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Ren'Py Love, Lust, and Rock 'n Roll [v1.9.1] [FlinPaltwell]

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FlinPaltwell

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Dev... could you please make an android? it doesnt run on joiplay...:cry::cry:
Look, I could build the game for Android, but it just...really sucks, man. The game wasn't designed for mobile at all.

I'm going to type up a long-winded rant here, but just know I'm not mad at you at all, you and I are cool. This is for everyone, silent or otherwise, who may be curious for some insight into why I've never made an Android build.

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Now, I know I can figure out how to fix all of these problems, but I don't currently know how, so I'd have to research it for hours and hours and bang my head against the wall, all to create an experience that...I don't understand the desire for.

Normally I'm all about letting people do whatever they wanna do, and if you wanna play a janky build on Android so that you can read tiny visual novel text on a tiny screen, that's okay with me. If people get it working on Joiplay, or hack it and create their own Android build, hey, more power to you! Any broken behavior is innately understood as something the dev didn't condone.

But if I release an official build, that means I condone it, and suddenly the requests shift from "please make an android build" to "dev, why is your android build all messed up, please fix it."

For these reasons, I do not feel as though it is a simple matter of just hitting the "Android build" button and releasing that.

I will, however, point out that anyone can do this themselves pretty easily, with any Ren'Py game. You don't need Joiplay.
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I did this to make an Android build for Doki Doki Literature club when a friend of mine said he wanted the "Monika ending" on his phone (and it worked, and I sent it to him and he never tried it, ungrateful fuck).

In the past, some people got it working on Joiplay (I recall someone had to update theirs to get it to work). I don't know if me updating Ren'Py has messed with that functionality at all, as I've never used Joiplay. I like to imagine that if you can get that to work, you may circumvent all the above issues.
I may futz around with Joiplay sometime, and if I figure anything out about it I'll let you know.

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I do have a friend who argued that it would be worth my time to figure out how to fix the mobile issues, as he felt confident that would bring in a ton of new people. He said he would have played my game several times by now if there was an Android build. If I knew it would be easy, I'd go ahead and do it.

The real issue is that pride would force me to expend a lot of development time on this if I worked on it at all.

Anyway, I hope that helps to explain what the hang-up is with Android and why I've been so resistant to it.
 

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Look, I could build the game for Android, but it just...really sucks, man. The game wasn't designed for mobile at all.

I'm going to type up a long-winded rant here, but just know I'm not mad at you at all, you and I are cool. This is for everyone, silent or otherwise, who may be curious for some insight into why I've never made an Android build.

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Now, I know I can figure out how to fix all of these problems, but I don't currently know how, so I'd have to research it for hours and hours and bang my head against the wall, all to create an experience that...I don't understand the desire for.

Normally I'm all about letting people do whatever they wanna do, and if you wanna play a janky build on Android so that you can read tiny visual novel text on a tiny screen, that's okay with me. If people get it working on Joiplay, or hack it and create their own Android build, hey, more power to you! Any broken behavior is innately understood as something the dev didn't condone.

But if I release an official build, that means I condone it, and suddenly the requests shift from "please make an android build" to "dev, why is your android build all messed up, please fix it."

For these reasons, I do not feel as though it is a simple matter of just hitting the "Android build" button and releasing that.

I will, however, point out that anyone can do this themselves pretty easily, with any Ren'Py game. You don't need Joiplay.
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I did this to make an Android build for Doki Doki Literature club when a friend of mine said he wanted the "Monika ending" on his phone (and it worked, and I sent it to him and he never tried it, ungrateful fuck).

In the past, some people got it working on Joiplay (I recall someone had to update theirs to get it to work). I don't know if me updating Ren'Py has messed with that functionality at all, as I've never used Joiplay. I like to imagine that if you can get that to work, you may circumvent all the above issues.
I may futz around with Joiplay sometime, and if I figure anything out about it I'll let you know.

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I do have a friend who argued that it would be worth my time to figure out how to fix the mobile issues, as he felt confident that would bring in a ton of new people. He said he would have played my game several times by now if there was an Android build. If I knew it would be easy, I'd go ahead and do it.

The real issue is that pride would force me to expend a lot of development time on this if I worked on it at all.

Anyway, I hope that helps to explain what the hang-up is with Android and why I've been so resistant to it.
Thank you dev, ill try it as you told me:)
 
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Oh, on the topic of updating Ren'Py, I forgot to mention something:

A few months ago, Ren'Py version 8.4.1 was released, and it raised the operating system requirements so you have to be on Windows 10 or later.
Usually, I update Ren'Py when I do a new release, but just this one time, I decided to forego it so that if you somehow happen to still be on Windows 7 or 8 you could enjoy this most recent update.

Just so my intentions are clear, I'd like to let you know that the plan is to update Ren'Py for my final release, so over the next so many months, I strongly encourage you to try to update your system if you're still on Windows 7 or 8.
 

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Updated Android port. Nothing too fancy but let me know if you have any issues.

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Updated Android port. Nothing too fancy but let me know if you have any issues.

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So we're

So we're a few updates from the final release i take it? I come by to check.
No, this next update is going to be the last one, the final release. Then I'm marking the game as "complete" and moving on forever to a new project. Which is why I'm going to take my time and try to make it at least somewhat robust.

