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Just one thing that i pointed out before concerning the "tennis morning incident".
She took the K the day before but she claims that she was under the effects of the K the morning of the "tennins morning incident".
And yet , for the Bastion/Damian incident we know that she was totaly clear headed and fully functionnal 2 hours after she took the K (conversation with Mia).
Is she lying for the "tennis morning incident" ?
 

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I wouldn't say I like this game, but it surely sent me on a trip down memory lane (as I've previously explained). I'm generally interested in personal relationship dynamics and I think the author actually has talent eventhough he (?) is politcally misguided.
The game lacks player agency because the author wants to get his point across. He suffers from the effects of a blue pilled society, but thinks he's morally superiour to people who actually want to fix society. I initially wasn't aware the game includes NTR (which I hate), because I only read story summaries not game tags and the initial premise of overcoming trauma sounded promising. I actually fast forward certain scenes. As for evil witches, I think we should re-introduce burning witches into society again. Why do I play these kind of games? Because I don't want to give support to porn actresses or OF "models". I'd rather support a man, even if he is politcally misguided. As for the quality of games handling personal trauma, I think Leap of Faith for example did a way better job without cheap story- telling shortcuts.
While the Prof definitely idolizes womean a great deal while putting down men, I think that your take is as unhinged as the other poster.
Remember, everyone is an individual before being a man or a woman.

Yes. But it actually worked out for her. What she needed to was to be able to gain the capacity to have sex without thinking of her father raping her. And she did that. She became hate sink, a toy for men who objectify women and Isaac was special because he was so large that even normal sex with him hurt - that's what Isaac did. In the blinding pain she finally freed herself of her past.

Please read my review - I said as much there.

However twisted, her therapy worked. Indeed her fatal flaw is assuming that the medicine that worked for her - a masochist - would work for her sadist of a husband.

This is the keystone to her personality - she thinks pain heals. And the tragedy of it all is that doesn't do that for Gristle.



That's bullshit take both of the have. It's fucking stupid. You are not with someone when you aren't with them - that's unhinged co dependent thinking.



Look, I know making this point on a gooning site it difficult. In fact I probably chose the worst possible place to make the point. But angry rants about women being whores, sluts, cum buckets etc IS NOT NORMAL. Normal people don't do this - it's a kink and it's a kink based in sexism.

If you enjoy calling women those names you probably share thing in common with the MC - a failure to see blatant sexism as sexism.



Until the hulk gets angry. And he is always looking for an opportunity to get angry.



I mean that is one hell of defense because the only time has a chance to pass judgement on someone's marriage jumps at the opportunity when he shames the sex worker in Las Vegas. If he takes every chance the game has given him that a 1 out 1 record.



They aren't the scapegoat - Lacey gets all the abuse.



The air is not clear. You are mistaken. You are ignoring the MC's sexist statements or explaining them away in some way. The air is very dirty right now.




She has always been sweet and caring. She sometimes provokes the MC to get him to abuse her but she does that she believes it would help the MC.
You have clearly not read the novel with attention or you simply are so blinded by your world view (or guilt) that you are unable to form a balanced and logical opinion about it.

And btw, it is Lacey that hints the couple stuff.
If your takes are always on this level, I hope you do not mind if I do not answer further as I dislike silly gender wars.

But I honestly wish you healing and self forgiveness.
I am not being sarcastic.

Just one thing that i pointed out before concerning the "tennis morning incident".
She took the K the day before but she claims that she was under the effects of the K the morning of the "tennins morning incident".
And yet , for the Bastion/Damian incident we know that she was totaly clear headed and fully functionnal 2 hours after she took the K (conversation with Mia).
Is she lying for the "tennins morning incident" ?
So this was a point I just made, be aware that depending on the amount of K taken, some effects can last quite a bit even the day after.

Now with Bastion we see that she is not disassociated, just high, so she might have taken less.

Honestly drugs are written in a weird way in this novel, so you need to take the whole yhing with a grain of salt.

I think the other side fits much better, but as I do not have my usual proof in the material, you need to consider this as my personal speculation.
 
