The first dialogue you posted is just two bitches shifting their individual blame on each other. Because they are allergic to accountability.
hah, could be, but Lacey act 2 takes quite a lot, to the point of going against Mc seeing her as a good person and self accusing herself of narcissism.
If it was act 1 I woulld be 100% with you.
DF will obviously disagree on that, but I'm fully with Mia on Lacey doing all those things because she wanted to. Not because she was pushed to. She just deflects and shifts blame because she doesn't want to face the fact she really is that girl and after the initial barrier broke, Mia was just the excuse. And a nice validation fix.
I don't fully disagree, my position has always been that the pimp pushed Lacey at the beginning though all of the first phase, maybe some of the second, but from then on I fully trust Lacey, the game became pleasing her pimp, see if she could do what her pimp wanted.
You dismiss the need of validation Lacey has, and she got hers from her pimp, her lovers were tools.
One of the fondest memories of Lacey is being fucked by two guys, not because she lliked it particularly, but because her pimp was proud and impressed.
I am not discounting the "it was more fun that it is reported", fuck it is MY angle here, but I willl die on the hilll that at the beginning the pimp used her position ad Lacey's only friend to push her to do stuff and towards the end Lacey was addled enough to simply go with it and play her game.
This should give us a picture of their relationship.
On the other hand, if we agree that Lacey did what she wanted to do, as any fully functional adult who had no issue getting their degree would, then the "you let me" Mia uses here, is also pure hypocrisy and deflection. No one forced you to enable all that shit bitch. You could have pulled back and take the excuse from her anytime. But you didn't because you were getting off to it like a cuck.
At this point it seems pointless to discuss this, not because I don't value your opinion or dislike the discussion but because we are both pretty entrenched in our positions.
Well I am open to change it if the right argument comes along

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You see, you mix up being functional in society and being functional in personal life, I spent years going to work even getting promotions while being an absolute mess, a real mess.
It is not impossible, it is actually way more common than you think.
Lacey is fucked up man, like really fucked up and that doesn't give a free pass from me, she could have said no, but for the aforementioned reasons she went with it, also you forget she was suicidal for a lot of the time.
You hit the bullseye when you say that the pimp uses "you let me" as a deflection.
I would like to remind everyone of this:
M "We became friends and I made it my mission to help her explore everything she 'missed out on'."
M "I thought it was her way of saying 'fuck you' to her parents."
M "I was wrong."
M "What she was, was an empty shell."
M "With no real will to live."
M "She didn't fight me on anything I drug her through."
M "Things were getting really awful towards the end."
M "I was so happy when she finally came back up for air."
The way to say fuck you to her parents is to be gangbanged and treated like shit by hundreds of strangers, fine reasoning here, aristotelian logic to the max.
Lacey has no will to live, things were really awful, she came back for air....AND THEN I DECIDED FOR A LAST HURRAH
M "I figured since she was pulling her life back together that she'd be done."
M "But I wanted to see if I could push her one last time."
M "One final hurrah before getting cleaned up."
See how awful she is? How disgustingly selfish and shitty she is?
I want to see if anyone is willing to challenge the concept that MIA is the worst character in the story.
Come at me "Mia is a good girl" boys, come at me.
I have thrown the theory that mia felt more than friendship for Lacey, and that college past would be exactly what your meme means. But dunno Anna is there on a second place.
In act 1 it seems like so, but she underlines how she is not a lesbian.
M "Like I thought I was lesbian for a long time."
and this realization is before she meets Lacey
"There was a cute emo girl at a rave I went to in my freshmen year of college, and she made me cum really hard with her tongue"
M "Not that I didn't have fun with her, but I knew I was just confused and there wasn't a future for me down that road."
So it seems that is not the case, but she would still go down on a woman easily imo