Ren'Py Love & Sex Second Base [v25.10.0] [Andrealphus]

[Evil13]

So far I've lost about half of my characters. That is too much IMHO and far beyond mutually exclusive.

I also like games where there are consequences to your choices, but not when you have to start from scratch every time you make a bad choice and you can lose half of your characters.
How about auto saved rollback points or at least a warning so you have a chance to save before you make the bad choice. If neither is implemented, you should not expect to see me donating to this game.

Okay, right now, the only mutually exclusive characters are Camila and Kylie.

From the sounds of it, you're trying to get all the girls at the same time, and you're losing them because you aren't putting in the time to raise their stats. Want a harem? The girls in question need to be really kinky, really love you and kinda get off on the idea of another woman in the mix. This is less the fault of the game and you rushing things instead.

 

[petyus978]

Can anyone tell me how to reverse an event and choices in a save file?
I would like to go for a different path for Hanna, but I don't want to restart from 0.

 

[Cartageno]

So far I've lost about half of my characters. That is too much IMHO and far beyond mutually exclusive.

I also like games where there are consequences to your choices, but not when you have to start from scratch every time you make a bad choice and you can lose half of your characters.
How about auto saved rollback points or at least a warning so you have a chance to save before you make the bad choice. If neither is implemented, you should not expect to see me donating to this game.

It also isn't that easy because for most paths closing it isn't the "one decision" but a combination of wrong advancement - similar to what Evil13 said - and wrong stats. Or multiple wrong decisions where it isn't a single one, as in the case of Emma (whom you really should forget about before you got a feel for the game).

I get that you do not like that but yeah, it's a part of this game. There are a couple of options here: you could delve deeper and use the wiki more even though you don't like it. You could bite your tongue and just accept that you will not get all the girls in one run. You could decide that this game isn't for you.

But I would argue that changing this aspect wouldn't do much good. This is intentionally not a VN but a stat and time management game (I would argue that in a way the "management" tag is missing, but then again people would probably expect the wrong kind of management if it were there). People who support the dev or bought the game like it for that reason. Since I bought it I played I think five playthroughs - mostly not for seeing the scenes again but for the progression, the feeling of accomplishment when Sasha starts hinting again that she knows this one guy. I like that for once in a sandbox you do not just run around to unlock scene A or scene B in any order (thus sandbox) but you will unlock them.

I would be very unhappy (in terms of "video game storylines seriously interfering with my wellbeing" which is admittedly limited) if this were to become just another "run around and meet the girls and then fuck them" game. I mean, there are good ones in that category, and there are also other ones which serve this "kink" (if you will, it isn't sexual in the beginning though I do like the sex) and Andrealphus wouldn't lose much since I already bought the game and wouldn't do it again anyway (also, Steam doesn't allow for that), but I think others who are still here after years of "frustration" of Audrey running away, Sasha being jealous, and Emma being Emma would think similarily.

 

[snookums.d.panda]

Does anyone have a code or any method to be able to get through Emma's story? Because I've read that her story must not have sex with other people before her (as far as I remember), which for me was not possible because I had to do other storylines with different characters. Which if I only do her story would waste a lot of time which would also be more tiring.

Apologies for not replying sooner, but one thing about Emma is that she actually doesn't mind if you've had sex with women before her. Hell, the way one of the events is written she's surprisingly pragmatic about it. Her concern is more about what (or rather who) you're doing as you're getting to know her.

Coincidentally, I was also mid-Emma run to try and pin down specific things to do (or rather, not do) in order to be judged a good boy by her and not have to constantly check the wiki/do mental calculations. While I did have to resort to calling upon the slumbering Chea'thulhu to tweak one thing as I was in a hurry, but I can say my plan ended in success.

(In my defense, apparently you can't have a picnic in the park during the first week of winter because of some, inexplicable reason programmed into the game. My argument to that is because of a) the general attire of park goers on that day and b) my eyes were not poked out by any extremely erect nipples means that it was not cold enough to prevent a relaxing picnic. So I'm sticking to my guns on the fact I shouldn't have had to skip forward a month to do that event.)

Now while people would probably a nice guide to Emma, I do think that the way to avoid the major deal breakers would be as follows:

1. Don't sleep with Bree.
2. Slow down on Sam after she gets married.
3. No official girlfriends/slaves.
4. DON'T UNLOCK CASSIDY.

