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I reread my post and it dawned on me – All these 'punishments' would be perfect for some kind of roleplay between spouses.

Something like this:
H- "Darling, you're such a naughty girl! Let me spank you."
W- "Oh, Honey, I'll be obedient! Can I suck that gentleman off?"

This seems like a farce to me.

And these supposed 'punishments' don't even begin to correspond to the severity of the offense; they're more like rewards. And the most important thing is, why doesn't MC see this and agree to this idiocy?
Yep, like I said before again, the punishment path isn't really punishment its merely being kinky, sure he might have hit her a bit, but compared to her childhood and all its probably a love tap, nothing that really would 'punish' Lacey of anything, merely trying to provide the MC an illusion of control, he get to 'punish her', a mean to help corrupt the MC, and he goes with it because its better than nothing, because he doesn't have any real control over Lacey, I mean the person that get the most hurt on that path is him, he freak out after slapping her, she as I said isn't even flustered by it. So yea she get to be kinky, push further her corrupting of him, in trade he physically express some of his frustrations, and has some vague sense of control over his life back. Ultimately its middle path for both, the one that give both some mild benefit, maybe even more on Lacey's side, compared to the Slut Path which is likely to be more to Lacey's significant benefit, while the Vanilla Path is likely to be more to the MC's significant benefit.

Also as I said many times, the Dev favor Lacey over the MC, so two out of the three paths are favoring Lacey, while the Vanilla Path is likely the only one that is favoring the MC and not really in a satisfying way, and its clearly going to be the most bland of them, I assume all the way to the ending which will likely be shorter and less interesting than the two other paths. If their is any other ending I assume it could be one where Lacey die, but not out of revenge, probably out of some sort of self-sacrifice, that will be unsatisfying for virtually everyone, either characters or players, something to satisfy the 'redemption' type and those that hate her, but ultimately will be a hollow ending which I assume will lead the MC to die himself, this could be related to the Augusta game as I stated before, with the MC going there to meet dead Lacey and they move on thru the tunnel together.
 
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Yea as things are currently the MC isn't yet aligned with the notion of running a porn business, but that is the point, 'yet' see like I also said previously it seem clear their is a process of corruption ongoing with the MC on both the Slut & Punishment paths by Lacey herself, its clear that to some degree its Lacey's desire for her husband to end up more sexually open and flexible. I think that by the time we reach the last Act, which if I heard right might be Act 6, the MC will have ended up corrupted on either Slut & Punishment paths, at which point he'll be open to do that sort of work. Let's be real, with the name of those paths its clear the end goal is for Lacey to turn back into a slut on the Slut Path and the MC accepting that reality. While the end goal for the Punishment Path is more along the lines of her being a 'Sub' and the MC being a 'Dom' if albeit in reality the real power is liable to be in Lacey's hands, she will give the MC control over her sexuality but likely their is going an expectation for him to make use of it on others.

As for the notion Lacey's isn't motivated by sex, really? She cheated pretty eagerly on her husband, it might have been originally to prove a point but she broke every singular rules they established, as it says clearly within the game, even with the drugs it went extremely farther than even the drugs can justify, proving that her satisfaction is clearly of primordial importance to her. With baldy she again pushed the limits, wasn't before her cheating it was established that kissing was something supposedly pretty personal to them, YET she still did it with baldy before the MC could have a say to restrain her, this time completely without the drugs. Also when she says that she'd be willing to fuck anyone the MC tell her, it doesn't come off as something said in hesitation, it comes off again very direct and clearly has unrestrained, which isn't the way someone that would just do it for their partner would talk about it.

Going back to her stupid plan, its not the sort of plan someone come up with which isn't pretty much willing to fuck anyone around that they'd like. Yea she took the drugs, but was it because she feared not enjoying it or because she didn't want to experience the guilt? She said she saw the MCs messages, so she was clearly aware he didn't want her to do it, he begged her, and yet she did it, the drug wasn't to make it easier to have sex with someone else, it was to make it easier to overcome the guilt she felt at doing it against her husband's agreement.

Again the problem wasn't having sex with someone else, that she was eagerly willing to do, it was about doing it without approval by the MC. Oh and when cheated on her husband she wasn't clearly that out of her mind, she was able to identify the guy she was fucking, remember to film it, told him her husband's name, and responded to him, so clearly the ketamine didn't affect her that much, it merely dulled the bad feelings she might have experienced at cheating on her husband, but the sex she was all up for it.

