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I don't think this line makes much sense.
There is no indication of it anywhere, quite the opposite, in the same other side dialogue Lacey mentions that even if she din't love Mc anymore she would never be able to repay the debt and would stay with him.

It would have made sense if the opposite happebned, MC blaming himself for not having been ablle to do more, which is obviously nonsensicall considered the ages we are talking about.
But that fits way more, feelling powerless to save what you want to save the most and than being left behind ccause of it (it is not what happens but a possible perception of it)
Admittedly, I just got the idea and started writing, but in the context of this being something that neither she nor MC is ready to face, it would make sense. People can have feelings that aren't justified, and Lacey would certainly know that she's not justified after all that MC did for her. Similar to Lacey's fantasy of 3 weeks with Ketamine and MC. She definitely doesn't want Ketamine anymore, but it's still something inside her.

The following is her explaining why she abandoned MC

L "You had to know how much you meant to me."
L "But I was a very broken teenage girl."
L "Every time I thought of kissing you or any kind of intimacy with you,"
L "all of my pain and suffering would cloud my mind."
L "I would see my mother's cold cruelty."
L "I would see my father's physical and sexual abuse."
L "I couldn't just see 'you'."
L "The only thing I wanted to see."
L "Intimacy made me sick all the way down to my core."
L "I had to find a way to overcome that so I could love you."
L "I thought if I learned to stand up on my own that I could learn and grow."

She doesn't mention or hint in this that she resents/hates MC with abuse currently, but she does mention that she saw abuse anytime she even thought of any kind of intimacy with him. I imagine that'd leave scars for a girl if her mind replays her getting sexually and physically abused anytime she thinks about being intimate with her boyfriend.


I will mention that I have other ideas that I had posted already, but this is the one I'm liking if we don't get any further details or reasonings behind the 1460 days.

(P.S. she does still not text MC after Anna's phone call after she discovered the reset. For whatever reason, she still only contacts MC after he gets his first job. I'd like to think that this means there was some form of blackmail or manipulation that would explain/excuse these actions, but who knows. Hopefully, we will find out in Act 3!)
 
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Admittedly, I just got the idea and started writing, but in the context of this being something that neither she nor MC is ready to face, it would make sense. People can have feelings that aren't justified, and Lacey would certainly know that she's not justified after all that MC did for her. Similar to Lacey's fantasy of 3 weeks with Ketamine and MC. She definitely doesn't want Ketamine anymore, but it's still something inside her.

The following is her explaining why she abandoned MC

L "You had to know how much you meant to me."
L "But I was a very broken teenage girl."
L "Every time I thought of kissing you or any kind of intimacy with you,"
L "all of my pain and suffering would cloud my mind."
L "I would see my mother's cold cruelty."
L "I would see my father's physical and sexual abuse."
L "I couldn't just see 'you'."
L "The only thing I wanted to see."
L "Intimacy made me sick all the way down to my core."
L "I had to find a way to overcome that so I could love you."
L "I thought if I learned to stand up on my own that I could learn and grow."

She doesn't mention or hint in this that she resents/hates MC with abuse currently, but she does mention that she saw abuse anytime she even thought of any kind of intimacy with him. I imagine that'd leave scars for a girl if her mind replays her getting sexually and physically abused anytime she thinks about being intimate with her boyfriend.


I will mention that I have other ideas that I had posted already, but this is the one I'm liking if we don't get any further details or reasonings behind the 1460 days.

(P.S. she does still not text MC after Anna's phone call after she discovered the reset. For whatever reason, she still only contacts MC after he gets his first job. I'd like to think that this means there was some form of blackmail or manipulation that would explain/excuse these actions, but who knows. Hopefully, we will find out in Act 3!)
The fantasy with ketamine is easily explained by the "discovery".
Since we are specullating randomly it would also be because she was having a lot of fun and wants to relive that with someone she truly trusts and cares about.

For the reason about leaving MC, we all know it makes little sense, Lacey regrets it quite a bit.
She admits that with the help of MC they would have discovered red bra in a matter of weeks.
Her answer at the pool party about sex actually bothers me a bit but I guess it could be interpreted and placed in an ambiguous way.

