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I'm very surprised that no one noted the dialogue between aby and lacey/jeanette just after the BDSM experience.
She ask them a specific question that is very clear and precise on the capacity of the BDSM master (wathever was is name) to be a very good lover , yes , lover.
The answers to that question are very telling imo.
 

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I am not entire against it, I just don't know how you could do it without harming the MC in the process.

Oh... I got it... You don't involve him.

A very clever deep fake could work. Something that covers ALL the angles to push Lacey's buttons. The sky is the limit, it could be the girls (this would complicate things though), it could be unknowns, but the point is that it would have to be harsh, I mean DEVISTATING to her hitting all the right points, saying all the right things, etc... to bring her to complete despair.

Since the girls would be present (Christine especially since she will claim it is real, not a fake) when she is viewing they could be there to make sure she doesn't do anything stupid... but then... the best part, it becomes kind of an intervention in a way... where they all point out how they remember the MC going through this when they watched Lacey and Damian with him. They could even begin to show little sympathy, pointing out... "It is hard to feel sorry for you Lacey, I watched you do this to the MC and he was devastated"

Then, once it was all done, while she is in complete shambles and they have all spoken to the actions she has put the MC through... and she has committed to the reality of it... they let her stew a bit (under supervision), then break the truth to her that it was a fake.

The MC doesn't know anything, he isn't there, he has no idea, and this is done at a point where lets say it is the girls being together over a weekend, so it gives time for it to happen, and for Lacey to reflect on it after she learns the truth.

This could even roll into some sort of break for her, hospital, etc... which complicates things, but... it may even provide a means to make it work even better.

Honestly though, don't think the MC could do it himself without some severe consequence to himself. He is too connected to Lacey, any pain she had would be absorbed to himself and I think while it may cause her to have some "understanding", it would be at a great cost to himself. I just don't see him being able to do that.
You do realize the MC has already fucked Kelly, in Act 1 after Lacey came back he'd be fine if he had done at that point, even if he had felt bad for some time, what pain he'd endured would have been the pale shadow of the pain he had endured when she cheated on him, and allow her to have an actual earned moment of character growth, so it would have worked fine at the time and could have led to a far better narrative and characterization.

But the Dev wanted endless drama so now we are 3 Acts neck deep in drama, and now their is no choice but either at worst another unearned twist in character personality to fix those issues, or have some external metaphysical force to make it happen, their is no way to make that fix fit, the MC's will has been crushed entirely, he has been forced to passively just sit back and let Lacey do anything she wants.
 

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You do realize the MC has already fucked Kelly, in Act 1 after Lacey came back he'd be fine if he had done at that point, even if he had felt bad for some time, what pain he'd endured would have been the pale shadow of the pain he had endured when she cheated on him, and allow her to have an actual earned moment of character growth, so it would have worked fine at the time and could have led to a far better narrative and characterization.

But the Dev wanted endless drama so now we are 3 Acts neck deep in drama, and now their is no choice but either at worst another unearned twist in character personality to fix those issues, or have some external metaphysical force to make it happen, their is no way to make that fix fit, the MC's will has been crushed entirely, he has been forced to passively just sit back and let Lacey do anything she wants.
That may be, I am just speaking to a specific solution for a Lacey "dealing with what she has dealt". We may be too far past that due to the MCs break and health, but... maybe not in terms of lacey FULLY coming to terms and this may be a way (for the route to repair their relationship) to give her the means and motivations to actually "help" rather than the "hindering" she has been doing.


I don't think Lacey will "get it" by simply having to experience him being with another, even if it is watching...

Nope... it has to be soul crushing. When I say soul crushing, I mean... every fear, every single thing that would be a horror to see and hear from the MC, every element to reflect back at her how she has been, what she has done, but wrapped up into that presentation in some way.

She literally has to be on the verge of demanding that she can kill herself at that very moment, to escape the very horror she just witnessed... This is why it should be over a course of a couple of days before they break the truth, something where they refuse to let her act, to force her to simply sit... cry, scream, sob and swirl in it.

Unless we a going for some other type of ending (demoralized, breakup, etc...) this would be a "reasonable" means to provide an eventual reconnection.

Lacey is the problem right now. Sure, she forgave herself, but she has only done so "partially". She blames herself, but she still shifted blame on the exes, on mia (which is fair), but ultimately... the reason things are the way they are aren't because of her college days (they play a big part), but because of the way she acted since coming back to the MC (and the various lies she did it under).

She hasn't come to terms with it, sure... she talks the talk, says all the right words, but she doesn't truly accept the responsibility of them. They are... simply telling the MC what he wants to hear, but not understanding what it is she is actually saying.

This type of shock could be the catalyst to that understanding, a true revelation that causes her to freak the hell out, and to be honest... I have yet to see her truly attend to it (very briefly with the split personality break). She hasn't hit rock bottom, she is nowhere near on that level of understanding.

once she does though... then she can begin to actually grow, not through words, but a show of actions to the MC. Simply being a good wife, considerate of her words and actions, of him... If she did that from the start, I doubt things would be as bad as they are (even the MC said this, if she would simply stop hurting him) and she hurts him because she doesn't understand that she is hurting him... I mean. TRULY understand.