So stop deluding yourself in thinking that she didn't want to have sex with other people, its clear she is a slut at heart and the only reason she stopped being a slut was because of her husband, and she eagerly want to return to this so she has been corrupting him, trying to convince him that its alright for her to be intimate with others so that she can go back to be doing it, so she can get everything, the man that she love and all the slutty sex that she wants. Sure she isn't all too cool to to have to also share him, but that is the inevitable price she discovered she has to pay because she went too far while the MC wasn't up for it and she nearly lost him, so all she did after the cheating was to shift to a slower approach, and letting the MC sleep around so he could feel better.
You keep using the word clearly to describe things that are not clear.

I am not saying that Lacey hasn't done terrible things to the MC. She has lied to him. She has cheated on him. And depending on how cheating is defined she could have cheated quite a bit.

However, I don't think there is anything that even remotely points to the MC and his group becoming a porn empire. Even if I accept that Lacey wants to sleep with others outside of the MC (which I still don't think there is in game reason for this), She still has shown nothing to indicate she is interested in doing porn. There is even less reason to think that the MC, Mia, and Anna would want to take part in this. I would even say that the material points more towards these three actively against the idea of this.

Per the dev, we still have 4 acts coming. Barty and the porn empire stuff is the antagonist right now. I think the Barty storyline will be resolved soon. I believe that after Barty there will be at least one more antagonist before the game is over and the porn stuff will be over and done with.
I'm leaning right now that the final antagonist to this story will be Lacey's parents. And either directly after her parents story finishes or while it is going on the topic of Lacey's Other Side will be shown as well.
 
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You keep using the word clearly to describe things that are not clear.

I am not saying that Lacey hasn't done terrible things to the MC. She has lied to him. She has cheated on him. And depending on how cheating is defined she could have cheated quite a bit.

However, I don't think there is anything that even remotely points to the MC and his group becoming a porn empire. Even if I accept that Lacey wants to sleep with others outside of the MC (which I still don't think there is in game reason for this), She still has shown nothing to indicate she is interested in doing porn. There is even less reason to think that the MC, Mia, and Anna would want to take part in this. I would even say that the material points more towards these three actively against the idea of this.

Per the dev, we still have 4 acts coming. Barty and the porn empire stuff is the protagonist right now. I think the Barty storyline will be resolved soon. I believe that after Barty there will be at least one more protagonist before the game is over and the porn stuff will be over and done with.
I'm leaning right now that the final protagonist to this story will be Lacey's parents. And either directly after her parents story finishes or while it is going on the topic of Lacey's Other Side will be shown as well.
Protagonist is the MC. What you are meaning called Antagonist.
 
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You keep using the word clearly to describe things that are not clear.

I am not saying that Lacey hasn't done terrible things to the MC. She has lied to him. She has cheated on him. And depending on how cheating is defined she could have cheated quite a bit.

However, I don't think there is anything that even remotely points to the MC and his group becoming a porn empire. Even if I accept that Lacey wants to sleep with others outside of the MC (which I still don't think there is in game reason for this), She still has shown nothing to indicate she is interested in doing porn. There is even less reason to think that the MC, Mia, and Anna would want to take part in this. I would even say that the material points more towards these three actively against the idea of this.

Per the dev, we still have 4 acts coming. Barty and the porn empire stuff is the antagonist right now. I think the Barty storyline will be resolved soon. I believe that after Barty there will be at least one more antagonist before the game is over and the porn stuff will be over and done with.
I'm leaning right now that the final antagonist to this story will be Lacey's parents. And either directly after her parents story finishes or while it is going on the topic of Lacey's Other Side will be shown as well.
Wait no reason to think Mia would be interested in a job involved in porn? She who loved to arrange for Lacey to be fucked by guys and watch? I am pretty sure if it seemed like the MC would be willing to let it happen she'd be all up either film or direct it. As for Anna sure, she wouldn't directly be involved, but helping the MC run such a business? I doubt it would be an issue for her. As for Lacey for the reason I'd say she might be up for doing porn is it would be a mean to an end, a way to fuck around with other people and be profitable at the same time, maybe right now she isn't thinking of it but when she'll be aware of the entire plot to turn her into a porn actress? It will enter her awareness as an option and on the Slut Path it would likely be a constructive use of her sluttyness, also you say their is no indication... missed the whole Jared thing? She went around entertaining people at his parties while in skimpy outfits, and you think she'd have any issues with porn, which is just a step up? Again the only problem she had with what she was doing for Jared is getting caught, she showed zero issues with actually doing it and she willingly went along with it on the flimsiest of excuses, so yea I am 100% sure that once the notion of doing porn come up and if by that point she corrupted the MC enough that he'd be willing to let her do it, she'd be all in for doing it.

