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Steam wanted me to add a trailer that has actual gameplay in it, so I needed to update it. I'll likely do one that has ONLY gameplay (without any effects). Apart from that, and some comments about the Adult Declaration they didn't seem to have any issues (touch wood), so it's hopefully on track for a 31st May release:



As always, if you want to give the game a little algorithmic boost, give it a wishlist on Steam; it really helps with the upcoming launch.

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Steam wanted me to add a trailer that has actual gameplay in it, so I needed to update it. I'll likely do one that has ONLY gameplay (without any effects). Apart from that, and some comments about the Adult Declaration they didn't seem to have any issues (touch wood), so it's hopefully on track for a 31st May release:



As always, if you want to give the game a little algorithmic boost, give it a wishlist on Steam; it really helps with the upcoming launch.

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"Face your nightmares" with a footage of a flying helicopter... I know I haven't played in a while but don't tell me you put a helicopter mission from GTA Vice City in there?
 
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Hey Droid Productions how are you? Will be there a discount pack with the Book 1 and 2 for the Book 2 steam release? Also I'm planning to buy Book 2 but played the Book 1 version from here, will be any problem with saves incompatibility? edit: Oh! I forgot, How is the compatibility with Steam Deck?
 

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Hey Droid Productions how are you? Will be there a discount pack with the Book 1 and 2 for the Book 2 steam release? Also I'm planning to buy Book 2 but played the Book 1 version from here, will be any problem with saves incompatibility? edit: Oh! I forgot, How is the compatibility with Steam Deck?
I'm putting Book 1 on sale the day before Book 2 releases (with 20% discount). Later on I'll do a joint package with both of them on sale. I don't have a Steam deck for testing, but I imagine the lack of a mouse pointer is problematic. I can probably work around it, but it was never really designed for a controller.
 

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And while I wait for the testers on to help clean out the stubborn last issues... time to start Book 3. It'll start showing up on the Development Branch of Book 2, probably before I get to the actual release.
 

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Ahhh right - no if its not in the walkthrough I haven't done things in elsewhere - thanks I'll get on it.
If you're playing with the walkthrough, you should also have two other resources open/available at the same time: the page on the wiki that describes all the events/side quests, and the character tables that tell you on which day stat/effect/skill upgrades are available (and where/how to trigger them). The walkthrough's sometimes thin on details when it comes to non-main story events.
 

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Yeah, the Wiki's the best resource in general:


Having said that, most of the game will unfold around you as you play (assuming you're just playing, not trying to minmax yourself into a corner). Explore the place, go have a drink, explore elsewhere, etc. Stuff will automatically unlock as you go, it's not like "then grind 5 times, on this, then 5 times on that, then show up at the graveyard at precisely 11.58 and say the words "Klaatu Barada Nikto" to unlock the scene).

 

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Love that movie.

What you write is true, but it's also a dev's omniscient view. You know that there are x*3 (or whatever) more morning slots than morning-only events (including the main story, stat-building, and subplots) because you wrote and coded them. To a player who doesn't know much more about the game than what's on their screen (which one hopes will eventually be most of them), facing an ever-accumulating pile of morning-only events, and as a result searching for and finding the walkthrough (like the original poster), "just playing" probably doesn't feel like an option, because it's difficult to tell which options are crucial versus pure flavor. (And, to be fair, someone using a walkthrough was never going to "just play" in the first place.)

Yes, the dialogue tries to stress which quests are more helpful than others. Yes, obviously, one can always save/reverse course (or cheat). It's all very well done. But to someone who 1) plays the game, 2) uses the walkthrough, but 3) doesn't have all the background assurances provided on Discord or other sites (including this one), the options accumulate rather quickly, and a certain amount of stress over read/train/quest/subquest/story options is natural...especially early on in Book 2, when there really are a lot of available options, plus a lot of story standing between the player and those options. Book 1 tends to force the player's hand near the end of chapters. Book 2 forces the player's hand at the start and then loosens up, or at least so it seemed from what little of it I've played so far.

Again: I was calm about it, and will remain so when I buy the game and finally play my way past week two, but I've read everything you've written here and in other venues. I know it's all going to be fine. A less meta-informed player might not realize that the super-tight content locks common to other games are rare. (That said, they're not nonexistent, either. At least, that's what the walkthrough for Book 1 suggests. I didn't test the assertion.)
 