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Okay, that made me laugh out loud, well done - even if the last part of your final sentence was so generic it could have been written by AI. And thanks for making my point for me I guess?

random user: no the MC isn't a misogynist, the wife is just evil witch

WannabeShady: Um, I'm a misogynist and I like this game (not because I'm a cuck - you didn't notice that did you)
Cuckery is actually really interesting from a hierarchy standpoint. As a right winger who thinks that the Enlightenment era was too progressive and the beginning of the end of stable societies (because they thought it is worth understanding the female thought process and it is worth listening to what females have to say, also made men pay for women getting knocked up and abolished death sentences for child murder (=abortion), I think it is hilarious that a leftist makes a game proving societal hierarchies do actually exist and will always exist. The Chad-type (Captain SaveAHoe), who is at the top of the cooperate ladder (provider) and absolutly buffed (protector), actually wins over all the females, proving that all women are shallow as fuck. Also the fat guy and small dick guy lose and the 304 (Lacey) wins (bet you there's no way to leave and get a happy ending), proving we live in a matriarchy. What bothers me is the blue pilled theory that a Captain SaveAHoe type is a Chad type (look at typical leftist gatherings). Other than that, I love me some leftist who is so caught up in his own blue pilled ass, he actually unwillingly confirms every right wing theory.

Edit.: It's also hilarious that it is implied that men work harder at universities and women are heavily benefitted (sleeping with 9 profs) while never being punished for misbehaviour. The ultimate simp simulator. That whole system the author loves so much...I want to burn it down to the ground.
 

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Remember, everyone is an individual before being a man or a woman.
That's not true when it comes to gendered insults - gendered insults reduce someone to a gender. Quick test - man or woman

revolting cock
slut
cum bucket
whore
bitch
skank

If you are like me you only identified the first as an insult that could be attached to a man. And yet the MC loves to apply those terms to his wife. Because he likes degrading her.

You have clearly not read the novel with attention or you simply are so blinded by your world view (or guilt) that you are unable to form a balanced and logical opinion about it.
That's an easy way to dismiss my POV isn't it? But I challenge you to read my posts and conclude that's not read the novel closely.
And btw, it is Lacey that hints the couple stuff.
In co dependency both partners are ill.

But I honestly wish you healing and self forgiveness.
I am not being sarcastic.
Likewise, I hope you get past your internalized misogyny and come to understand that you can't be neutral in a war zone. I mean we saw how that worked out for Lacey . . . . I'm sorry to say you strike me as someone who will need to face some unpleasant truths before you begin to heal but I hope you make it through that process. Good luck to you. I am not being sarcastic :)

It would be nice if you responded to my points with substantive rebuttal but if all you can manage is "you haven't read the novel closely and I don't like talking about gender while talking about sex" I guess that I will need to accept that.
 

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okay, two points on the recent discussion.

1. show dialogue where it clearly states verionica's connections is the monster. as far i recall reading, it sounded like he could be. but nothing saying he is. so im wondering if i missed a clear statement of fact. cause one of you out there stated it like it was fact.

2. i posited that MC could be the monster, using the same line "when do i get to be the monster" as a possible foreshadowing, especially as it came before the monsters first appearance(to my recollection at that time and still now). furthermore, i noted his disscociative problems and tech skills as well as physical and emotional proximity to all the girls involved would give him the ability to track and monitor them. the how isnt even hard, i have an app on my phone that that gives me time delayed notifications called a calender. somone with a lil tech know how could easily hack their own phone and leave themselves messages to communicate with their other personality. its actually a very common literary device in stories where a character has dissociative disorders that the main personality is not aware of the others, and the protector personality is well aware of the main, goes out of their way to protect them, as well as communicate with them. My favorie example is a pscyh episode where a dude is being haunted by a female ghost, turns out one dissociative personality is a women and she is trying to warn him about their more dangerous personality. all sorts of shenanigans in that episode but im starting to stray. just saying, its normal in stories for a main personality to not know about the others, and the others to do all sorts of shit and even make contact through varied means to guide or protect the main from themselves and others.

it may not be where the story is headed, but there is as much evidence making it possible as any other saying "this" or "that" character is the monster.
There's so many theories, but I want to jump in on the whole MC is the Monster thing and say I fully support this hypothesis - my evidence (and sorry if this has been pointed out already).

When the AI video is shown, the monster tells the MC to go directly to Christine. This (at least to me is because the MC already suspects its AI (he works in the tech field after all))

The monster tells the MC this because the MC is already aware that Christine would spot it as a deep fake and would be able to point this out to the MC.

It's almost like he's talking to an alter that he just isn't aware off is himself.

Also, as established in ACT 1, the MC is able to use technology to text himself (the servers text him when they have faults))

Happy to be wrong, but There's more evidence that supports this - though the link to Veronica in Act3 does throw a slight spanner into the theory, but I guess that can be explained due to the unreliable narrator plot device.
The problem with the idea the MC is The Monster is while it could be possible from a technical point of view their is a problem, the MC has live chat with The Monster, so the implication would be he is hallucinating an actual conversation with his other personality on his phone, his other personality that is able to perceive everything the MC can, while the MC can't perceive everything the other personality perceive, at this point the amount of wild loops required to be jump thru to make it work has never happened in the history of that sort of issues, communicating indirectly, sure, but live selective communication via hallucination is over the top.