As for Lacey's parents being the last antagonists, why? At this point they would be lackluster antagonists, if they had to be antagonists in the story they should have been the first ones, its not like they are important enough on the greater scale of things for them to be a threat, they are at best an annoyance, Lacey is a grown up, what the Hell could they even do? Nothing. If they appear they'd be minor side antagonists to be discarded entirely within an act, their impact on Lacey's life specifically might have been great, but their impact on an entire group of people would be non-existent, they'd make an appearance, make a fuss, than get thrown aside in a snap, I can't imagine how they'd offer an obstacle to overcome.
 
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Wait no reason to think Mia would be interested in a job involved in porn? She who loved to arrange for Lacey to be fucked by guys and watch? I am pretty sure if it seemed like the MC would be willing to let it happen she'd be all up either film or direct it. As for Anna sure, she wouldn't directly be involved, but helping the MC run such a business? I doubt it would be an issue for her. As for Lacey for the reason I'd say she might be up for doing porn is it would be a mean to an end, a way to fuck around with other people and be profitable at the same time, maybe right now she isn't thinking of it but when she'll be aware of the entire plot to turn her into a porn actress? It will enter her awareness as an option and on the Slut Path it would likely be a constructive use of her sluttyness, also you say their is no indication... missed the whole Jared thing? She went around entertaining people at his parties while in skimpy outfits, and you think she'd have any issues with porn, which is just a step up? Again the only problem she had with what she was doing for Jared is getting caught, she showed zero issues with actually doing it and she willingly went along with it on the flimsiest of excuses, so yea I am 100% sure that once the notion of doing porn come up and if by that point she corrupted the MC enough that he'd be willing to let her do it, she'd be all in for doing it.
Agree to disagree.
I'm 100% sure there will be no porn empire for the MC gang. You are 100% sure there will be. So we will just have to wait and see.

As for Lacey's parents being the last antagonists, why? At this point they would be lackluster antagonists, if they had to be antagonists in the story they should have been the first ones, its not like they are important enough on the greater scale of things for them to be a threat, they are at best an annoyance, Lacey is a grown up, what the Hell could they even do? Nothing. If they appear they'd be minor side antagonists to be discarded entirely within an act, their impact on Lacey's life specifically might have been great, but their impact on an entire group of people would be non-existent, they'd make an appearance, make a fuss, than get thrown aside in a snap, I can't imagine how they'd offer an obstacle to overcome.
Her childhood abuse is one thing we have not seen addressed in the game. It is one of the key factors that got them to this point and before this story is over it will be addressed.
Besides the conversations we've had here about the theories of Lacey's dad being involved with Barty's business. I do think that there will come a point where it will come up. It's to important a moment in the back story to just leave ignored.
It makes sense to me that the reason it has not been talked about much to this point is because Prof is saving that confrontation for later.

In the end this game is about struggling with mental health and finding a way to repair the wounds it causes. And it seems logical to me that the final hurdle someone must jump would be the original cause of it all.
 
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Agree to disagree.
I'm 100% sure there will be no porn empire for the MC gang. You are 100% sure there will be. So we will just have to wait and see.

Her childhood abuse is one thing we have not seen addressed in the game. It is one of the key factors that got them to this point and before this story is over it will be addressed.
Besides the conversations we've had here about the theories of Lacey's dad being involved with Barty's business. I do think that there will come a point where it will come up. It's to important a moment in the back story to just leave ignored.
It makes sense to me that the reason it has not been talked about much to this point is because Prof is saving that confrontation for later.

In the end this game is about struggling with mental health and finding a way to repair the wounds it causes. And it seems logical to me that the final hurdle someone must jump would be the original cause of it all.
I have thought about the possibility that the father is involved in that porn business... ironically at the same time I thought up the idea that they might get control of the porn business that the bad guys are building up, again because its literally part of the end plot of the game Always Fan, but considering we haven't seen with the currently unidentified individual talk about her in a way that might hint to a existing relationship between them and Lacey, I had put that idea aside. At this point I feel the only way to go is pretty much up, outside of stooges like Barty & Will, I feel anyone left to be discovered would likely to be a wealthy individual backing their endeavor, and I didn't get the feeling that Lacey came from big money.