She kept seeing her abuse in most of her partners until the 3 weeks, I know you know, it is just a reminder.

The reason why she doesn't contact MC is that she is finishing her studies and wants to be clean, compounded by shame, fear and regret.

i don-t know, I llike to speculate but some things are kinda clear, obviously , since this is fiction, the author could choose to retcon everything.
 
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L "You had to know how much you meant to me."
L "But I was a very broken teenage girl."
L "Every time I thought of kissing you or any kind of intimacy with you,"
L "all of my pain and suffering would cloud my mind."
L "I would see my mother's cold cruelty."
L "I would see my father's physical and sexual abuse."
L "I couldn't just see 'you'."
L "The only thing I wanted to see."
L "Intimacy made me sick all the way down to my core."
L "I had to find a way to overcome that so I could love you."
L "I thought if I learned to stand up on my own that I could learn and grow."
And she did go and made herself the campus bycicle. Destroying her conection between emotions and sex.

What you posted is one third of the reasons the whole slutting around happened. The other 2, getting praised by and making others including the pimp proud. And of course because she just fucking loved it.

I could see a tiny twisted logic where she kind of redirects blame on him. Something like if he ignored her desires and had come to take her away, nothing of what happened in college whould have happened.

But the abuse by her family, nah, she is not pinning anything of that on him. She would have been scared of touch and intimacy no matter with who, and we know how she fixed that.

He was her shield, emotional blanket, protector and hero. He made her the entirety of his core being. More than she even realizes at some points of the story. The entire dialogue posted is the "logic" for her slutting, the fear of never seeing beyond her abuse but its not linking it to him, not beyond that he is a victim of her own twisted vision of the world due to the trauma.
 
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So when you first pick an option that reduces your good guy points(Which I never had the heart to follow through with), it mentions that depletion of those points could lead to a bad ending. What are everyone's thoughts on what each ending might be? I also wonder if you maintain your good guy points and raise your love points high enough, if there will be a third, golden ending.
 
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Well said, my opinion of this story is very similar, I just can't express it that well, because my English is a bit poor. And I wonder if our thoughts are so alike because we have a lot in common in our lives. Lost twenties, escapism, lack of friends and loved ones, those attempts...
I won't deny, maybe it's naivety, but for now I'm easily forgiving everyone of MC's friends, MC and of course Lacey. I trust them and I hope noone of them will appear as enemy. Because as MC said: "I would never be okay again".
More than everything I wish the best possible ending for all of them. My most favourite dream is a harem of course, where all of them are happy, seen, loved, everyone care about each other. Even despite that's not really possible. At least for all of them to find their happiness. There's so much depressing things in a real life, so I'm praying for the really happy end at least in the story that I fell in love with.
Thank you so much! It means a lot to hear you say that, and it makes me feel less alone to hear that others have similar experiences, as awful as those experiences are. We will get through this. I grow slowly, but I have been growing, and after all, it is with slow and steady steps that one climbs a mountain. I would also like to add that English is a beautiful bitch of a language at the best of times, and that to me, your English seems perfectly good, and you are able to convey your thoughts in a way that makes me smile and feel happy.

I don't think it's naivety to strive to forgive people for their fuck ups and flaws, even when it hurts and they have wronged you. I deeply hope that we are all capable of positive growth and change. Certainly, the characters of this story have demonstrated that. I know I'm clapping my hands for Tinkerbell and hoping for a truly happy ending.

It's fun to think about what a healthy harem would look like, where the women are not only loved and connected with the man but also with each other. I would highly recommend a game called The Last Sovereign. It's an excellent fantasy RPG about just such a harem saving the world. It has great characters and writing. But also an intimidating one with so many variables and choices.
 
