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Lacey faces literally NO consequences ever, no matter what she does or what happens, nothing ever changes.
Not her relationship with the friends (maybe the crew could be an indication but it seems a group born with other purposes), not her relationship with MC, not her work, nothing.
Getting shouted at a few times by MC so he can be satisfied and retreat to his timeout cage is not exactly a consequence.
After Damian the dynamic should have shifted, hell, even after the atrocious 5 boxes dialogue, yet nothing happened.
Exactly, no consecuencies. She even wanted the MC being angry at her to come with a time limit :ROFLMAO:
 
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She does try to stop it before the kiss. :p
Yeah...full of conviction...'needing' the MC to stop her because she cannot stop herself as I said...right before she 'agressively' plants her lips on his....
 

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Lacey faces literally NO consequences ever, no matter what she does or what happens, nothing ever changes.
I mean, the Diane dialogue definitely makes me feel like the game does not endorse the Jealousy date, at least from the start of Act 2. Even when MC tries to explain it to Diane, he admits that it doesn't sound good. I could be totally wrong here, but it really seems to me like the story planted the seeds that the Jealousy date is something like a drug. It makes them feel euphoric in the moment and can supercharge their passion, but when that high comes down, there are consequences. If jealousy is abused, then it's bad (ie, losing good guy points). If it's just a little, it's mostly harmless.

When we talk about consequences, emotions can be a consequence as well. Lacey realizing that she hurt MC, again, is a consequence. It may not be very satisfying, but it is still a thing, and it can still drive Lacey to be better

Act 3 could totally prove me wrong. I hope I'm not, but I totally admit that I'm mostly speculating with some of this.
 
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Yeah...full of conviction...'needing' the MC to stop her because she cannot stop herself as I said...right before she 'agressively' plants her lips on his....
This is why I have made comments about it being similar to the drug. Lacey, in reference to the kiss, says "and I absolutely want that erased from my mind". In the moment, she wanted it more than anything. Afterwards, she regrets it

EDIT: it's actually in reference to what stage you allow, so stage 1 is the kiss, stage 2 is a cock in her mouth, stage 3 is with another man
Regardless, I think it implies that it was harmful
 

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EDIT: it's actually in reference to what stage you allow, so stage 1 is the kiss,
There is no choice to allow this or not, it happens automatically (I'm still damn sure there used to be a choice for the kiss originally, not there now though). There is only stage 1 blowjob, stage 2 sex.
 
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I mean, the Diane dialogue definitely makes me feel like the game does not endorse the Jealousy date, at least from the start of Act 2. Even when MC tries to explain it to Diane, he admits that it doesn't sound good. I could be totally wrong here, but it really seems to me like the story planted the seeds that the Jealousy date is something like a drug. It makes them feel euphoric in the moment and can supercharge their passion, but when that high comes down, there are consequences. If jealousy is abused, then it's bad (ie, losing good guy points). If it's just a little, it's mostly harmless.

When we talk about consequences, emotions can be a consequence as well. Lacey realizing that she hurt MC, again, is a consequence. It may not be very satisfying, but it is still a thing, and it can still drive Lacey to be better

Act 3 could totally prove me wrong. I hope I'm not, but I totally admit that I'm mostly speculating with some of this.
I understand, even in act 1 Lacey self chastised plenty, especially towards the end.
I am one of the few that actually defends that as a genuine concern.
This is why I want her to keep going and give us all the details of her past, they are needed for her character growth.

MC defends the jealousy date until the end, Lacey does actually say that it does not look good.

Even then, I understand the self reflection, but consequences cannot be tied only to that.
Where are the reactions of the world that compensate the actions of the characters?

Example: Why is the pimp called when MC is not alright instead of Anna when she has constantly betrayed Lacey and hurt MC thanks to her "games"?

And even after all what happens in act 2 everyone is comfortable in bringing her to the HONEYMOON? She is the one that worked against that marriage the most, did more damage than Jared and yet...