Also at this point the notion that confronting her parents would be a game changer for her is ridiculous, like I said if any such confrontation were to happen it wouldn't change Lacey it would be a minor confrontation that wouldn't lead to anything changing for her, the damage is done, it would be an annoyance they have to quickly overcome, nothing more. Yet again, this game isn't about repairing wounds, its about Love & Jealousy, to keep the first and to overcome the second. You are wanting to find some deeper more therapeutic notion behind the story, but at no point have we seen any indications of that. Like I said before, we don't see Lacey ever changing for the 'better', all we see is the MC getting corrupted and changed to fit Lacey's mindset. Any notion this game is about 'redemption' for Lacey doesn't make sense, she has shown no progress toward changing how she really thinks, she might acknowledge what she is but little more.

To me the idea behind this game isn't the typical NTR of: the girl get corrupted -> lose the girl. I feel the idea is instead, what if the girl was already corrupted, however she had chosen to stick with the MC rather than abandon him. The corrupted girl aspire to corrupt the MC so he'll support her depravity and even possibly join in. I am even possibly suspecting Lacey herself might be involved in the plot against herself, a bit like Lydia in Fetish Locator, here she secretly is manipulating those that are trying to 'corrupt' her, playing along while pretending she isn't, all so that she could push the MC's corruption. Many people said ketamine doesn't work like the game pretend it does, what if its exactly the case, Lacey has been using the ketamine as an excuse to pretend she wasn't in control of her actions all along, but she is secretly the mastermind of all of it, sure she might have went too hard with what happened with Damian and fucked up big time, being involved or even the mastermind doesn't mean she is foolproof in her planning, which is why she shifted her approach to a slower form of corruption.

Hell she possibly even is 'The Monster' plotting against that plot and her minions too, having given herself a sort of venue to manipulate the MC and prevent her pawns from ever fucking things up that badly again, since you'll notice the whole 'The Monster' thing came after she cheated with Damian, she might have went along with what he said because she didn't want to reveal she wasn't really that affected by the ketamine. Like the MC said, she chose him in minutes, as if she already had chosen him ahead of time, so maybe he was one of her pawns that went too far and afterward required a ton of damage control. So yea she created 'The Monster' alter ego to counter her own minions and prevent them from messing with her husband too much.
 

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Also at this point the notion that confronting her parents would be a game changer for her is ridiculous, like I said if any such confrontation were to happen it wouldn't change Lacey it would be a minor confrontation that wouldn't lead to anything changing for her, the damage is done, it would be an annoyance they have to quickly overcome, nothing more.
I'm not sure where you got the game changer or changing her from what I said...

Yet again, this game isn't about repairing wounds
That was almost a direct quote from the dev explaining the game.

From the dev:
" What if the two main characters are struggling with mental health issues and are trying to find a way to repair the damage of the past? How does a person cope with being forced to face something uncomfortable that really hurts? How does a person actually get over that pain? What if it's a game that doesn't punish the MC for being in multiple relationships as part of that healing process? What if the whole concept of a girl getting dicked down and becoming a mindless sex slave wasn't real? Because it fucking isn't. NTR games are so god damn dumb. "

Also from another description the dev made of the game:
" And at its heart, that's what this game is; a love story that tackles how awful jealousy can be both to the person who suffers from it and how even those around them suffer too. "
 

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She went around entertaining people at his parties while in skimpy outfits, and you think she'd have any issues with porn, which is just a step up? Again the only problem she had with what she was doing for Jared is getting caught, she showed zero issues with actually doing it and she willingly went along with it on the flimsiest of excuses
I don't remember exact circumstances, but someone told MC during the story, that Lacey's participation in all those parties were not as fun as you think. She did not enjoyed herself during those parties.

Again it might be a lie as many other words spoken, but we don't know. Only future will tell i guess.

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Of course as I said before it could be a lie from Mia. But it looked quite sincere for me.
 

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I don't remember exact circumstances, but someone told MC during the story, that Lacey's participation in all those parties were not as fun as you think. She did not enjoyed herself during those parties.

Again it might be a lie as many other words spoken, but we don't know. Only future will tell i guess.

