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which is the reveal that she never loved MC.
This is my only "nitpick" part.

Is that really a reveal?

I did say it in a post previous but it's been obvious for a while she's never loved him. She equates him to a safe space in her life and is using him for that.

She's never known love, not as a child, not growing up and not reaching adulthood. How can she love someone when she's never understood what that is?

Someone else earlier said it better. She came up with this whole story of her attaching herself to a big whale shark or whatever it was (it's been a minute) in a symbiotic relationship except it isn't. She's more like a parasite living off the host but providing no benefit at all.

She's brought nothing to his life except misery and mental health problems. There is no partnership, they are not equals.

Chapter 3 didn't reveal anything, it did clarify a few things though.

Sorry for repeating but i'm gonna throw the disconnect in here again. We all know what the devs plan was. Lacey, MC and his harem. That's not what is happening though.

I don't know if the dev changed his mind along the way and decided to go with a more traditional NTR game instead of the dramatic romance it started as.

Only reason I say that is because after this chapter, there is no . way . at . all the relationship with MC and Lacey will ever work.

Prof is now throwing in conspiracies and all Lacey's ex's.

Things like that would put strain on the strongest relationship. They barely have a relationship at all. They certainly don't have the united front needed to survive groups of people threatening their relationship.

She doesn't even have basic respect for the MC to build any sort of love onto.

They don't even have the backing of a strong friend group.

With the corner the prof has wrote the story into, even with my brain full of bullshit, I cannot see how prof intends to get from this absolute clusterfuck abomination of a marriage to the place he originally intended to take it.

Unless " a Wizard did it" is a legit excuse.


The one thing that shall be my hill to die on ..... well, not die but i'd risk a slight bruise as long is it didn't hurt ..... is that Lacey can never love the MC because she doesn't know what love is. The only emotion Lacey is versed in is self pity.
 

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Replying in this way is a mess, I'll try anyway.

You are getting things wrong here, and also making some personal assumptions..... see notes


[Reply] it is never stated "she wanted them to care for her"...just her wanting acknowledgment that they were using her and never cared about her or what she was going threw, there is a big difference between those two. You are just injecting personal perception here.
I am inserting words and dialogue lines from the material, if she did not want emotional attachments or connections, why would she care? So they had sex with her and sex is all she cared about (not for the sex itself but lets not get into that right now), did she ever do any of the things she asks of them or just spread her legs?
It is also stated quite a few times how she actually enjoyed herself, with both Stephen and Lorenzo (with Isaac we talk about connections and most of the description of the sex was gruesome).

If you do not care about them as she proudly stated often (Isaac excluded) why would they care about her? Do you see the problem here? Or it was supposed to be a one way street like with MC?


[Reply] agreed, but this is another example of mia not being on the same page as lacey back in those days (there are earlier examples of how both percieved things very differently that whole junior year) and just being "nicer than the others" is very different than treating her nicely. In fact, it is never stated her treated her badly, just that they both had very different views of what their time together ment individually.
I quoted both Mia AND Lacey, and I agree Mia and Lacey do have quite different recounts of the past, Mia looking at what was happening from the outside but not asking what was happening on the inside.

[Reply] you are getting things wrong here.i don't recall it ever being stated mia never saw her use k at all during that period (unless it is and i missed it) In fact in earlier chapters it is confirmed she started using alcohol and k before even before her junior year, and junior year is when stephen happened, so naturally she was using during this time....
This is an excerpt from the discussion about stephen after he took her virginity:
M "So, I didn't even know she was on that stuff at first."
M "I can't really tell you when that started or how much she was doing."
M "I know when she started partying all the time she was taking a LOT."

And there is no indication or suggestion that Mia saw Stephen take any, while living there.
She gets aware later, at an undisclosed time, closer to phase 3.


[Reply] Again, it is never stated that she "yearned for him to ask her out" just that he didn't care about her, and if he did he would have done those things. You are just injecting personal perception here.
No, if Lacey did not care, why should they care? Again, does it have to be a one way street? If your answer is yes then ok I agree with you.
Do you think they owe her something because they had sex?

This is a very Lacey centric view, she might think so, but why should they?

So either she wanted those things or why would she feel entitled to them?

You see how it is a narrative tool?

How this:
M "Everyone else demands closure from you."
M "It was your turn to get the closure you needed."
M "You needed to hear what they really thought of you back then."