So let's humor that theory and see what would be required to make it work, a fully functional AI the like doesn't exist currently, created by the other personality which would require the other personality to have access to a supercomputer to hold it, as well as the extremely expansive tech required and specially made housing location, that can interact in its stead with the MC & others, so option 1 this story has a secret Sci-fi background.

Option 2, the MC is possessed by a supernatural entity, that entity can perceive anything the MC does and is using its powers to make the MC hallucinate what it wants, and when necessary it can take over to safeguard the MC from danger.

Beyond those two options to have a secondary personality, that has access to the primary personality entire sensorial and memorial input, while being able to block the same thing when its control from reaching the MC, is capable of triggering hallucinations on demands, take over at need, its beyond anything ever experience by any human being suffering from mental issues. Because that is starting to border on the MC being the pilot of a living mecha and the AI that run the mecha normally in the background interfer whenever it need to do so.

Oh and on the subject of the MC not being the MC, look I don't think the Prof would be going that far into the batshit insane, maybe reveal at the end of Act 1 that the MC isn't the MC but making it halfway into the game would be abjectly ridiculous, now if you mean that the MC of the story is Lacey, now that sure Lacey being the main character of the story its far more possible, the Prof seem to care alot more about her than the MC, but otherwise its farfetched to expect some other character would be the MC, and where would it even leave the story, it would effectively erase most of 3 Acts of the narrative and characterization, I know some stories pulled that sort of trick, within like half an hour of the start, at this point we are what maybe passed a dozen hours if you read everything? It would kill this game instantly if the Prof went for that, sure the diehard MC haters might rejoice, but everyone else would abandon this game instantly.
 

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I admit drug use in this game is particular.
Especially the one used on day 3 in Las Vegas.
The one who turns the MC specificaly into an ATM equiped with an AI who answers yes to everything you ask of him , and by proxy at that.
I mean he doesn't even have to take the drug himself for it to works !
How is that for a magical drug ?

Ho and obviously that drug has a tendance to turn girls who are totally in love with the MC into girls who don't give a flying fuck about him but become crazy about any random dude out there.
Certainly a miracle drug for sure.
 

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The problem with the idea the MC is The Monster is while it could be possible from a technical point of view their is a problem, the MC has live chat with The Monster, so the implication would be he is hallucinating an actual conversation with his other personality on his phone, his other personality that is able to perceive everything the MC can, while the MC can't perceive everything the other personality perceive, at this point the amount of wild loops required to be jump thru to make it work has never happened in the history of that sort of issues, communicating indirectly, sure, but live selective communication via hallucination is over the top.
If you've not seen Fight Club you should. Sorry to spoil the ending but you have just described the plot of Fight Club. Except in that movie the alternate identity goes even further than phone conversations - he's in the room with the MC, putting his arm around the MC . . .

And DID is a dissociative disorder and the game mentions dissociation quite a bit . . .

People who hear voice do indeed have conversations with them - which, granted, is another diagnosis but the dev is not sticking to the letter of the DSM
 

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While the Prof definitely idolizes womean a great deal while putting down men, I think that your take is as unhinged as the other poster.
Remember, everyone is an individual before being a man or a woman.

You have clearly not read the novel with attention or you simply are so blinded by your world view (or guilt) that you are unable to form a balanced and logical opinion about it.

And btw, it is Lacey that hints the couple stuff.
If your takes are always on this level, I hope you do not mind if I do not answer further as I dislike silly gender wars.

But I honestly wish you healing and self forgiveness.
I am not being sarcastic.

So this was a point I just made, be aware that depending on the amount of K taken, some effects can last quite a bit even the day after.

Now with Bastion we see that she is not disassociated, just high, so she might have taken less.

Honestly drugs are written in a weird way in this novel, so you need to take the whole yhing with a grain of salt.

I think the other side fits much better, but as I do not have my usual proof in the material, you need to consider this as my personal speculation.
I am not sure I'd say the Prof idealize women really, I mean look at how they act, if the Prof really idealized women they'd all be acting in an ideal ways, most of them would never act in ways that could be deemed really that problematic or questionable, however many of them have acted in ways which are less than flattering, if anything I'd say the Prof for this story is portraying many of them variably negatively, however they clearly adore Lacey even with a staggering amount of flaws, probably because she is one of the two most complex characters in this story and thus the characters that the Prof invested the most time into making.