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That was probably me. I know its a theory with no legs to stand on, and I am just preparing for the worst. The only thing I have got to support that is meta knowledge you could say. Big titties, blond, description how she forgot to cover herself for the call, timing of the call, all unnecessary details for the plot seem to be a Chekhov`s gun moment, included deliberately with a purpose. At the very least Veronica is hiding something.
I'm probably wrong. I went back, and Will's girlfriend doesn't seem to have bigger tits than Lacey... But fuck I still hope you're wrong. I want to hope for the best. I don't want Veronica to be either willfully involved or blackmailed, although it would be some damn good drama. I'm hoping that Veronica forgetting to cover herself for the call was because she felt so at ease and comfortable in Lacey and the MC's home. Maybe the person who they deepfaked Lacey onto is just someone we have not met yet... although that does seem unlikely.

Also, I don't like you saying your theory has no legs to stand on. It certainly is as valid as any theory I or anyone else has, and your train of logic makes sense. I just really don't want it to be so. If it is true, do you think it's blackmail or something else that has her involved? Could you go into more detail about why the timing of the call was important? I agree that most things that are in the story are important in one way or another, even if they seem small at the time(Which speaks highly of the author). I'm just blanking on why the time of the call has added importance.
 
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For sure the smiling pics that the pimp shows MC do point towards a similar direction to what you are implying, without the drugs.

But I think that is a bit on the nose and Lacey denied it in front of the pimp, is she hiding herself from the pimp too?
I don't think that is the case.

I said often how much I'd like to see Lacey's junior year explored, there is a lot of stuff there aside from sex and even if I am now being considered a Lacey simp :ROFLMAO: I think she is NOT being fully honest there.
She had fun too, quite a bit as well.

Sure, the gangbangs where harsh, she was treated poorly, the sex wasn't great most of the time, at some point it would hurt and she was doing it also to punish herself + pleasing her pimp.
But she went to raves, she shared toothbrushes with her exes, she went to carnival fairs and she also had outdoor "parties".
Whille laughing with her pimp about silly cock nicknames, planning the next slut dress and events.
Remember that she said people could participate on what she wanted to do on that specific night, no requests? Well folks dragged motorcicles in for her to be fucked on, did she plan that as well?

So, did she really spend most of the time between parties wallowing about MC and her abuse? Was she THAT miserable?
I am not saying she wasn't, she was a fucking lot but probably not as much as we are told, or at least way less than she convinced herself of.
And lets not forget first and second periods, which are barely touched, all the time before the pimp kicked into gear and started the full on abuse.

I still think the writing is leading more towards Lacey smiling because she was sober and was able to go through with it + the pimp was VERY pleased.
I cannot shake those thoughts from my mind, if you think about it, if Lacey was able to go through with the pimp requests anyway, why it was so necessary for the pimp to have the last hurrah laced with drugs? Could it be that getting drunk and on drugs was actually fun for them?
I want to see it! I WANT TO SEE IT ALL!

PSA: I have seen some posts with people liking and praising Mia.
Please get help, get help to recognize signs of abuse around you, so you can help yourself or a friend in the future.
And I am only half joking.
Mia is a despicable bitch but...every time her version of college events contradicts Lacey's, in time she is proven to be the true one. Except for minor shit like a dude's dick size. From the two, she has definitely been the more honest one towards MC regarding the past. Despite that revealing her as the bitch she is to him.

Lacey says she had no bfs in college, Mia reveals she not only was the college bike, but she did indeed had bfs too. And in time we get to meet one.

Lacey says she doesn't really remember the shit she was doing, Mia claims the opposite. Turns out she remembers just fine, with details.

Lacey says she wasn't really enjoying what she was doing, just going through the motions. Mia shows receipts about the opposite. Then MC gets first seat seeing her with Damian and obviously learns the truth first hand. She was having a blast.

Mia claims she didn't really have to work hard to get her to do all that shit. Just a simple suggestion like "wanna go do that?". And Lacey would just go for it. That obviously indicates all those were things she really wanted to do. Again, with the Damian scene we see that is the truth. We actually see a version of that with Jared and the other dude at work. They were like "hey how about you wear sluttier clothes?" And she practically responds with ok, good idea!