Even if we accept that Lacey would let anything go because she is used to her abusive behaviour and MC will follow like a lap dog, why isn't Anna pissed off?
Has she become a shit person that is now fine with MC being hurt because it fits with her agenda?

But let's go back to Lacey so we can understand how invonsistent the whole consequence thing is.
She gets more shit for going in the bathroom with fucking micro dick Lorenzo than the Damian stuff.
This cannot be it, it doesn't make any sense at all.

Veronica is a driven woman and a supposedly great professional, who in their right mind would trust Lacey after what she has done? I would never stick my neck out for a person in my team that is unreliable, my investment could go to waste and make me look back to upper management.
She is not even disappointed in Lacey.

Dress like a slut for other men? All the dresses and bikinis are still around EVEN ON MC SPECIAL WEEKEND.

I won't go into Veronica or Christine (which at least has half of a redemption arc) but you know that neither of them faced any consequences.

Ok that's it, but I hope you get what I mean when I say there is a severe lack of consequences, even emotional that pervade this game for some reason.
 

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I understand, even in act 1 Lacey self chastised plenty, especially towards the end.
I am one of the few that actually defends that as a genuine concern.
This is why I want her to keep going and give us all the details of her past, they are needed for her character growth.

MC defends the jealousy date until the end, Lacey does actually say that it does not look good.

Even then, I understand the self reflection, but consequences cannot be tied only to that.
Where are the reactions of the world that compensate the actions of the characters?

Example: Why is the pimp called when MC is not alright instead of Anna when she has constantly betrayed Lacey and hurt MC thanks to her "games"?

And even after all what happens in act 2 everyone is comfortable in bringing her to the HONEYMOON? She is the one that worked against that marriage the most, did more damage than Jared and yet...

Even if we accept that Lacey would let anything go because she is used to her abusive behaviour and MC will follow like a lap dog, why isn't Anna pissed off?
Has she become a shit person that is now fine with MC being hurt because it fits with her agenda?

But let's go back to Lacey so we can understand how invonsistent the whole consequence thing is.
She gets more shit for going in the bathroom with fucking micro dick Lorenzo than the Damian stuff.
This cannot be it, it doesn't make any sense at all.

Veronica is a driven woman and a supposedly great professional, who in their right mind would trust Lacey after what she has done? I would never stick my neck out for a person in my team that is unreliable, my investment could go to waste and make me look back to upper management.
She is not even disappointed in Lacey.

Dress like a slut for other men? All the dresses and bikinis are still around EVEN ON MC SPECIAL WEEKEND.

I won't go into Veronica or Christine (which at least has half of a redemption arc) but you know that neither of them faced any consequences.

Ok that's it, but I hope you get what I mean when I say there is a severe lack of consequences, even emotional that pervade this game for some reason.
We have no answers dude because....there are no answers. Once again I'll ask...intentional or dev just lost in his own script and thinks he far smarter than he actually is? Who knows.

The V one does make me laugh though....three times she had to get legal involved regarding Lacey (three times concerning diff guys in the company..she 'is' the common denominator lol). At this point, graphical prodigy or not...(especially in the USA), you'd just march her ass out of the door and already be posting a new job listing wouldn't you as she a bigger legal drama for Brimley than Jared is lol.
 
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Yeah...full of conviction...'needing' the MC to stop her because she cannot stop herself as I said...right before she 'agressively' plants her lips on his....
She was like "Bruh come fast because I'm about to literally inhale this dude's tongue"

Meanwhile bro was having a brain stroke from jealousy and anger behind her. Thankfully he escaped with mild brain damage, that just left him a bit more of a cuckold than he was before.
 

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She was like "Bruh come fast because I'm about to literally inhale this dude's tongue"

Meanwhile bro was having a brain stroke from jealousy and anger behind her. Thankfully he escaped with mild brain damage, that just left him a bit more of a cuckold than he was before.
I mean I got what the dev was going for. She apparently is pleading for him to step in at that point (because she has no fucking self control as you say, she was about devour him) and our dim MC thinks she is asking for permission...

It still doesn't change what is and was though in that at that point, she was gone...gimme the big D baldy.
 