While I am able to go a little more in depth into each of those, unfortunately the first draft is a bit nuts, even by my standards. Maybe after a nap and a proofread I can get something out of it.

 

[Cartageno]

Apologies for not replying sooner, but one thing about Emma is that she actually doesn't mind if you've had sex with women before her. Hell, the way one of the events is written she's surprisingly pragmatic about it. Her concern is more about what (or rather who) you're doing as you're getting to know her.

Coincidentally, I was also mid-Emma run to try and pin down specific things to do (or rather, not do) in order to be judged a good boy by her and not have to constantly check the wiki/do mental calculations. While I did have to resort to calling upon the slumbering Chea'thulhu to tweak one thing as I was in a hurry, but I can say my plan ended in success.

(In my defense, apparently you can't have a picnic in the park during the first week of winter because of some, inexplicable reason programmed into the game. My argument to that is because of a) the general attire of park goers on that day and b) my eyes were not poked out by any extremely erect nipples means that it was not cold enough to prevent a relaxing picnic. So I'm sticking to my guns on the fact I shouldn't have had to skip forward a month to do that event.)

Now while people would probably a nice guide to Emma, I do think that the way to avoid the major deal breakers would be as follows:

1. Don't sleep with Bree.
2. Slow down on Sam after she gets married.
3. No official girlfriends/slaves.
4. DON'T UNLOCK CASSIDY.

While I am able to go a little more in depth into each of those, unfortunately the first draft is a bit nuts, even by my standards. Maybe after a nap and a proofread I can get something out of it.

I think that point 4 is the most important one, at least for practical purposes. (This might be the reason why you put it in all caps) If you know the game you can slow it down and take a breather - but almost everything with Cassidy is on a timer, so it WILL happen.

Apart from the "getting to know the game" stuff I wrote before, I'd also argue that waiting with Emma for a NG+ run makes things incredibly more easy. (1) You have the money so you don't need to work - which will stop Cassidy since no promotion -> no party -> no Cassidy. (2) You can opt for the "lucky" trait (which is definitely not recommended for a first game) or at least avoid the "unlucky" bad trait, speeding up Emma immensely.

Point (1) isn't that bad, however - do not start the harem, do not gift Bree a collar.

You should be set then, as long as Bree "behaves" during her talk with Emma at the university (which she will do if you leveled her correctly and followed the advice earlier) Emma will be open.

Though I gotta admit I am talking theory here, since I don't want to do an "Emma only" run and so far failed to bring her into the fold. Gonna start a new NG+ soon-ish probably, waiting for certain updates to be announced.

 

[D.Raven Productions]

ive asked multiple times and last time i even posted my save file im still having issues with Samantha not showing up at all on saturday afternoon for her revenge path multiple saturdays and still nothing someone please help me with this

 

[snookums.d.panda]

Apart from the "getting to know the game" stuff I wrote before, I'd also argue that waiting with Emma for a NG+ run makes things incredibly more easy. (1) You have the money so you don't need to work - which will stop Cassidy since no promotion -> no party -> no Cassidy. (2) You can opt for the "lucky" trait (which is definitely not recommended for a first game) or at least avoid the "unlucky" bad trait, speeding up Emma immensely.

Interesting part of this is that you can still work and slow down the progression of the next promotion, since one of Shiori's random work events is her asking to go home and take care of her son, which drops the work score by 5%. I've also had it pop up 3 times in a day. Probably not ideal for a first run to be honest, but you can still get some money coming in.

Point (1) isn't that bad, however - do not start the harem, do not gift Bree a collar.

You should be set then, as long as Bree "behaves" during her talk with Emma at the university (which she will do if you leveled her correctly and followed the advice earlier) Emma will be open.

I did it this way on a previous run, but found it's a bit too much of a "Dance in this specific manner under a blood moon, but only if a goat..." style of complicated where it's not very clear how Emma takes it (as well as being far enough from her decision if you're unlucky and in the wrong season), so it's just a lot simpler to not sleep with Bree for the guaranteed point in your favour. Plus it stalls her progression (at least on the maid path) so there's no accidental changing in status, not to mention Bree's really easy to level up.

Though I gotta admit I am talking theory here, since I don't want to do an "Emma only" run and so far failed to bring her into the fold. Gonna start a new NG+ soon-ish probably, waiting for certain updates to be announced.