I don't think Mia's perception of Lacey is wrong. She considers college Lacey to be her true self and we see plenty of evidence in current events that support that. Lacey has been shown to lie/ommit information so many times, that at this point assuming the exact opposite every time she says something about her past, is the safest bet.
 

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After reaching the end it is revealed that one of the conspirators is Will, the other Familiar Voice is male who claimed to have assumed a new personality to deceive other people and who has an interest in building a deep fake porn empire with Lacey, Anna and Mia as the stars. We also know he is tech savvy and the blonde girl who played in the Lacey video is a student and intern at work. So, it can't be Christine. Primary suspects are Jared, or a manager from work.
It could be Laceys dad, I don't remember if he's dead or anything. He was a piece of shit so..he could be involved.
 
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It could be Laceys dad, I don't remember if he's dead or anything. He was a piece of shit so..he could be involved.
I considered this also , but what I'm hung up on is the fimaliar voice element - is that voice familiar to us as the player ( meaning we have met the character) or is it fimaliar to the characters in the game only at the moment ( meaning we haven't met them)

So I haven't a clue who the monster is or who the voice is .... But I'm fairly certain the monster is someone close to the MC or potentially within his inner circle

The voice I think could either be a character we haven't met yet or it's a character we have met but they are using will as a proxy as they know they will never get close to the grow because of there past actions
 

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Mia is a despicable bitch but...every time her version of college events contradicts Lacey's, in time she is proven to be the true one. Except for minor shit like a dude's dick size. From the two, she has definitely been the more honest one towards MC regarding the past. Despite that revealing her as the bitch she is to him.

Lacey says she had no bfs in college, Mia reveals she not only was the college bike, but she did indeed had bfs too. And in time we get to meet one.

Lacey says she doesn't really remember the shit she was doing, Mia claims the opposite. Turns out she remembers just fine, with details.

Lacey says she wasn't really enjoying what she was doing, just going through the motions. Mia shows receipts about the opposite. Then MC gets first seat seeing her with Damian and obviously learns the truth first hand. She was having a blast.

Mia claims she didn't really have to work hard to get her to do all that shit. Just a simple suggestion like "wanna go do that?". And Lacey would just go for it. That obviously indicates all those were things she really wanted to do. Again, with the Damian scene we see that is the truth. We actually see a version of that with Jared and the other dude at work. They were like "hey how about you wear sluttier clothes?" And she practically responds with ok, good idea!

I don't think Mia's perception of Lacey is wrong. She considers college Lacey to be her true self and we see plenty of evidence in current events that support that. Lacey has been shown to lie/ommit information so many times, that at this point assuming the exact opposite every time she says something about her past, is the safest bet.
The Pimp has no fucking clue about Lacey college experience.
I am surprised you mention that she is often right when she has been consistently wrong.
Thinking that her perception of Lacey was the right one is incorrect.
The Pimp, being of limited mental capacity, misses the mark by miles.

The Pimp started growing that idea of Lacey so she could do the heinous stuff without feeling guilty, remember, she is pushing Lacey to do this stuff to help HERSELF and her hangup, the rest is all collateral, no matter how much she thinks she was helping Lacey.
So she created this wonderful idea of Lacey in her head, so she won't feel bad in abusing a traumatized girl.

Again, over time Lacey does get corrupted and goes to the deep end, accepts more and more and I mentioned that I think she is still had more fun than she is willing to admit (more later).

You are also missing the point on how dependant Lacey is on external validation, her fondest memories of getting fucked are tied on making the Pimp proud.
This easily translates to Jared and Evan weak manipulation, she is seeking validation and compliments.
One of her work crushes is a crush only because she got plenty of compliments.

So I think you are assigning her behaviour to the wrong motives, don't worry, it is still shitty behaviour.

Also you are wrong on some aspects, you are remembering only act 2.
For example, Lacey sends away every partner as soon as they want anything more than sex, Pimp confirms this.
The Pimp has to convince her for weeks to do stuff at the beginning, Lacey didn't want to do stuff, actual quote:
"It might make you feel better to know it took me weeks to convince her to learn the next lesson"
Lacey was resisting the Pimp corruption, until she was fucked up and didn't, K makes Lacey compliant and she was often on K as the time went on.