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(That said, they're not nonexistent, either. At least, that's what the walkthrough for Book 1 suggests. I didn't test the assertion.)
There's a couple of times I have to time out optional content, because they don't make sense due to the story progressing. At some points some characters are unavailable, or their relationship with you changes. The obvious one here is Molly, who has a full on brat-act going on until the end of Act II. All of that optional content needs to be gated away, or you'd wonder why she's still acting like a bitch after becoming Chosen.
 

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I believe Book 2 is masterpiece !!! I just finished it for the 1st time all of it. It is a never ending running from the start to try and do everything you possible can as much earlier in the book which resulted to a few empty days before the end. I haven't played a game so full of events following a really great story. It maybe a bit stressing but everything pays off to you. Great videos, great music, great story and great scenes. I still do hate Droid (a bit) for the losses but I feel so happy that I came across such a game. If all the books together were a movie would be one of the best. If this game was an open world RPG would be one of the best. Thanks Droid for giving us the opportunity to play and read such a game story.
 

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All of that optional content needs to be gated away
It also needs to be listed in game, without having to rely on wiki or forums like in Hail Dicktator. Best games that I played dosen't need walkthrough, mods or variables cheat too see all content. Players shouldn't be able to miss amazing quests like Black Rose by accident.
Proper scene gallery also must have, maybe you can implement it based on save system. Like premade saves, that unlocks after you saw scene in game. Or at least autosaves before naughty scenes like Act X Completed ones.
 
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It also needs to be listed in game, without having to rely on wiki or forums like in Hail Dicktator. Best games that I played dosen't need walkthrough, mods or variables cheat too see all content. Players shouldn't be able to miss amazing quests like Black Rose by accident.
Proper scene gallery also must have, maybe you can implement it based on save system. Like premade saves, that unlocks after you saw scene in game. Or at least autosaves before naughty scenes like Act X Completed ones.
There is the memories section, but I didn't make one for Love of Magic for fully recalling sex scenes.

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It's a scourge of the modern game design.
Still, its good for "game with porn in it" or "porn game". To make blind exploration intresting you really have to do Elden Ring level of game design (which is btw also criticized for not having quest journal by many).
just gimme the spankbank, fuck the story, who's got time for that?
This is what I don't like about current Memories section in Love of Magic. Without dialogs it's just a bunch of sprites and backgrounds.
 

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This is what I don't like about current Memories section in Love of Magic. Without dialogs it's just a bunch of sprites and backgrounds.
Yeah, it's unexciting. The problem is that having people tell us that they're totally uninterested in the story for Paradise Lust, and just want to get to the sex scenes and then leave, is soul-crushing, and for Love of Magic it's my soul getting crushed (I don't write PL).

Anyway, it's something I could think about.
 

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It also needs to be listed in game, without having to rely on wiki or forums like in Hail Dicktator. Best games that I played dosen't need walkthrough, mods or variables cheat too see all content. Players shouldn't be able to miss amazing quests like Black Rose by accident.
Proper scene gallery also must have, maybe you can implement it based on save system. Like premade saves, that unlocks after you saw scene in game. Or at least autosaves before naughty scenes like Act X Completed ones.
Well I played the game without the wiki or walkthrough and while I admit it's time consuming to try to get a quest all the time before doing other activities the only thing's I lost was some side events that needed you to bring specific people to elsewhere together and talk to them, that's about it but if someone looses the black rose I doubt they're even trying to play... there's an active quests bar right there and if you can't even activate the quests...well not you, anyone...
About scene gallery you're right it would be good to have one based on save system but as I see it it's not a priority in this game , this is all about telling a story with some flavors so the story comes first and I know Droid feels the same as he completes the memories at the end of the book
Just save before scenes lol
 
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There is the memories section, but I didn't make one for Love of Magic for fully recalling sex scenes.

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A lot of that is more the fault of a segment of players that want everything in easy mode and so called game journalists that keep them worked up about a game's difficulty, but many developers do give too much attention the the squeaky wheel. They call themselves game journalists but they're really just bloggers promising devs that if they give them free copies of their games they'll review them on their podcasts since they have so many followers. They mostly just gripe about how hard a game is and that every game made should have an easy mode setting. A good recent example was the big uproar among the 'journalists' over how difficult Elden Ring is and that devs should make it easier because it's too hard to play and players won't buy it, yet it sold over 13 million copies it's first month.

Just make your games the way you want them, if people like it they'll buy it, if not there are plenty of handholding easy games for them to choose from.
 
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