Oh, this isn't an Emma only run btw. I'm definitely in full theory craft mode right now, and while I reset my save back to winter to do things properly, there's been no lack of cheese during this play though. Hell, because I've acquired the habit of leaving the house by the bathroom window, there's probably quite the backlog of living room events that I've been avoiding.

 

[PhoenixRage23]

While I certainly respect your enthusiasm in regards to chatting with the pretty girls in the face of mortal danger, I can tell you that Kylie's stabby meter only fills up when you actively interact with the ladies via the buttons. The random hello/event that can trigger when you walk into an area usually doesn't count. So that's not the tricky part.

Fun fact that's not really mentioned in the wiki: Trying to friendzone Kylie will give you the 25 Yandere points you need for the harem. This would be the safest way to get them in this regard ('safe' being a relative term considering it's Kylie), so you can focus on raising her Sub points.

Also, are you sure you got all the prereqs to start the Harem? In my last run I found myself wondering why it wasn't triggering, before realizing I had completely forgotten to have sex with Ayesha...

I have the required Yandere points for her and have had sex and dates with Ayesha. The wiki states that kissing Ayesha in front of her in the gym will also fulfill part of the requirements. For some reason I can't get Kylie to target Ayesha in the gym even with the requirements met for the stats.

I'm not really sure how to get the flag triggered to get Kylie to target Ayesha so the MC hears the fight in the gym bathroom to intervene.

 

[PhoenixRage23]

ive asked multiple times and last time i even posted my save file im still having issues with Samantha not showing up at all on saturday afternoon for her revenge path multiple saturdays and still nothing someone please help me with this

Have you followed the wiki exactly for that paticular path? I had to go back to an earlier save myself and follow it exactly for her to show up on Saturdays. If you don't start following Path D (Revenge) then it won't continue to Path E (Breakup) then on to Path A. I got very confused myself the first time I tried. I actually started the game over just to get her storyline how I wanted it.

 

[PhoenixRage23]

I'll just give up trying to figure out the trigger to set off the Taming Harem. I don't know what to do even though I've met the requirements to trigger the flag to get Kylie to go after Ayesha in the gym. The only way to do it correctly is if I start the game over which I don't want to do again. Maybe the in the future Andrealphus will make it a little bit easier, but I won't hold my breath. Unless someone know the console command to change it.

 

[fisty123]

Been tempted in starting this one and I know there is some timed events (semi-NTR and so on) My question is if you miss the getting LP to 50 for a certain character and she has sex with someone else can you still get with that character?

I guess what I am asking is if one of the characters has sex with someone else are you still able to end up with them once you reach the requirements?

 

[gnadudu]

ive asked multiple times and last time i even posted my save file im still having issues with Samantha not showing up at all on saturday afternoon for her revenge path multiple saturdays and still nothing someone please help me with this

You did go for a walk during the wedding and pushed Sam back, which ends her storyline. It's a bug that the story tracker shows the revenge path if you did this...

 

[PhoenixRage23]

As far as I understand, dating Emma is pending future game development.

Even with her maxed out levels for love and kink she still can't be kissed. Hopefully we get to see that in the near future.

 

[Cartageno]

Been tempted in starting this one and I know there is some timed events (semi-NTR and so on) My question is if you miss the getting LP to 50 for a certain character and she has sex with someone else can you still get with that character?

I guess what I am asking is if one of the characters has sex with someone else are you still able to end up with them once you reach the requirements?

Yes, that would be no problem. As you may have gathered there are multiple ways to lose the chances at marrying a girl but this is not one of them.

 

[fisty123]

Yes, that would be no problem. As you may have gathered there are multiple ways to lose the chances at marrying a girl but this is not one of them.

Thank you for the clarification, will see if I can make time to start this one soon.

 

[MasterGamer1234567890]

Okay, right now, the only mutually exclusive characters are Camila and Kylie.

From the sounds of it, you're trying to get all the girls at the same time, and you're losing them because you aren't putting in the time to raise their stats. Want a harem? The girls in question need to be really kinky, really love you and kinda get off on the idea of another woman in the mix. This is less the fault of the game and you rushing things instead.

Well. The game is designed in a way that you get a lot of girls at the same time, so of course I'm trying to level them all at the same time. That's what the game is designed for you to do.