On a different note, my appetite grew larger and stronger.

How many parties turned sour?

Lacey is bllitzed, doesn't know half of what is going on, Pimp is there to "take care of her" even though we know Lacey was being roughed up often, I guess the Pimp considered that it was all in the service list.

Now, how many times a group of guys got more handsy than they should, got too violent, threw stuff on her, pulled her in a back room, spat on her.
Do you think a small latina girl is going to be able to do anything? Considering she was spending her time going around and havin fun at the parties do you think she actually noticed? Do we actually think none of the dude ever forced Lacey to give them a rimjob to him and his mates? Now THAT would be a blow.
I bet there is a lot of wonderful tales of that and I want them too.
Plus I want to know how they transported the copious amount of Lube Lacey was going through, obviously not water based, it had to be oil based to last and also the reason Lacey doesn't use condoms.

Since I am sick in the head, I want to know how many times she got infections, even if we believe she never got an STD, she must have had candida infections weekly (it is called the honeymoon infection for a reason).
Show me the truth!
 
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The Pimp has no fucking clue about Lacey college experience.
I am surprised you mention that she is often right when she has been consistently wrong.
Thinking that her perception of Lacey was the right one is incorrect.
The Pimp, being of limited mental capacity, misses the mark by miles.

The Pimp started growing that idea of Lacey so she could do the heinous stuff without feeling guilty, remember, she is pushing Lacey to do this stuff to help HERSELF and her hangup, the rest is all collateral, no matter how much she thinks she was helping Lacey.
So she created this wonderful idea of Lacey in her head, so she won't feel bad in abusing a traumatized girl.

Again, over time Lacey does get corrupted and goes to the deep end, accepts more and more and I mentioned that I think she is still had more fun than she is willing to admit (more later).

You are also missing the point on how dependant Lacey is on external validation, her fondest memories of getting fucked are tied on making the Pimp proud.
This easily translates to Jared and Evan weak manipulation, she is seeking validation and compliments.
One of her work crushes is a crush only because she got plenty of compliments.

So I think you are assigning her behaviour to the wrong motives, don't worry, it is still shitty behaviour.

Also you are wrong on some aspects, you are remembering only act 2.
For example, Lacey sends away every partner as soon as they want anything more than sex, Pimp confirms this.
The Pimp has to convince her for weeks to do stuff at the beginning, Lacey didn't want to do stuff, actual quote:
"It might make you feel better to know it took me weeks to convince her to learn the next lesson"
Lacey was resisting the Pimp corruption, until she was fucked up and didn't, K makes Lacey compliant and she was often on K as the time went on.

On a different note, my appetite grew larger and stronger.

How many parties turned sour?

Lacey is bllitzed, doesn't know half of what is going on, Pimp is there to "take care of her" even though we know Lacey was being roughed up often, I guess the Pimp considered that it was all in the service list.

Now, how many times a group of guys gets more handsy than they should, got too violent, threw stuff on her, pulled her in a back room, spat on her....
Do you think a 5' 4" girl is going to be able to do anything? Considering she was spending her time going around and havin fun at the parties doyou think she actually noticed?
I bet there is a lot of wonderful tales of that and I want them too.
But I didn't mention anything about motives. The validation thing is right and she is still like that. The fact of the matter is she has been caught lying multiple times about those events. This is undeniable.

It doesn't matter if she dumped them after a while or not. When you do all the things that a couple does, you are exactly that. It's not the length that defines it. If I'm fucking someone, sleeping with them, spending time together and doing shit like sharing toothbrushes, we are obviously in a relationship.

I'd be inclined to believe Mia is wrong, if act 1 Lacey was a model wife, who didn't almost whore herself because of her need for validation from other men, didn't do hardcore cuckolding to her loving husband enjoying every second of it and she didn't drag him to jealousy dates to satisfy her desires. Or run to wear her slutty dress and go flirt with a pothead because she received a mean text. She is portrayed to have piss poor impulse control and at times to be completely driven by her desires.