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There is no choice to allow this or not, it happens automatically (I'm still damn sure there used to be a choice for the kiss originally, not there now though). There is only stage 1 blowjob, stage 2 sex.
That is the thing about this story that is, to me, the most frustrating, the reader doesn't really have any choices. At least I was able to stop it from going any further on the jealousy date. (Yeah, I remember that you can opt out of Jamie LI)
 

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I understand, even in act 1 Lacey self chastised plenty, especially towards the end.
I am one of the few that actually defends that as a genuine concern.
This is why I want her to keep going and give us all the details of her past, they are needed for her character growth.

MC defends the jealousy date until the end, Lacey does actually say that it does not look good.

Even then, I understand the self reflection, but consequences cannot be tied only to that.
Where are the reactions of the world that compensate the actions of the characters?

Example: Why is the pimp called when MC is not alright instead of Anna when she has constantly betrayed Lacey and hurt MC thanks to her "games"?

And even after all what happens in act 2 everyone is comfortable in bringing her to the HONEYMOON? She is the one that worked against that marriage the most, did more damage than Jared and yet...

Even if we accept that Lacey would let anything go because she is used to her abusive behaviour and MC will follow like a lap dog, why isn't Anna pissed off?
Has she become a shit person that is now fine with MC being hurt because it fits with her agenda?

But let's go back to Lacey so we can understand how invonsistent the whole consequence thing is.
She gets more shit for going in the bathroom with fucking micro dick Lorenzo than the Damian stuff.
This cannot be it, it doesn't make any sense at all.

Veronica is a driven woman and a supposedly great professional, who in their right mind would trust Lacey after what she has done? I would never stick my neck out for a person in my team that is unreliable, my investment could go to waste and make me look back to upper management.
She is not even disappointed in Lacey.

Dress like a slut for other men? All the dresses and bikinis are still around EVEN ON MC SPECIAL WEEKEND.

I won't go into Veronica or Christine (which at least has half of a redemption arc) but you know that neither of them faced any consequences.

Ok that's it, but I hope you get what I mean when I say there is a severe lack of consequences, even emotional that pervade this game for some reason.
I get what everyone is saying about consequences, and while i agree, my issue with consequences is, that should any of them receive even a fraction of what they deserve the game would come to a very quick end or loose all it’s tension and just turn into a harem simulator
 
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I mean I got what the dev was going for. She apparently is pleading for him to step in at that point (because she has no fucking self control as you say, she was about devour him) and our dim MC thinks she is asking for permission...

It still doesn't change what is and was though in that at that point, she was gone...gimme the big D baldy.
She was pleading for the MC to step in because she had gotten what she wanted.
She was at the height of horniness, wanted the MC to no longer delay, take her away and then ravish her

MC due to his own hang-ups, and because of it misreading the situation, pushed her further.
She then just rolls with and decides to turn it into a teaching moment/redo of the damian snafu
 

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I get what everyone is saying about consequences, and while i agree, my issue with consequences is, that should any of them receive even a fraction of what they deserve the game would come to a very quick end or loose all it’s tension and just turn into a harem simulator
Well this is a very true point , but I'd at least like to see arguments properly play out , rather than a brief back and forth then the MC apologises then it gets sweeped under the rug

That and I would like to see the LI's at least put the MC within the top 3 of there priorities as it feels like he's rock bottom on them all , they all talk a good talk but none of them ever back it up

I genuinely don't know how that friend group hasn't broken him , it just feels like the most toxic environment possible
 

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Wouldn't it be funny to find out that Mia is right about Lorenzo and Lacey is not? After all, she only knew dick nicknames, not faces or names.
And when Lorenzo gets shy about the MC's dick question, it would be for something like ... him being made fun of because no girl can handle his size (except Lacey), and he stayed a virgin because of it.
The MC assumes that he's the tiny pecker, though it's not confirmed. But what would be the point of a character like this be anyway? Why is he still around if not to shock an unguarded MC down the road.
 