I know the last several updates have taken a long while, but this one in particular will have me sitting there thinking "this is my last chance to do X or Y," which has me critically analyzing many aspects of the game that I've ignored this whole time. For example, do I want to actually add some backgrounds? Am I REALLY okay with the actual final draft of the game having all these black backgrounds?
(lol yeah, I think so)

Do I want to try to update the UI a little more, maybe round off the corners of the bars in the conversation mini-game (this is weirdly way harder than I thought it would be)? Any old scenes I still want to revamp? Any random fun ideas I thought of that I'd like to cram in there?

But most importantly, writing all of the endings is something I'm trying to approach with a lot of care. It's a silly little erotica cheating game but I've poured quite a few years of my life into it at this point, and if the endings feel too rushed to me then I'm going to have a bitter feeling moving on. I think I deserve a feeling of resolution and contentment, as do all of you who've followed and supported this for so long!

I know myself, and I know things are going to nag at me before I can bring myself to click that "build" button for the final time. That said, if I get to a point where the endings are feeling strong, I know that'll help me accept some of the other things in their current state.

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I will also upload the Blender files for the characters with rudimentary instructions on how to use them so you can make your own stuff. I'll include at least a few of the project files that have completed renders/animations too.
 

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No, this next update is going to be the last one, the final release. Then I'm marking the game as "complete" and moving on forever to a new project. Which is why I'm going to take my time and try to make it at least somewhat robust.

I know the last several updates have taken a long while, but this one in particular will have me sitting there thinking "this is my last chance to do X or Y," which has me critically analyzing many aspects of the game that I've ignored this whole time. For example, do I want to actually add some backgrounds? Am I REALLY okay with the actual final draft of the game having all these black backgrounds?
(lol yeah, I think so)

Do I want to try to update the UI a little more, maybe round off the corners of the bars in the conversation mini-game (this is weirdly way harder than I thought it would be)? Any old scenes I still want to revamp? Any random fun ideas I thought of that I'd like to cram in there?

But most importantly, writing all of the endings is something I'm trying to approach with a lot of care. It's a silly little erotica cheating game but I've poured quite a few years of my life into it at this point, and if the endings feel too rushed to me then I'm going to have a bitter feeling moving on. I think I deserve a feeling of resolution and contentment, as do all of you who've followed and supported this for so long!

I know myself, and I know things are going to nag at me before I can bring myself to click that "build" button for the final time. That said, if I get to a point where the endings are feeling strong, I know that'll help me accept some of the other things in their current state.

---

I will also upload the Blender files for the characters with rudimentary instructions on how to use them so you can make your own stuff. I'll include at least a few of the project files that have completed renders/animations too.
I feel like I should take advantage of this to ask for something i want.
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Are you really okay with so many cumming inside scenarios with no visual feature for the creampie?

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I feel like I should take advantage of this to ask for something i want.
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Are you really okay with so many cumming inside scenarios with no visual feature for the creampie?

Appreciate you and the game you've made this far
Lol mate, I love your enthusiasm and I know you feel strongly on this, and it's totally fair enough to make one final request at this stage, but...it's the same answer I gave last time.

Such content is not in the game because I have a strong aversion to seeing cum in general, and this is a truth that will persist into anything else I make. If it was added to the game for free, I'd honestly expend effort to remove it (though in such a hypothetical, I'd probably also send the imagery over to you just to be nice lol).

Now, I've seen some depictions of cum that are very "watery" which I don't mind nearly as much, so I'm not going to say there's a 0% chance I'll ever depict cum of any sort in a future game, but...it's a low chance. And for LLRR, it's 0%.
Sorry.
 

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Lol mate, I love your enthusiasm and I know you feel strongly on this, and it's totally fair enough to make one final request at this stage, but...it's the same answer I gave last time.

Such content is not in the game because I have a strong aversion to seeing cum in general, and this is a truth that will persist into anything else I make. If it was added to the game for free, I'd honestly expend effort to remove it (though in such a hypothetical, I'd probably also send the imagery over to you just to be nice lol).

Now, I've seen some depictions of cum that are very "watery" which I don't mind nearly as much, so I'm not going to say there's a 0% chance I'll ever depict cum of any sort in a future game, but...it's a low chance. And for LLRR, it's 0%.
Sorry.
Understandable really. I've had mental gymnastics about any hypothetical game I'd make along with things i would refuse to illustrate, animate or feature. So that train of thought....
Understandable.
Appreciate the heads up
 
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This is a great game. There are far too few in its genre where the guy cheats on their SO unbeknownst to them and they do everything to keep it a secret, and the SO is NOT a cuckquean who ends up being okay with it and voids all the tension, the taboo, and the excitement out of the cheating.

In fact, I don't really know know of any other game other than this one that does this, to be honest.
 

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This is a great game. There are far too few in its genre where the guy cheats on their SO unbeknownst to them and they do everything to keep it a secret, and the SO is NOT a cuckquean who ends up being okay with it and voids all the tension, the taboo, and the excitement out of the cheating.

In fact, I don't really know know of any other game other than this one that does this, to be honest.
Thanks!
I agree, my enthusiasm for a cheating story drops like a rock once the cheating is revealed, regardless of whether it leads to a breakup or a cuckquean thing. Can't have that.

UNLESS the story is reaching its conclusion, which it is. You can read this post to see my plans for the various endings I'm working on now.
 
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