I don't believe Mia's versions because she is trustworthy. I believe them because I see evidence of that behavior in current Lacey.
 

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But I didn't mention anything about motives. The validation thing is right and she is still like that. The fact of the matter is she has been caught lying multiple times about those events. This is undeniable.

It doesn't matter if she dumped them after a while or not. When you do all the things that a couple does, you are exactly that. It's not the length that defines it. If I'm fucking someone, sleeping with them, spending time together and doing shit like sharing toothbrushes, we are obviously in a relationship.
On the relationship thing, I agree, MC agrees and act 2 Lacey agrees.
We all agree, the Pimp still gets it wrong on who Lacey considered a relationship or not.

I never denied the fact that Lacey lied or lies.

The problem is that the Pimp is always incorrect and it is shown in game that she is.

I'd be inclined to believe Mia is wrong, if act 1 Lacey was a model wife, who didn't almost whore herself because of her need for validation from other men, didn't do hardcore cuckolding to her loving husband enjoying every second of it and she didn't drag him to jealousy dates to satisfy her desires. Or run to wear her slutty dress and go flirt with a pothead because she received a mean text. She is portrayed to have piss poor impulse control and at times to be completely driven by her desires.

I don't believe Mia's versions because she is trustworthy. I believe them because I see evidence of that behavior in current Lacey.
Lacey does all that, and the impulse control being abysmal is my leitmotiv for months now!
Pimp version is, at best, a very partial and skewed version of the facts, she doesn't even remember the cocks, mostly because she wasn't paying attention to Lacey or was interested in Lacey's feelings.

My goal for now is to know more exactly because of that, because I think the Pimp is way off the mark and Lacey is still sugarcoating some stuff.

I wish I could believe the Pimp, it would give me more elements, but as I said the game keeps on showing her as having no clue.
 
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On the relationship thing, I agree, MC agrees and act 2 Lacey agrees.
We all agree, the Pimp still gets it wrong on who Lacey considered a relationship or not.

I never denied the fact that Lacey lied or lies.

The problem is that the Pimp is always incorrect and it is shown in game that she is.



Lacey does all that, and the impulse control being abysmal is my leitmotiv for months now!
Pimp version is, at best, a very partial and skewed version of the facts, she doesn't even remember the cocks, mostly because she wasn't paying attention to Lacey or was interested in Lacey's feelings.

My goal for now is to know more exactly because of that, because I think the Pimp is way off the mark and Lacey is still sugarcoating some stuff.

I wish I could believe the Pimp, it would give me more elements, but as I said the game keeps on showing her as having no clue.
Question the pimp theory this I one for who we think the voice is? And that it's someone from Lacey's college days or not? I'm assuming there are posts further back that explain it in more detail but just wanted to check before I went looking
 

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On the relationship thing, I agree, MC agrees and act 2 Lacey agrees.
We all agree, the Pimp still gets it wrong on who Lacey considered a relationship or not.

I never denied the fact that Lacey lied or lies.

The problem is that the Pimp is always incorrect and it is shown in game that she is.



Lacey does all that, and the impulse control being abysmal is my leitmotiv for months now!
Pimp version is, at best, a very partial and skewed version of the facts, she doesn't even remember the cocks, mostly because she wasn't paying attention to Lacey or was interested in Lacey's feelings.

My goal for now is to know more exactly because of that, because I think the Pimp is way off the mark and Lacey is still sugarcoating some stuff.

I wish I could believe the Pimp, it would give me more elements, but as I said the game keeps on showing her as having no clue.
But how is she off the mark when we actually see Lacey engaging in that behavior in current day? She may be off about Lacey's reasons for enjoying the shit she was doing and I doubt even Lacey herself could really identify those. But the fact she has an inner slut who enjoys that shit, has already been revealed to us in 4k. And I do think it's implied by her with the other side of me line, although that's speculation.
 
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