Makes little sense?


[Reply] this is kinda true, but you are percieving things different than what the story states.
she stated they did have a connection of sorts, and she did care for him/ment something to her in a weird twisted way, but never loved him. Her wanting to leave with him was stated to be her kinda giving up thinking this is the best it would get for her/all she was ever going to be in her broken state at that moment.
No it was to leave the past behind and never have to look back, MC included.

L "Because..."
L "A small part of me..."
L "Was tempted to go with him."
L "And start a new life."
MC "Without me?"
L "Without you."

IS "I think part of you wanted to go with me."
IS "To start a whole new life and leave your shitty past behind you."
IS "That's why you kept things going for as long as you did."
IS "You wanted a taste of that future."
IS "A future that didn't have your fucked up childhood in it."
IS "A future that didn't have that boy you say you loved in it."
IS "So, you could forget it all."
L "For a very short time, I was tempted."
L "A part of me did want to leave everything behind."

I never stated that Lacey loved Isaac, I do not knowwhy you are twisting my post ;), she is fully aware at the start that he sort of used her, but their connection was genuine, extremely unhealthy but genuine.

L "We had a shared bond."
L "Two people who didn't know where they belonged and were trying to figure their lives out."
L "And we were... intimate with each other... quite a bit." (but wasn't the sex extremely bad? cit. act 1 / 2 / 3 + red bra)
L "Something like that naturally led to a connection of sorts between us."
L "Not a healthy one."

And look I get it, it could be that she is trying to have a moment to have closure on people that in her mind hurt her, but she was hurting herself they were just instrunents.

Or since they all wanted closure or reconnect with her she wants to have her own, but why she would want her own closure, did they mean anything? Or as it is explained in the burning they just represent a period of her college life, but it would be me making assumptions and I am all about the material! :)
 
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This is my only "nitpick" part.

Is that really a reveal?

I did say it in a post previous but it's been obvious for a while she's never loved him. She equates him to a safe space in her life and is using him for that.

She's never known love, not as a child, not growing up and not reaching adulthood. How can she love someone when she's never understood what that is?

Someone else earlier said it better. She came up with this whole story of her attaching herself to a big whale shark or whatever it was (it's been a minute) in a symbiotic relationship except it isn't. She's more like a parasite living off the host but providing no benefit at all.

She's brought nothing to his life except misery and mental health problems. There is no partnership, they are not equals.

Chapter 3 didn't reveal anything, it did clarify a few things though.

Sorry for repeating but i'm gonna throw the disconnect in here again. We all know what the devs plan was. Lacey, MC and his harem. That's not what is happening though.

I don't know if the dev changed his mind along the way and decided to go with a more traditional NTR game instead of the dramatic romance it started as.

Only reason I say that is because after this chapter, there is no . way . at . all the relationship with MC and Lacey will ever work.

Prof is now throwing in conspiracies and all Lacey's ex's.

Things like that would put strain on the strongest relationship. They barely have a relationship at all. They certainly don't have the united front needed to survive groups of people threatening their relationship.

She doesn't even have basic respect for the MC to build any sort of love onto.

They don't even have the backing of a strong friend group.

With the corner the prof has wrote the story into, even with my brain full of bullshit, I cannot see how prof intends to get from this absolute clusterfuck abomination of a marriage to the place he originally intended to take it.

Unless " a Wizard did it" is a legit excuse.


The one thing that shall be my hill to die on ..... well, not die but i'd risk a slight bruise as long is it didn't hurt ..... is that Lacey can never love the MC because she doesn't know what love is. The only emotion Lacey is versed in is self pity.
I've already expressed almost everything you've said, with the exception of the moments from Act 3, and I completely agree with you.
Regarding lacey's 'love', it's simple and didn't need Act 3 to prove it.
I can say with 100% certainty, based on lacey actions, that she doesn't love him and never has. The closest explanation is a painful dependency.

Romantic love implies several fundamental elements, and we observe none of these signs in her behavior.

However, the question remains, if the author is so partial to lacey, why did she explicitly point out the obvious deception in the relationship? As a working but rather dumb option, one could assume that the author's use of "love" simply implies affection.

And once again, I repeat, the author will not be able to pull off a good ending after everything he has piled up.
 
