by Lacey (at least in her head) to Mia is an interesting one, and quite worrisome given how she has them all wrapped around her little finger, and has admitted she wants MC/Lacey to break up.

I really hope we get more choices soon and they actually do something ingame ( and more sex scenes with the ladys hehe)

Following on from this comment, and my comment right above in this post, there is no harem planned. It does seem if we ever can leave Lacey, it will only be for one girl. Though I suspect leaving Lacey, regardless of what happens, what she does, what anyone else does, is never, ever going to happen. The other girls are not LI's...we need to stop calling them as such, they are side pieces that will be allowed by Lacey.

Did this happen? Or theory?

All happens. Stated in the game. MC not going to tell her about Isaac's house/offer....him being scared she'll be excited (so from this, we have to assume it's the same house, though here, the MC could be projecting I suppose) and him saying he not telling because he is petty. Lacey's three weeks with Isaac, confirmed by both Lacey and Mia. Now yes, you can argue are either being truthful here, we never get a timeframe from Isaac himself iirc.

However, that's why I asked about the house. Is it the same one...and if it is...we are led to believe Isaac was while she was still at college, after she 'got clean' and quit the K/drinking. Then came along Isaac and Mia pushing her (which we know she didn't even need to, Lacey was perfectly happy to attach herself to him).

If it is the same house, we know it's in the same city (as they can easily move there)....not away wherever Lacey was at college, and we do know it is not away, as Lacey states numerous times, she 'came back' to be near the mc/job with Anna. MC/Anna never went anywhere.

While still in college, undrafted football stars do not get 3 million houses and the fame Isaac already had. So he has to have started his pro career/left college and be in his first year (he states he is a rookie)...so was Lacey in the city a lot sooner than we/MC are actually being told. And while she was in the city, to come back for the MC (as she states) she was actually too busy being a junkie on Isaac's cock...to bother letting us know....again.

The timeline does not math....

 

[Sayora]

I completely agree, and I think the biggest weakness of the game for me is the Damien part — not only was it unavoidable, but its severity was completely brushed aside in Chapter 2. That’s the aspect that, in my opinion, gives the MC a cuckold-like position.

The video with Damien fits into the story quite well. (such a perverted decision could well have appeared in the sick brain of FMC), we only find out later that FMC is just a manipulative whore, so I approve .

But what really ruins the whole exciting story is - harem and the magical dick of MC that everyone wants to get on, including the neighbor's dog.

I stopped reading after the story with Damien, but then curiosity won out

 

[DeviantFun]

The video plot is the dumbest thing in the game so far. They all act relieved it was fake (if it was), when she practically shot an identical one, on live feed and even directly addressing her cuck hubby in it. Is it the l-bomb in the end that made it so different and unbelievable? They were are all present when she was fucking her co worker, that was a pretty loving interaction too.

They are like "oof so glad it's fake, I knew Lacey is not the same she was in the past". And I'm like bruh, are you all amnesiacs? She was high and getting piped, ignoring her husband's pleas, just a few days ago. In front of you.

The Lacey we see in the Damian video is super duper different then the one in the Barty video.
The difference is night and day.

She sucks for having sone the Damian one but it had a purpose in her head, but come on, they cannot even be comparable content wise.
The two Lacey's sound and act like two different people.

The fact that there is someone with all that info and Barty did the audio stuff is more glaring.
Who in their right mind wouldn't smash his door open and kick his ass until he confesses?

Exactly...because it was in her last year....apparently....after 'everything else she did'....we all just assume that....

However, it doesn't appear it was...Isaac's hometown is here, MC is here, Lacey 'apparently' (big apparently there)....'came' to the city to be with the MC/job..

We also know, at the time, he was already a pro footballer, rich and famous. He was not in college.....

Apparently....

Btw DeviantFun I know you're far more invested in this than me, have you done an accurate timeline btw? I might be interested to do one if you have not already. I think this might help with a lot of conversations, especially my points above.

I have a timeline in my head I think it is pretty precise, Isaac happened during college, he received the offer to play pro and was looking for a party for one night.
Lacey was trying to get clean but Mia had other plans.
So Lacey then spent 3 weeks almost overdosing everyday on ketamine and dick.

The JUICY part is that during those days MC was desperately trying to contact Lacey because he was about to kill himself while Lacey was taking K and dick like there was no tomorrow.
Disgusting.
If Anna didn't call the last time Mc would have gone through with it.

I could work on putting down a detailed timeline for everyone if there is interest.
Are we talking more about the college part? before? after?

 

[Maviarab]

The fact that there is someone with all that info and Barty did the audio stuff is more glaring.
Who in their right mind wouldn't smash his door open and kick his ass until he confesses?

I could work on putting down a detailed timeline for everyone if there is interest.
Are we talking more about the college part? before? after?