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Of course as I said before it could be a lie from Mia. But it looked quite sincere for me.
Well what that really tell us is the Lacey found those parties boring, not that she didn't like what she was doing per say, she could have very much found them boring because they were if anything too tame for her. Also as you say, you have to trust that Mia is saying the truth, however also Lacey, because its obvious that Mia wasn't at those parties the way she explain, so she likely merely heard from Lacey, Mia seem to expect its the full truth, but is it really? Either way, it doesn't mean Lacey's wouldn't have done more under different circumstances.

I'm not sure where you got the game changer or changing her from what I said...

That was almost a direct quote from the dev explaining the game.

From the dev:
" What if the two main characters are struggling with mental health issues and are trying to find a way to repair the damage of the past? How does a person cope with being forced to face something uncomfortable that really hurts? How does a person actually get over that pain? What if it's a game that doesn't punish the MC for being in multiple relationships as part of that healing process? What if the whole concept of a girl getting dicked down and becoming a mindless sex slave wasn't real? Because it fucking isn't. NTR games are so god damn dumb. "

Also from another description the dev made of the game:
" And at its heart, that's what this game is; a love story that tackles how awful jealousy can be both to the person who suffers from it and how even those around them suffer too. "
Yea the Dev say 'repair the damage of the past', but its only on some limited aspect, you can already tell what 'repair the damage of the past' is for this story, its not about her parents, its about the two of them, the damage she did to him is mostly what its about, when she left, as well as the damage it did to him when the knowledge of her College years was discovered, as well as her various actions since they married that she kept secret. All things already discussed within the game. It never says that the healing process is for Lacey, but the MC.

Their is no undoing what was done to Lacey or what she did to herself, their is nothing inherently wrong with her being a slut, the problem is possibly any brain damage due to the drugs, but that is not something you can cure. As for the parents, confronting them wouldn't change anything, if she can get some vengeance she could experience some relief, but that is it, I really don't get what sort of magical healing you think her confronting her parents would bring, I have issues with my parents, not Lacey bad, but I can tell their is nothing giving them a real piece of my mind could change, if you think otherwise you clearly never had real issues with your parents. See their is a significant difference between having a misunderstanding, and being abused or neglected, the first can be solved by such a confrontation, the second isn't something that can be solved, nor healed by any actions involving those that did said actions, even therapy doesn't help all that much, you can experience relief from talking about it somewhat, it might help understand and mitigate the damage done, allowing you to figure how it affected your mind & personality and how to counter act those changes, but it require you wanting to change to begin with, maybe if the change is black and white it might help, but in Lacey's case she is a slut, being a slut isn't inherently right or wrong, the narcissism would be more of a problem she might fix, beyond that the reality is the Pre-College Lacey is effectively dead, much of the issues she had due to her parents, she already sorta fixed, her issues with intimacy & sex for example, all that is already gone.
 
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I don't remember exact circumstances, but someone told MC during the story, that Lacey's participation in all those parties were not as fun as you think. She did not enjoyed herself during those parties.

Again it might be a lie as many other words spoken, but we don't know. Only future will tell i guess.

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Of course as I said before it could be a lie from Mia. But it looked quite sincere for me.
Mia wasn't there....

So she is just relaying what Lacey told her./..so take that however you will ;)

Just like, Mia wasn't there when Barty propositioned her.....but Mia tells it how it is regardless....from what Lacey herself tells her.....

Two things to remember here, that are important. Up to the Kitchen K incident, Mia is a conspirator with Lacey and will always defend her and two, Lacey is a known, factual compulsive liar when it comes to anything that might make her look bad.

I'll leave that there.
 