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And once again, I repeat, the author will not be able to pull off a good ending after everything he has piled up.
This, right here.

This has been my main point since part 2.

There is no way, and I mean no . way, the dev can pull off what he intended with how he's portrayed these characters.

The whole MC and his harem with Lacey as the instigator, it doesn't work with these characters.

He's pushed the MC into a corner where he either accepts everything is broken and walks away or accepts Lacey will never love him and stays in a dead end relationship that will eventually ruin him.

Therapy works when you want to build yourself up and make the right changes in your life. Therapy doesn't work if you keep yourself in the same situation that caused you to need that therapy to start with. It will be a vicious cycle. Lacey fucks up, MC's mental health suffers, he goes to therapy to feel better, he goes back to Lacey, Lacey fucks up rinse and repeat until death do us part.

The only constant in the MC's life, the only thing he can be sure of and the only thing that reliable about Lacey is she will fuck up. As soon as things calm down, she fucks up. The MC starts to feel better in himself, she fucks up. It happens to be a day ending in Y, she fucks up.

Throwing in conspiracies, people working against him to break them up and his own "friends" working against him ..... the dev has pushed them so far that even with the worlds best suspension of disbelief there is no way that relationship can survive.

It's barely surviving Lacey on her own with her constant fuck ups, it's got no chance of making it through a conspiracy.

In other games when we've seen people working against a relationship, even with the woman being shared with other men (2 I can think of being Deliverance and Exciting Games ... in both of those games, even if you pick the route to have the wife sleep with other men, both women show total devotion and love to their husband and do nothing without their okay). The relationships have all been solid with the only chance of failure being down to player choice and actively ruining the relationships yourself (although, even on the evil paths for Deliverance, the wife is still devoted to her husband. That never changes).

That foundation doesn't exist here. There is no trust between the MC and damn near all of the women. One guy managed to nearly break them up without even touching her. Just by using the most obvious manipulations and telling the MC he's going to fuck his wife he nearly tore them apart. An AI deepfake was enough to send the MC into a spiral because he doesn't trust her.

Now i'm expected to believe the MC and his "angels" will be able to combat a group intent on breaking them up.

I genuinely don't see it and i'm not saying this for effect or to be contrary to the devs intended goals but the way he's portrayed the characters and how flimsy the marriage and friendships are, I genuinely don't see any way for that relationship to survive.

I see exactly what the game has shown me but I just cannot see the devs intended destination. What he wants just doesn't work with these characters.

Don't get me wrong, I am enjoying it for what it is and i'm interested to see how he manages to get the characters to climb out of the pit he's wrote them into. I just don't see any connection between these characters and what the dev plans for them.
 

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This is my only "nitpick" part.

Is that really a reveal?

I did say it in a post previous but it's been obvious for a while she's never loved him. She equates him to a safe space in her life and is using him for that.

She's never known love, not as a child, not growing up and not reaching adulthood. How can she love someone when she's never understood what that is?

Someone else earlier said it better. She came up with this whole story of her attaching herself to a big whale shark or whatever it was (it's been a minute) in a symbiotic relationship except it isn't. She's more like a parasite living off the host but providing no benefit at all.

She's brought nothing to his life except misery and mental health problems. There is no partnership, they are not equals.

Chapter 3 didn't reveal anything, it did clarify a few things though.

Sorry for repeating but i'm gonna throw the disconnect in here again. We all know what the devs plan was. Lacey, MC and his harem. That's not what is happening though.

I don't know if the dev changed his mind along the way and decided to go with a more traditional NTR game instead of the dramatic romance it started as.

Only reason I say that is because after this chapter, there is no . way . at . all the relationship with MC and Lacey will ever work.

Prof is now throwing in conspiracies and all Lacey's ex's.

Things like that would put strain on the strongest relationship. They barely have a relationship at all. They certainly don't have the united front needed to survive groups of people threatening their relationship.

She doesn't even have basic respect for the MC to build any sort of love onto.

They don't even have the backing of a strong friend group.

With the corner the prof has wrote the story into, even with my brain full of bullshit, I cannot see how prof intends to get from this absolute clusterfuck abomination of a marriage to the place he originally intended to take it.

Unless " a Wizard did it" is a legit excuse.