Everything from when she left onwards. If I was doing it, I would start day 1 as the day after she left the MC. That way we can track when things happened, time gap between 'incidents'....how long the story from Lacey reappearing has transpired etc.

Or may even be better to do day 1 as the day she appears at the MC's door. However, I think the college timeline is very important personally because, despite your comment on Isaac/house....the math still does not math, as I explained in my last post.

If he was in college, he not pro, and would not already be rich/famous and in a 3 million dollar house. He just wouldn't. Now, this could be a glaring error from a non US citizen and it's just very bad writing/research as to what would happen in RL. I'll accept that though for me, always, if writing something 'serious', then it should be spot on. If that issue is just a lack of knowledge, then it's inexcusable to me.

Personally, I don't think it is....I think Lacey has been 'back' far longer than she admits and even perhaps, was with Isaac for far longer than her or Mia admit. Isaac would not give two fucks about some party doll leaving after 3 weeks. His whole character....he wouldn't. Let's also not forgot, we know now, Anna is not beyond lying to the MC or withholding information 'for the greater good' and she was very much in Lacey's life and talking regularly after that phone call.

 

[rhune]

The Lacey we see in the Damian video is super duper different then the one in the Barty video.
The difference is night and day.

She sucks for having sone the Damian one but it had a purpose in her head, but come on, they cannot even be comparable content wise.
The two Lacey's sound and act like two different people.

The fact that there is someone with all that info and Barty did the audio stuff is more glaring.
Who in their right mind wouldn't smash his door open and kick his ass until he confesses?



I have a timeline in my head I think it is pretty precise, Isaac happened during college, he received the offer to play pro and was looking for a party for one night.
Lacey was trying to get clean but Mia had other plans.
So Lacey then spent 3 weeks almost overdosing everyday on ketamine and dick.

I could work on putting down a detailed timeline for everyone if there is interest.
Are we talking more about the college part? before? after?

You're absolutely right from a story-wise perspective — I totally agree with that. However, you're putting yourself in Lacey's shoes. What I'm questioning is the MC's perspective, because he’s not the player — he doesn’t have that emotional distance. The Damian part should have destroyed him completely, because she hurt him directly, humiliated him, and ignored his pain. It hits way harder than the Barty situation ever could

 

[AL.d]

The Lacey we see in the Damian video is super duper different then the one in the Barty video.
The difference is night and day.

She sucks for having sone the Damian one but it had a purpose in her head, but come on, they cannot even be comparable content wise.
The two Lacey's sound and act like two different people.

The fact that there is someone with all that info and Barty did the audio stuff is more glaring.
Who in their right mind wouldn't smash his door open and kick his ass until he confesses?



I have a timeline in my head I think it is pretty precise, Isaac happened during college, he received the offer to play pro and was looking for a party for one night.
Lacey was trying to get clean but Mia had other plans.
So Lacey then spent 3 weeks almost overdosing everyday on ketamine and dick.

The JUICY part is that during those days MC was desperately trying to contact Lacey because he was about to kill himself while Lacey was taking K and dick like there was no tomorrow.
Disgusting.
If Anna didn't call the last time Mc would have gone through with it.

I could work on putting down a detailed timeline for everyone if there is interest.
Are we talking more about the college part? before? after?

Are we splitting hairs figuring out what video of a wife having immense pleasure cucking her unwilling hubby is worse? Seriously now? Her cruelty was a bit more overt. Big deal.

My point is that the whole Damian thing proves she is very capable of doing something similar to what that video was showing when she is high. Acting shocked upon seeing it, when it's the same group admiring her awesome performance in 4K very recently, is silly.

 

[DeviantFun]

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I won't fall for the oldest trick in the book, you just want my ring.

Everything from when she left onwards. If I was doing it, I would start day 1 as the day after she left the MC. That way we can track when things happened, time gap between 'incidents'....how long the story from Lacey reappearing has transpired etc.

Or may even be better to day 1 as the day she appears at the MC's door. However, I think the collkege timeline is very important personally because, despite your comment on Isaac/house....the math stiull does not math, as I explained in my last post. If he was in college, he noit pro, and would not already be rich/famous and in a 3 million house. He just wouldn't.

Ok I'll start on working on it tonight, now I have RL matters to attend.

 

[rhune]

The video with Damien fits into the story quite well. (such a perverted decision could well have appeared in the sick brain of FMC), we only find out later that FMC is just a manipulative whore, so I approve .

But what really ruins the whole exciting story is - harem and the magical dick of MC that everyone wants to get on, including the neighbor's dog.