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Wait no reason to think Mia would be interested in a job involved in porn? She who loved to arrange for Lacey to be fucked by guys and watch? I am pretty sure if it seemed like the MC would be willing to let it happen she'd be all up either film or direct it. As for Anna sure, she wouldn't directly be involved, but helping the MC run such a business? I doubt it would be an issue for her. As for Lacey for the reason I'd say she might be up for doing porn is it would be a mean to an end, a way to fuck around with other people and be profitable at the same time, maybe right now she isn't thinking of it but when she'll be aware of the entire plot to turn her into a porn actress? It will enter her awareness as an option and on the Slut Path it would likely be a constructive use of her sluttyness, also you say their is no indication... missed the whole Jared thing? She went around entertaining people at his parties while in skimpy outfits, and you think she'd have any issues with porn, which is just a step up? Again the only problem she had with what she was doing for Jared is getting caught, she showed zero issues with actually doing it and she willingly went along with it on the flimsiest of excuses, so yea I am 100% sure that once the notion of doing porn come up and if by that point she corrupted the MC enough that he'd be willing to let her do it, she'd be all in for doing it.
This is all pure speculation based on the idea that someone wants to use lacey in porn.
I'll note that this is a character potentially unknown to the protagonists. Why would MC be interested in this? Or Mia, who has problems with men due to childhood trauma. Anna is generally only interested in the MC. I won't mention lacey, because for me, her story is already over; in the future, she's just a bad trigger for MC's actions.
It's a huge stretch to assume blackmail is possible, but filming porn carries a stigma no less than a prison sentence, and it's 99% certain that the protagonists would rather go to the police than agree to blackmail.

However, 1% remains if we assume the complete stupidity of the MC or an unexpectedly idiotic plot twist.
 
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This is all pure speculation based on the idea that someone wants to use lacey in porn.
I'll note that this is a character potentially unknown to the protagonists. Why would MC be interested in this? Or Mia, who has problems with men due to childhood trauma. Anna is generally only interested in the MC. I won't mention lacey, because for me, her story is already over; in the future, she's just a bad trigger for MC's actions.
It's a huge stretch to assume blackmail is possible, but filming porn carries a stigma no less than a prison sentence, and it's 99% certain that the protagonists would rather go to the police than agree to blackmail.

However, 1% remains if we assume the complete stupidity of the MC or an unexpectedly idiotic plot twist.
Yeah, I have a hard time accepting that the MC would consider anything as such. It just isn't supported in his overall character progression. He doesn't want to share Lacey (regardless of how she acts, Lacey has stated she doesn't want to be shared either). He doesn't want to have an open relationship. He doesn't want to even have sexual experiences with the other women, he simply wants a normal marriage without all the drama.

How does that even fit in with the idea that he would be a part of, much less run a porn empire? It makes no sense at all from what the story has setup concerning the MCs character.
 

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Yeah, I have a hard time accepting that the MC would consider anything as such. It just isn't supported in his overall character progression. He doesn't want to share Lacey (regardless of how she acts, Lacey has stated she doesn't want to be shared either). He doesn't want to have an open relationship. He doesn't want to even have sexual experiences with the other women, he simply wants a normal marriage without all the drama.

How does that even fit in with the idea that he would be a part of, much less run a porn empire? It makes no sense at all from what the story has setup concerning the MCs character.
I completely agree with you about what the story has told so far regarding not sharing Lacey, and that Lacey herself doesn't want to, but I'm still worried about what's going to happen in Act 3... The author himself said there will be a threesome,
and for me, that goes against the story, so I hope it will be up to the reader to decide because many (including me) will be disappointed and might even stop reading this visual novel.
We'll see, but I think MC has suffered enough already; it's time things got better for him.
 
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I completely agree with you about what the story has told so far regarding not sharing Lacey, and that Lacey herself doesn't want to, but I'm still worried about what's going to happen in Act 3... The author himself said there will be a threesome,
and for me, that goes against the story, so I hope it will be up to the reader to decide because many (including me) will be disappointed and might even stop reading this visual novel.
We'll see, but I think MC has suffered enough already; it's time things got better for him.
It depends... the fact that something happens doesn't mean it is what the MC wanted or even the result Lacey intended.

Lacey's intent is simply that she loves the MC, this however does not mean her actions will result in such that is good or healthy for the MC. Remember how she commented about how the JD backfired? How the cuck incident didn't go as she intended?

It is entirely possible that the MC gets pushed into yet another "experiment" where Lacey thinks she is "fixing" things when she is only making it worse, after all... that is typical Lacey and we have another "train wreck".

I think that falls well within the story, but what I think falls outside of it is "out of character" intent (porn empire, Lacey malicious intent, MC becoming accepting of all the behavior, etc...) which for the most part, barring inconsistencies have been pretty well established.

So while I predict more "train wrecks" and seriously stupid choices by everyone involved, I don't think (and hope) we don't see major character changes unless it is individual character growth (realization, personal growth, taking responsibility, etc...).

In the end though, who knows... everything could go upside down, but I don't think the current story supports some of the drastic predictions, those will have to have a bit more "foreshadowing" to gain any real traction.
 
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