The one thing that shall be my hill to die on ..... well, not die but i'd risk a slight bruise as long is it didn't hurt ..... is that Lacey can never love the MC because she doesn't know what love is. The only emotion Lacey is versed in is self pity.
I agree with all your points, but to me the reveal is not that she didn't love him, or at least that she admits that she was wrong in thinking that what she was feeling was love, the problem is that now we are supposed to believe that she learned to love him when she saw him again after the 4 years.

I always advocate for suspension of disbelief but this is a bit too much, what actually changed for Lacey in 4 years? Did she learn how to love by ghosting people and getting gangbanged? Was red bra the only thing that kept her from love?

So she either admits that she doesn't love him truly, and that her love is still a tainted concept RIGHT NOW, which would completely fit in how she behaves, or I really have an issue with "hey I came back and when you opened the door I discovered that I was healed and I can love now".

How can we accept this when she says that she cannot give anything to him that would be only theirs aside from her heart when it was a sort of a "love at first sight" situation?
This part should have been explored further and probably be pivotal in the act, instead we got Vegas.

Plus if you think about it, it really spoils act 1, there is nothing that MC could actually hold on to, and 90% of what Lacey told him about college and about her feeling is now bs, MC hears about it (in a fucking hotel hall in front of a weird stranger) and says nothing, it doesn't affect the conversations, he doesn't even think about it.

Same as hearing that Isaac pounded Lacey after they had the phone call at the cliffs.

So...yeah I get you but I cannot shake the feeling of missed opportunities and disappointment.



come on, is there no hero able to release a public version ? :LOL:
I get your excitement, but this dev base patreon tier is literally 1 dollar and the public release is usually around a week after the patreon release.

I mean I get that this is f95zone and all, but it feels really crappy to fuck over someone who keeps this kind of pricing and releases.
 
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Hmm... at times I kind of get the feeling that the "reader" of the story has become the MC.


This, right here.

This has been my main point since part 2.

There is no way, and I mean no . way, the dev can pull off what he intended with how he's portrayed these characters.

The whole MC and his harem with Lacey as the instigator, it doesn't work with these characters.

He's pushed the MC into a corner where he either accepts everything is broken and walks away or accepts Lacey will never love him and stays in a dead end relationship that will eventually ruin him.

Therapy works when you want to build yourself up and make the right changes in your life. Therapy doesn't work if you keep yourself in the same situation that caused you to need that therapy to start with. It will be a vicious cycle. Lacey fucks up, MC's mental health suffers, he goes to therapy to feel better, he goes back to Lacey, Lacey fucks up rinse and repeat until death do us part.

The only constant in the MC's life, the only thing he can be sure of and the only thing that reliable about Lacey is she will fuck up. As soon as things calm down, she fucks up. The MC starts to feel better in himself, she fucks up. It happens to be a day ending in Y, she fucks up.

Throwing in conspiracies, people working against him to break them up and his own "friends" working against him ..... the dev has pushed them so far that even with the worlds best suspension of disbelief there is no way that relationship can survive.

It's barely surviving Lacey on her own with her constant fuck ups, it's got no chance of making it through a conspiracy.

In other games when we've seen people working against a relationship, even with the woman being shared with other men (2 I can think of being Deliverance and Exciting Games ... in both of those games, even if you pick the route to have the wife sleep with other men, both women show total devotion and love to their husband and do nothing without their okay). The relationships have all been solid with the only chance of failure being down to player choice and actively ruining the relationships yourself (although, even on the evil paths for Deliverance, the wife is still devoted to her husband. That never changes).

That foundation doesn't exist here. There is no trust between the MC and damn near all of the women. One guy managed to nearly break them up without even touching her. Just by using the most obvious manipulations and telling the MC he's going to fuck his wife he nearly tore them apart. An AI deepfake was enough to send the MC into a spiral because he doesn't trust her.

Now i'm expected to believe the MC and his "angels" will be able to combat a group intent on breaking them up.

I genuinely don't see it and i'm not saying this for effect or to be contrary to the devs intended goals but the way he's portrayed the characters and how flimsy the marriage and friendships are, I genuinely don't see any way for that relationship to survive.

I see exactly what the game has shown me but I just cannot see the devs intended destination. What he wants just doesn't work with these characters.

Don't get me wrong, I am enjoying it for what it is and i'm interested to see how he manages to get the characters to climb out of the pit he's wrote them into. I just don't see any connection between these characters and what the dev plans for them.
Whoa whoa whoa now... you need to stop and consider one thing....