I stopped reading after the story with Damien, but then curiosity won out

Indeed, the Damien scene does fit the story. What doesn't fit, in my opinion, is the lack of consequences. The premise claimed that the MC wouldn’t be a cuckold-type protagonist and that he’d have a backbone — but the absence of any real consequence regarding Damien says the exact opposite.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

Did this happen? Or theory? I'm leaning towards the Prego thing now more than anything for that 1 year thing and since Isaac was her last railer i would assume if she has a secret kid it would be his

Its just my theory but it was discussed and kinda fits a lot. If she actually gave birth and abandons the baby it fits even better, but i dont think she was pregnant by Isaac. For the hell of it, Lorenzo maybe?

My timetable goes like this.
- Lacey Stage 2 College thing, getting high and lots of sex.
- Gets pregnant by random dude.
- Maybe like 2 months passes. Firsts simptoms of pregnancy, early morning sickness, etc
- Lacey knows its pregnant and decides to clean up her act.
- Mia convinces her for a last hurrah
- 3 week with Isaac
- Lacey receives the Call from Anna, and decides to go to MC, but cant present herself as a pregnant junkie in front of him.
- She waits 1 year to give birth, abandons child, get herself deintoxicated and finish her carrear.
- Meets MC lying about her past in college.

 

[Maviarab]

Are we splitting hairs figuring out what video of a wife having immense pleasure cucking her unwilling hubby is worse? Seriously now? Her cruelty was a bit more overt. Big deal.

My point is that the whole Damian thing proves she is very capable of doing something similar to what that video was showing when she is high. Acting shocked upon seeing it, when it's the same group admiring her awesome performance in 4K very recently, is silly.

What is interesting here, is does the 'unknown', know about the Damian video? Is that why it was made specifically in the way it was, knowing how it would affect the MC? Did this video actually leak before Veronica and her legal team shut it down?

Deviant has mentioned before about just what do they know? Remember, the blonde intern doing the deep fake. She works at Veronica's. Surely, surely, she knows who Lacey is in that company. So exactly what grudge does she have against either Lacey, or the MC?

I mean obviously now, well, even when it started lol, the video porn crap is just truly fucking ridiculous. Start of Act 3 is removal company coming to pick up their stuff. Surely 'X' will see this, 2 months before the tenancy agreement ends. So what then? lol...it's just....however, regardless of another dent in their plans, blonde intern still exists...and obviously (because money alone is bullshit reason) has her own reasons to fuck with Lacey or the MC. I swear, if Mia is also involved in this I will roll my eyes so damn hard they will fall out of my head and honestly, if the dev carries on in Act3 with drama after drama after drama with more unknown people wanting Lacey and determined to have her, I will personally bitch slap anyone who praises the writing.

Because if the train wreck weak, dumb drama plots continue, I'll just be done with it.

I do find it interesting however, on the pornempire crap, whoever it is (because, I still refuse to believe it's Barty) seemingly does not want the girls and is happy for Will to fuck them.....

Ok I'll start on working on it tonight, now I have RL matters to attend.

I added more to my post btw, may want to go back to it

 

[JEER0X]

Its just my theory but it was discussed and kinda fits a lot. If she actually gave birth and abandons the baby it fits even better, but i dont think she was pregnant by Isaac. For the hell of it, Lorenzo maybe?

My timetable goes like this.
- Lacey Stage 2 College thing, getting high and lots of sex.
- Gets pregnant by random dude.
- Maybe like 2 months passes. Firsts simptoms of pregnancy, early morning sickness, etc
- Lacey knows its pregnant and decides to clean up her act.
- Mia convinces her for a last hurrah
- 3 week with Isaac
- Lacey receives the Call from Anna, and decides to go to MC, but cant present herself as a pregnant junkie in front of him.
- She waits 1 year to give birth, abandons child, get herself deintoxicated and finish her carrear.
- Meets MC lying about her past in college.

wait your timeline wouldn't work cause Issac was the last one she slept with no? and a baby takes 9 months so 3 months to get unfat and what if the baby is still around and mia or mia's family or hell even laceys family what ever happened to them? or for that matter the mc's family i have yet to see a single parent in this game now that i think about it everyone is young except barty

Also she was doing drugs and drinking a ton so while she was outta her mind and stuff if she did realise she was prego i would hope she would stop doing shit that would hurt the baby i dunno the effects of ket on kids

 

[Maviarab]

wait your timeline wouldn't work cause Issac was the last one she slept with no? and a baby takes 9 months so 3 months to get unfat and what if the baby is still around and mia or mia's family or hell even laceys family what ever happened to them? or for that matter the mc's family i have yet to see a single parent in this game now that i think about it everyone is young except barty

I think a lot of that can be put down to stuff that happens in all our lives, daily, but is never shown because, why show it? We know it happens. (Like idiot devs showing the MC pissing in the toilet. Really, what is the fucking point of showing that shit?)

We don't need to see the MC or Mia having a phone call with parents, nor any other character. Lacey, naturally, I assume, cut them off completely when she left.