When it come to the men, I wouldn't say the Prof really put them down, the MC is a great guy which even with everything he went contrary to what monkeyqueen proclaim hasn't turned into a bitter misogynist because of Lacey & Mia. Sure the antagonists are guys, but this is effectively meant to be a harem story, and in harem stories the other guys are most often than not the enemies because they compete for the same LIs.

Outside of that Isaac is a jock, its not putting him down to say that, their are tons of those in real life, he isn't great but he fit reality for many guys in his position as sports stars. The rest of the men have various notable flaws, but the same for pretty much every women too, this story doesn't really have anyone of either gender that isn't suffering from some variable degree of mental issues or flaws in their character.

If you want someone that tend to idealize women that would be more my thing, which is why months ago I argued the Prof should rewrite to some degree Lacey & Mia to tone down significantly their misbehavior and questionable actions if the Prof wanted them to be more palpable and actually likeable LIs.

So yea someone that idealize women wouldn't have written Lacey as extreme as she is, instead would have tried to rely more on accidents or forced interactions to justify her problematic actions, trying to actually divert the blame unto others, while the characters might be doing that verbally in the game, her actions don't account for that and is leaving her wide open for rightful harsh criticism.
 
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The problem with the idea the MC is The Monster is while it could be possible from a technical point of view their is a problem, the MC has live chat with The Monster, so the implication would be he is hallucinating an actual conversation with his other personality on his phone, his other personality that is able to perceive everything the MC can
maybe you are trying to hard to disprove the possibility and im too drowsy today to really get into anything even when its fun.

but, ill say this real quick. MC being dissociative could easily be having these so called live interactions in his mind. there is no proof that they are actually happening. we know he received message, but none of MC's girls have communicated with MC or watched him communicate with MC. one tried tracing where messages came from, and found them to be from the phone itself not a number, like a hack in the physical hardware of the phone. and then we also have the part where narrator tells us everything from MCs perspective is screwy. so not as difficult or crazy as you are trying to make it.

even if its not MC. the story has built in more loopholes to make it possibly be him then anything to say it isnt. i dont even think it is him, i want it to be, but it doesnt make sense when we now know theres an actual cabal out there. and monster seems to know it. thats the biggest reason to say its not him. where would he have learned about the cabal in order to be the monster
 
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So yea someone that idealize women wouldn't have written Lacey as extreme as she is, instead would have tried to rely more on accidents or forced interactions to justify her problematic actions, trying to actually divert the blame unto others, while the characters might be doing that verbally in the game, her actions don't account for that and is leaving her wide open for rightful harsh criticism.
The prof is still trying to write a novel in the NTR genre where questions about the wife's truthfulness are always at question. One of the things that makes the story superior to most NTR stories that the cuck is not brain dead. We have good reason to question the wife's truthfulness.

But the only people who want see her criticized are people who a) identify with the MC b) share the MC's attitudes c) get off on seeing women degraded. Just admit this your kink, peoples! I mean I give the troll credit for coming out and saying it . . .

And the brilliance of the story is that the author has better understanding of NTR cucks than most NTR authors - his cuck hates women, he secretly wants to see his wife degraded but won't take direct action to push her towards a bull who will degrade her because that would expose that he is indeed the monster of the story. Cucks are usually either closet doms or closet subs and this one is an over the dom / top hater of women who hides his misogyny from everyone but his wife and Anna.

And the last part isn't believable at all - I refuse to believe that no one has sniffed out his sexism
 
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The prof is still trying to write a novel in the NTR genre where questions about the wife's truthfulness are always at question. One of the things that makes the story superior to most NTR stories that the cuck is not brain dead. We have good reason to question the wife's truthfulness.

But the only people who want see her criticized are people who a) identify with the MC b) share the MC's attitudes c) get off on seeing women degraded. Just admit this your kink, peoples! I mean I give the troll credit for coming out and saying it . . .

And the brilliance of the story is that the author has better understanding of NTR cucks than most NTR authors - his cuck hates women, he secretly wants to see his wife degraded but won't take direct action to push her towards a bull who will degrade her because that would expose that he is indeed the monster of the story. Cucks are usually either closet doms or closet subs and this one is an over the dom / top hater of women who hides his misogyny from everyone but his wife and Anna.