 

[Cartageno]

Well. The game is designed in a way that you get a lot of girls at the same time, so of course I'm trying to level them all at the same time. That's what the game is designed for you to do.

Yes, but ...

(a) You really need to "level" them, meaning not rushing to the next possible event but trying to get their stats as good as possible for the time.

(b) When you notice that your strategy doesn't work for the game, it's time to adapt the strategy.

In the beginning I was playing just like you seem to do. Then I noticed it doesn't work and played a bit more focused. And now I can level them all again (except for damned Emma) because I understand how the mechanics work.

It's like many other things you do in life, you want it all and you will be able to do so, but you need to start small and do individual tasks separated from the whole. When you have them down, you can go on to do more stuff.

I think what Evil is trying to say is not "How stupid can you be to try to do all!" but "Try a little less to get the hang of it, not all at once". There is no judgment of your playstyle, just a hint at how to improve.

Yes, this is different from how many other games on here work. But that's not bad in itself, it is just different.

 

[MasterGamer1234567890]

But I would argue that changing this aspect wouldn't do much good. This is intentionally not a VN but a stat and time management game (I would argue that in a way the "management" tag is missing, but then again people would probably expect the wrong kind of management if it were there). People who support the dev or bought the game like it for that reason. Since I bought it I played I think five playthroughs - mostly not for seeing the scenes again but for the progression, the feeling of accomplishment when Sasha starts hinting again that she knows this one guy. I like that for once in a sandbox you do not just run around to unlock scene A or scene B in any order (thus sandbox) but you will unlock them.

I think you misunderstand my complaint. I'm not looking for a VN. I love the sandbox games. The only thing I complain about is that you can lose your girls without warning and there are no way to rectify it, except starting from scratch, which is pretty annoying after playing some 30+ hours.
Even for a sandbox game its possible to restore girls paths. If it's programmed right, it's parameter based, which means that the parameter removing the girl can be changed. It might have some unforeseen consequences on other girls paths, but I can live with that as long as I don't have to start over after 30+ hours of playing. The game is good, but not that good. After fucking the same girls 10 times, it does get quite boring, even that you can do her different ways and in different places.

 

[Cartageno]

I think you misunderstand my complaint. I'm not looking for a VN. I love the sandbox games. The only thing I complain about is that you can lose your girls without warning and there are no way to rectify it, except starting from scratch, which is pretty annoying after playing some 30+ hours.
Even for a sandbox game its possible to restore girls paths. If it's programmed right, it's parameter based, which means that the parameter removing the girl can be changed. It might have some unforeseen consequences on other girls paths, but I can live with that as long as I don't have to start over after 30+ hours of playing. The game is good, but not that good. After fucking the same girls 10 times, it does get quite boring, even that you can do her different ways and in different places.

I understood, at least I think. I just don't agree about the "programmed right" part. Of course it would be possible to make a game with a "redemption path" if you effed up, but the possibility of permanent consequences which are not undoable also has its own charm - it's why Roguelikes exist, it's why Ironman runs (name might be different for individual games, basically no individual saving except for when leaving the game, so no undoing mistakes by saving then loading) are popular in certain circles.

And yes, I do get that you don't want to replay a longer game just for this one thing, I am in the same boat depending on the game. However, here I am looking forward to spending my next 30+ hours. Because, while this is a cliché it is true for me in this case, for me the journey is more interesting than the destination, even though the journey is about reaching the destination. That's personal taste of course - but what would make the game more interesting to you would make it less interesting to me.

 

[MasterGamer1234567890]

(a) You really need to "level" them, meaning not rushing to the next possible event but trying to get their stats as good as possible for the time.

(c) It's like many other things you do in life, you want it all and you will be able to do so, but you need to start small and do individual tasks separated from the whole. When you have them down, you can go on to do more stuff.

(d) Yes, this is different from how many other games on here work. But that's not bad in itself, it is just different.

(a) Again you are misunderstanding what I'm writing. Maybe because English isn't my first language. With leveling, i mean getting their stats up and then move to next event.

(c) This isn't real life. It's a game.

(d) And I really like it's not like the 1000 others. I just want a way to fix your mistakes without having to start from scratch or at least a warning that your action will mean you will lose a girl. Like I wrote in the beginning. Sometimes you can't rollback long enough to undo your action or you don't notice that you have lost a girl before it's too late.