I think from that, it would be possible for her to then work on his mental health issues. Without her being the cause of continued issues, they simply have to repair from what has already occurred and I think the MC (at least he was) was pretty good at working to that, he had a long way to go for sure, but the long road is really... the only road. There is no quick fix here, just consistency to a cause and that will eventually heal things, and allow stability over time I would think (along with a crap load of therapy both individually between them and eventually group wise).

I think it is possible, and the professor could still throw in some twists and drama as it is progressing, providing Lacey herself is no longer the cause and she becomes more a means for them to build a defense together.

Again, this is the "They end up together" resolution, the others are easy to progress in. This would be the hardest to reason to work.

Oh, there is the other side to this as well... she breaks, the "old lacey" returns (because she no longer has anything left to be the new lacey for) and this could open up a complete shit show of drama as the girls try to get her to realize it was a fake (I get the whole exorcist vibe from this, "Lacey is no longer here") ... but that may be too much... lol.. hell.. I am spit balling into dark drama now.

Oh well... they are just thoughts... I wonder what the professor will come up with though.
 
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I'm very surprised that no one noted the dialogue between aby and lacey/jeanette just after the BDSM experience.
She ask them a specific question that is very clear and precise on the capacity of the BDSM master (wathever was is name) to be a very good lover , yes , lover.
The answers to that question are very telling imo.
I won't say yes, I won't say no.

What I will say is this forum is filled with theories based on some pretty reasonable takes of the dialogue for it to end up never answered to or simply be a "choice of words" in the moment by the professor.
 

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I won't say yes, I won't say no.

What I will say is this forum is filled with theories based on some pretty reasonable takes of the dialogue for it to end up never answered to or simply be a "choice of words" in the moment by the professor.
I just wanted to point out how what lacey and jeanette say to aby is completely different to what they say to the MC.

A: The rumor is that he's an incredible lover , like no other.
L: That's probably extremely accurate.
J: Yeah. It would be hard to argue that.

Now if you compare that to what they say happened to the MC , that's very different.
I would love it if the MC could see that video in act 4 to see what an incredible LOVER the master BDSM guy is.

Edit : Now it could be a very poor choice of words , scratch that , sentences by prof , but it's tiring to second guess every word or sentence in the game if it doesn't fit a certain idea of what happens.
 
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I just wanted to point out how what lacey and jeanette say to aby is completely different to what they say to the MC.

A: The rumor is that he's an incredible lover , like no other.
L: That's probably extremely accurate.
J: Yeah. It would be hard to argue that.

Now if you compare that to what they say happened to the MC , that's very different.
I would love it if the MC could see that video in act 4 to see what an incredible LOVER the master BDSM guy is.

Edit : Now it could be a very poor choice of words , scratch that , sentences by prof , but it's tiring to second guess every word or sentence in the game if it doesn't fit a certain idea of what happens.

Yeah, it can drive you crazy.

I would say the professor (outside of big twists for drama) isn't the type I have noticed to do a lot of subtle foreshadowing to plot twists.
 

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That may be, I am just speaking to a specific solution for a Lacey "dealing with what she has dealt". We may be too far past that due to the MCs break and health, but... maybe not in terms of lacey FULLY coming to terms and this may be a way (for the route to repair their relationship) to give her the means and motivations to actually "help" rather than the "hindering" she has been doing.


I don't think Lacey will "get it" by simply having to experience him being with another, even if it is watching...

Nope... it has to be soul crushing. When I say soul crushing, I mean... every fear, every single thing that would be a horror to see and hear from the MC, every element to reflect back at her how she has been, what she has done, but wrapped up into that presentation in some way.

She literally has to be on the verge of demanding that she can kill herself at that very moment, to escape the very horror she just witnessed... This is why it should be over a course of a couple of days before they break the truth, something where they refuse to let her act, to force her to simply sit... cry, scream, sob and swirl in it.

Unless we a going for some other type of ending (demoralized, breakup, etc...) this would be a "reasonable" means to provide an eventual reconnection.

Lacey is the problem right now. Sure, she forgave herself, but she has only done so "partially". She blames herself, but she still shifted blame on the exes, on mia (which is fair), but ultimately... the reason things are the way they are aren't because of her college days (they play a big part), but because of the way she acted since coming back to the MC (and the various lies she did it under).

She hasn't come to terms with it, sure... she talks the talk, says all the right words, but she doesn't truly accept the responsibility of them. They are... simply telling the MC what he wants to hear, but not understanding what it is she is actually saying.