At least Lacey is feeling better about herself, has forgiven herself and is taking control of her own life!

/poke
 

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So...yeah I get you but I cannot shake the feeling of missed opportunities and disappointment.
I agree 100%.

There are far too many things that should have been handled differently and it seems we're all waiting for the MC to take his balls back out of Lacey's purse.

How can we accept this when she says that she cannot give anything to him that would be only theirs aside from her heart when it was a sort of a "love at first sight" situation?
And this, besides the whole not loving him thing, is the reason I can't see the relationship working nor the devs vision for how all this plays out.

The MC has gone all in on a relationship with a girl that he's held in his heart since childhood. Lacey barely has her big toe in the relationship and nothing else.

She would still rather give herself to other men than hold even a small part of herself back for him.

This is also why the whole conspiracy thing is overkill and going too far.

It's not needed.

Lacey is doing a good enough job of destroying their relationship on her own, she doesn't need any assistance. The house is already burning down, it doesn't need petrol throwing on it too.

I think the devs main oversight with adding all these people trying to break them is they aren't doing a bad thing. Splitting them up and forcing him to live for himself is the absolute best thing that could happen to him. Without Lacey around to break the fragile grasp he has left of his sanity, and in the words of a shitty one hit wonder from the 90's, things could only get better.

With the main antagonist of his life out of the way (and yes I do se Lacey as the antagonist here)...



Whoa whoa whoa now... you need to stop and consider one thing....

At least Lacey is feeling better about herself, has forgiven herself and is taking control of her own life!

/poke
I forgot about that.

I'm glad she managed to forgive herself. It must have been so hard on the MC seeing her blame herself for all the times she'd taken a massive dump on his heart.

Knowing she's found it in herself to take control of her life makes it more meaningful and heartfelt when she keeps doing the same mistakes.

She's an angel really.

I was wrong about her. I see the error in my judgement.

I'm so glad the dev gave her that peace of mind.
 

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Replying in this way is a mess, I'll try anyway.



I am inserting words and dialogue lines from the material, if she did not want emotional attachments or connections, why would she care? So they had sex with her and sex is all she cared about (not for the sex itself but lets not get into that right now), did she ever do any of the things she asks of them or just spread her legs?
It is also stated quite a few times how she actually enjoyed herself, with both Stephen and Lorenzo (with Isaac we talk about connections and most of the description of the sex was gruesome).

If you do not care about them as she proudly stated often (Isaac excluded) why would they care about her? Do you see the problem here? Or it was supposed to be a one way street like with MC?




I quoted both Mia AND Lacey, and I agree Mia and Lacey do have quite different recounts of the past, Mia looking at what was happening from the outside but not asking what was happening on the inside.



This is an excerpt from the discussion about stephen after he took her virginity:
M "So, I didn't even know she was on that stuff at first."
M "I can't really tell you when that started or how much she was doing."
M "I know when she started partying all the time she was taking a LOT."

And there is no indication or suggestion that Mia saw Stephen take any, while living there.
She gets aware later, at an undisclosed time, closer to phase 3.




No, if Lacey did not care, why should they care? Again, does it have to be a one way street? If your answer is yes then ok I agree with you.
Do you think they owe her something because they had sex?

This is a very Lacey centric view, she might think so, but why should they?

So either she wanted those things or why would she feel entitled to them?

You see how it is a narrative tool?




No it was to leave the past behind and never have to look back, MC included.

L "Because..."
L "A small part of me..."
L "Was tempted to go with him."
L "And start a new life."
MC "Without me?"
L "Without you."

IS "I think part of you wanted to go with me."
IS "To start a whole new life and leave your shitty past behind you."
IS "That's why you kept things going for as long as you did."
IS "You wanted a taste of that future."
IS "A future that didn't have your fucked up childhood in it."
IS "A future that didn't have that boy you say you loved in it."
IS "So, you could forget it all."
L "For a very short time, I was tempted."
L "A part of me did want to leave everything behind."

I never stated that Lacey loved Isaac, I do not knowwhy you are twisting my post ;), she is fully aware at the start that he sort of used her, but their connection was genuine, extremely unhealthy but genuine.