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I get what everyone is saying about consequences, and while i agree, my issue with consequences is, that should any of them receive even a fraction of what they deserve the game would come to a very quick end or loose all it’s tension and just turn into a harem simulator
It really depends on how it is handled. As an example, he could go for a divorce or an annulment of the marriage, and Lacey had to be the one to put effort to keep the relationship alive, meanwhile the rest of the girls are feed up of Lacey fuck ups and decide that MC will be better with them on the long run, even if he where to suffer the pain of the separation at first, and go for the steal. Anything, anything is better than this.

Because we all know that woman are angelic beings capable of no wrong, evil nor they are gross, they dont fart, and if they do it smells like rainbow and unicorns, right? right?
 

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Now she is rationalizing what happened in the video, sure, but she is doing so by reconciling it with her past.

It fits with what happens with Damian too: "men like to be complimented" she acts like a seasoned veteran out to get what she wants.

Not a rationalization then, but a further glimpse of her real past.

We know this is not true else she would have controlled the use also during the 3 weeks when Lacey was about to die, the pimp left her alone often.
Correct me if I am wrong, do you mean that Lacey in the deepfake video is closer to how she was in the college ?
Its just that Mia`s reaction is weird here.

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So I don't know about this being glimpse in to the real past. Mia didn`t like that, which is unusual because she literally likes everything sexual to do with Lacey, even when Evan assaulted her in the showers.

I understand, even in act 1 Lacey self chastised plenty, especially towards the end.
I am one of the few that actually defends that as a genuine concern.
This is why I want her to keep going and give us all the details of her past, they are needed for her character growth.
I am 100% with you here. I am sure that there are still few revelations waiting for us in the college days. And I agree that she needs to come clean with everything. No matter how ugly things may be, constantly lying is destroying her marriage.
 

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She was pleading for the MC to step in because she had gotten what she wanted.
She was at the height of horniness, wanted the MC to no longer delay, take her away and then ravish her

MC due to his own hang-ups, and because of it misreading the situation, pushed her further.
She then just rolls with and decides to turn it into a teaching moment/redo of the damian snafu
"pushed"...

She just got momentarily startled because she wasn't expecting a go. She was already practically in oral slut mode, that's why she jumps the dude. That wasn't a reluctant smooch because she was "pushed". Baldie was probably feeling violated by the time she was done with him.

Wouldn't it be funny to find out that Mia is right about Lorenzo and Lacey is not? After all, she only knew dick nicknames, not faces or names.
And when Lorenzo gets shy about the MC's dick question, it would be for something like ... him being made fun of because no girl can handle his size (except Lacey), and he stayed a virgin because of it.
The MC assumes that he's the tiny pecker, though it's not confirmed. But what would be the point of a character like this be anyway? Why is he still around if not to shock an unguarded MC down the road.
He obviously has some role to play, I doubt he got in the company just to be forgotten. Maybe MC catches him with some random female co-worker and starts peeking like a perv to get a dick measurement.
 
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It really depends on how it is handled. As an example, he could go for a divorce or an annulment of the marriage, and Lacey had to be the one to put effort to keep the relationship alive, meanwhile the rest of the girls are feed up of Lacey fuck ups and decide that MC will be better with them on the long run, even if he where to suffer the pain of the separation at first, and go for the steal. Anything, anything is better than this.

Because we all know that woman are angelic beings capable of no wrong, evil nor they are gross, they dont fart, and if they do it smells like rainbow and unicorns, right? right?
On this surely the heartbreak of losing the person you love is easier than the heartbreak of the person you love constantly hurting you , cheating/forcibly cucking you , lying consistently, purposely withholding information from you , generally not giving a fuck about your feelings etc the list goes on and on

Also just gonna leave this here wonder why this feels fimaliar

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Q: Can trauma bond become true love? A: Trauma bonds rarely transform into healthy love because they're built on power imbalance rather than mutual respect. For any chance at transformation, the abuse must completely end, both parties must heal individually, and entirely new relationship patterns must form - well shit and yes I know it's a game but still
 
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