And the last part isn't believable at all - I refuse to believe that no one has sniffed out his sexism
Sweetheart, I already told you that buzzwords do nothing to me. I'm a proud misogynist. That's why I like Anna by far the most. She chose a man of her own and stuck with him, even when they were not in a relationship. She is wife-material. She knows that her most important role in life is to make her man happy and that in return will make her happy. I'd treat a woman like that with the absolute respect she deserves. I'd even betray my misogynist ways for her (maybe). I'd also treat Lacey with the respect she deserves (0). But I'd never end up in a relationship with someone like her. I kinda dislike the game for not allowing me to choose Anna (or maybe Kelly or that redhead) and just say "get fucked" to all the rest.

Of course the player identifies with the MC to some extend, that's what a story/decision focussed game should achieve. That concept might be too hard to be understood by a woman though, so I'm sorry that you are a woman and thus intellectually challenged. I don't hold that against you. I don't really share the MC's attitudes as I (and many others) already stated that he never really pushes back or punishes anyone. He complains, yes, but nothing comes of it. If you actually think that I would tolerate even the slightest amount of disrespect Lacey has shown towards Captain SaveAHoe, you should try a career as comedian. As for your cuck theory: I'd like Lacey to be faithful, that's why I skip the disrespectful scenes entirely. You can try to "slut-shame" (aka shaming men into liking sluts) as long as you want, but it won't work. Most men differentiate between "fun" & "wife" material, but I'd even advise against Lacey as "fun" material...and you probably don't want to know what I think about men who actually marry a 100+ BC sperm bank. Gayest shit ever. That's why every man gets nightmares if he sees a woman as a cum-dump, same as Captain SaveAHoe...even Lacey knew that, that's why she lied to him.
 
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So now you admit it....

I suppose that's the MC's fault too.

Make your mind up which side of the fence you're putting your hero succubus.
Mate, I have met some dumb people online and you are one of them.

Read my fucking review and see if you can get some air into your helmet so blood gets to your brain.

It's actually pretty simple - you have good reason to doubt but you read closely and critically you will see that Lacey has largely been truthful but is being hectored into agreeing that she is liar. Just like she is hectored into saying she selfish, etc and etc.

Read fine novel with your helmet off and take deep breaths.

100% team Lacey
 

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As for your cuck theory: I'd like Lacey to be faithful, that's why I skip the disrespectful scenes entirely.
Part of me knows I shouldn't be feeding a troll but this fucking hilarious!

I love you listening to you explain why are you not a cuck even as ignored you time and time again. Nope, no nerves touched there! "Please! Please pay attention to me" I like that you are begging for attention but I'm not sure you have convinced me yet. Grovel, say "please" and I might be persuaded to say you aren't cuck.

Oh look, my boots are awfully dirty. What ever shall I do . . ,
 
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Part of me knows I shouldn't be feeding a troll but this fucking hilarious!

I love you listening to you explaining why are you not a cuck even as ignored you time and time again. Nope, no nerves touched there! "Please! Please pay attention to me" I like that you are begging for attention but I'm not sure you have convinced me yet. Grovel, say "please" and I might be persuaded to say you aren't cuck.

Oh look, my boots are awfully dirty. What ever shall I do . . ,
I explained why I played the game a couple of times already. Maybe your reading comprehension just sucks. Oh well, cant expect too much from a woman. Oh, so sad...
 
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Part of me knows I shouldn't be feeding a troll but this fucking hilarious!

I love you listening to you explain why are you not a cuck even as ignored you time and time again. Nope, no nerves touched there! "Please! Please pay attention to me" I like that you are begging for attention but I'm not sure you have convinced me yet. Grovel, say "please" and I might be persuaded to say you aren't cuck.

Oh look, my boots are awfully dirty. What ever shall I do . . ,
Wait, wait, wait, wait...I just noticed your attempt to gaslight me via projection. If you are projecting, does that mean you like Lacey getting treated like shit...is that your kink? :LOL:
 
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Wouldn't that be absolutly hilarious? The man hating liberal feminist bitch wants to be degraded and piped by the most misogynist guy imaginable. You could've just said so and I would've happily complied. No sex though. I don't stick my dick in crazy.
 
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Hopefully the dev sees this. I'm at the part in the story where Lacey is gone on her business strip with her boss Veronica. And up top this point for every transition in the game it flashes to the club image with the long bar and bar-stools for no reason. It also does that when switching to the MC's internal monologue.

Edit* It's as if the dissolve function between scenes got linked to the club image instead of fade to black.

2: I found a spot where it should be Mia speaking but it's listed as the MC.

Great game otherwise! Cheers!

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