L "We had a shared bond."
L "Two people who didn't know where they belonged and were trying to figure their lives out."
L "And we were... intimate with each other... quite a bit." (but wasn't the sex extremely bad? cit. act 1 / 2 / 3 + red bra)
L "Something like that naturally led to a connection of sorts between us."
L "Not a healthy one."

And look I get it, it could be that she is trying to have a moment to have closure on people that in her mind hurt her, but she was hurting herself they were just instrunents.

Or since they all wanted closure or reconnect with her she wants to have her own, but why she would want her own closure, did they mean anything? Or as it is explained in the burning they just represent a period of her college life, but it would be me making assumptions and I am all about the material! :)
Yeah it was bad formatting for responding to admittedly, i am rather busy and traveling right now and only have mobile. I agree with some of what you are saying, just don't have the time to pull all the game quotes i would like right now. I will respond to all of this tomorrow, but just wanted to leave you with a small tidbit that i don't think anyone has realized yet....

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Yeah it was bad formatting for responding to admittedly, i am rather busy and traveling right now and only have mobile. I agree with some of what you are saying, just don't have the time to pull all the game quotes i would like right now. I will respond to all of this tomorrow, but just wanted to leave you with a small tidbit that i don't think anyone has realized yet....

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Amazing point! Good job Doomly!

Btw if it is easier just drop me a line on discord.
 
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I know the solution.

Let's recall the classic - 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest'.

best way 'solve' all problems lobotomy for Mc.
Honestly, I was thinking this yesterday (not the movie, but I get the clever reference). I wasn't thinking about
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Then I realized that would be a happy end for the MC and the developer never would give us that. Since this is an NTR story the reader is supposed to feel hurt, cheated, and angry.

Lacey didn't NTR the MC; the developer NTR'd the reader. And he continues to with each update.

Apparently "letting go" means the dastardly MC must let go of his own identity and self-respect and instead become whatever Lacey wants because... ...Lacey is the only one who matters in this kinetic story.

I quoted both Mia AND Lacey, and I agree Mia and Lacey do have quite different recounts of the past, Mia looking at what was happening from the outside but not asking what was happening on the inside.
Hell, at this point even Lacey and Lacey have different recounts of the past (Act 1 v. Act 2 v. Act 3).

I quoted both Mia AND Lacey, and I agree Mia and Lacey do have quite different recounts of the past, Mia looking at what was happening from the outside but not asking what was happening on the inside.
I'm confused; did Lacey ever love the MC? I thought the latest take is that she never loved him? And, as for Anna, after Vegas I'm not convinced she loves him now.... ...and if any of the girls actually love him after what they continue to do to him, I'd hate to be loved.

I thought the developer told us the threesome would be lopsided in favor of the MC (or am I misremembering). Was the Vegas threesome really in the MC's favor?

As for the MC's harem, I guess it's a harem of guys to service Lacey and the MC is the stablemaster. That makes the harem "his", right?

Finally, I'm beginning to think the whole "MC must not leave or harm himself because Lacey would kill herself" is just another hook to keep the MC trapped in this poisonous situation. Lacey the parasite would just move on to the next available host and suck the life out of him instead. Sadly, the girls are "in" on the scam, too.

I know I'm being unreasonable but at this point I'm just searching for one character in this novel (just one) that I can feel good about pulling for. There is not one. Each new act just piles on more characters to loathe.
 
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For those that don't know how this game could have a positive ending, you'd be surprised, their is a trope specifically for that, 'United We Stand', Act 6 the Prof is going to pull some major threat they'll only be able to beat by having the characters overcome their issues and work together to defeat, in the process of doing so they'll get over their differences and learn how to live together happily. Its the only way any positive outcome could be realistically achieved, bring in a last Act trope to magic fix their issues, is it going to feel artificial? Yes, forcing cohesion under duress takes alot of skills to properly be set up and I have significant doubts the Prof have the skills to properly set it up.

Considering all things I suspect its going to be something supernatural, that would be the sort of things that would help overcoming their issues alright, having fucking demons trying to kill them. Otherwise they'll discover the porn empire plot involve far more powerful individuals which have significantly more ways than expected to ruin their lives, possibly like getting everyone of them fired from their jobs and having them blacklisted from work. I'll admit the second is more likely to be the case but the other games by the Prof makes me inclined to expect the first.
 
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