This type of shock could be the catalyst to that understanding, a true revelation that causes her to freak the hell out, and to be honest... I have yet to see her truly attend to it (very briefly with the split personality break). She hasn't hit rock bottom, she is nowhere near on that level of understanding.

once she does though... then she can begin to actually grow, not through words, but a show of actions to the MC. Simply being a good wife, considerate of her words and actions, of him... If she did that from the start, I doubt things would be as bad as they are (even the MC said this, if she would simply stop hurting him) and she hurts him because she doesn't understand that she is hurting him... I mean. TRULY understand.

I think from that, it would be possible for her to then work on his mental health issues. Without her being the cause of continued issues, they simply have to repair from what has already occurred and I think the MC (at least he was) was pretty good at working to that, he had a long way to go for sure, but the long road is really... the only road. There is no quick fix here, just consistency to a cause and that will eventually heal things, and allow stability over time I would think (along with a crap load of therapy both individually between them and eventually group wise).

I think it is possible, and the professor could still throw in some twists and drama as it is progressing, providing Lacey herself is no longer the cause and she becomes more a means for them to build a defense together.

Again, this is the "They end up together" resolution, the others are easy to progress in. This would be the hardest to reason to work.

Oh, there is the other side to this as well... she breaks, the "old lacey" returns (because she no longer has anything left to be the new lacey for) and this could open up a complete shit show of drama as the girls try to get her to realize it was a fake (I get the whole exorcist vibe from this, "Lacey is no longer here") ... but that may be too much... lol.. hell.. I am spit balling into dark drama now.

Oh well... they are just thoughts... I wonder what the professor will come up with though.
As you said the shock treatment is about what need to happen at this point, I suspect what will happen is the reverse of what I said in my theory of what if Mia hadn't showed the MC's the videos, Act 4 will be the MC under the control of a secondary persona is going to go around and do everything he couldn't allow himself, going around and fucking girl after girl after girl, Lacey and his girls will track him down and she'll have to face the fact he went on this massive sex binge, she'll approach him, convince the MC's other persona to at least let her have one last great fuck, she'll basically do to him what was done to her in College, forcing a 'reset' by basically fucking him like crazy, possibly with the assistance of some of his other girls. Once he got 'reset' his personality is going to be an amalgam of both, so he'll be back to himself, but with his will and confidence returned to him, and now willing to fuck around.

Act 5 with the MC main persona back in charge he'll inform Lacey about her family property, they'll go there, there Lacey will come to term with everything she did and how it felt when she figured the MC fucked around likely crazy, as well as coming to term with her childhood, this Act will be around her coming to term with all of that and her own divergent personalities, ending with her coming to term with it and fusion together like the MC.
 
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I deleted the mega download and redownloaded from datanode. I doubled clicked the exe and windows defender popped up and i clicked on run. Again nothing happened. No idea what the issue is!:(
You probably have UAC set to high and windows defender blocks the exe from being started you could try to run as administrator or
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You probably have UAC set to high and windows defender blocks the exe from being started you could try to run as administrator or
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It's not showing up in protection history. So I don't think it is blocked by defender. I added the folder and exe to exclusion list. Run as admin. Still nothing.
Can you guys tell me which link you downloaded the game from and which tool do you use for extracting the files?
I tried winrar, 7zip and default windows extraction.

I really hope I didn't install a malware on my pc.:oops:
 
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It's not showing up in protection history. So I don't think it is blocked by defender. I added the folder and exe to exclusion list. Run as admin. Still nothing.
Can you guys tell me which link you downloaded the game from and which tool do you use for extracting the files?
I tried winrar, 7zip and default windows extraction.

I really hope I didn't install a malware on my pc.:oops:
Jeezus I think your computer must be cursed, because at this point its beyond any reason for it not to work, I typically download from Buzz or GoFile games I get on this site, I downloaded this game from Buzz, extract it with winrar. You could start relocating the game file maybe somewhere else than wherever you typically put them, if a pink windows defender thing open up their is a option for Details visible if you click that it will show details and give you a run option, beyond that frankly if it doesn't work the problem is likely with your computer, tried running any other Ren'Py recently?
 
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It's not showing up in protection history. So I don't think it is blocked by defender. I added the folder and exe to exclusion list. Run as admin. Still nothing.
Can you guys tell me which link you downloaded the game from and which tool do you use for extracting the files?
I tried winrar, 7zip and default windows extraction.

I really hope I didn't install a malware on my pc.:oops:
Does it happen with any other renpy game or just this one( i downloaded from mediafire btw)
 
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Jeezus I think your computer must be cursed, because at this point its beyond any reason for it not to work, I typically download from Buzz or GoFile games I get on this site, I downloaded this game from Buzz, extract it with winrar. You could start relocating the game file maybe somewhere else than wherever you typically put them, if a pink windows defender thing open up their is a option for Details visible if you click that it will show details and give you a run option, beyond that frankly if it doesn't work the problem is likely with your computer, tried running any other Ren'Py recently?
Does it happen with any other renpy game or just this one( i downloaded from mediafire btw)
I downloaded other renpy games today and they work just fine.
Just facing issue with this game.:(
 
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