VN Ren'Py Love Strikes Thrice [E.1] [Renofrome]

[soemantri9]

3 protagonis? Yikess sound like bad news here... Even multi-protag already big No from me and what a weird answer with " Because love strike thrice" Lmao... And im worried with development here gonna be time bomb here when u said some excuse like "burnout" In later date

 

[renofrome]

Multiple. Protagonists. Boo. Did that scare ya?

Let's start with a mental exercise. Suppose we have a cake in front of us. We split the cake into three parts. Now, do you think we have three times more cake than what we had originally, or is it the same amount of cake merely split into three?

Development time would be roughly the same as your average AVN, maybe even shorter. I don't plan on spending a decade working on this game, a liberate estimate is 2 years start to finish. Script is way ahead than you think. I have enough material to last me Episode 3 or 4 at this moment if I don't write. But since I'll keep writing in between releases, I can always stay ahead and only have to worry about rendering, animations, and music/sfx.

But why three protagonists, why not just one? REEEEEE. I'm a writer, first and foremost, and I just think it's a fun writing exercise. Imagine how boring the AVN space is if literally every. single. game is a harem. New upload, new game, I wonder what it's about. Harem? Cool. New release, I wonder- oh, it's a harem. Okay. Third time's the charm? Let's open the box and see... that it's a harem. I do dabble in those games sometimes and I don't hate it, they're fun actually, but variety is always welcome, I say. There's three protagonists because I can do it, and I'm not getting paid not to do it. It's an interesting scenario to try out at least once, don't you think?

Rarely do I see a group of people who can talk and spend so much time about something they don't like. Gentlemen, if I dislike something, I move on to something else that I like. It's 2026, and it's not like we're at the natal stage of AVNs, that we don't have any other choice. I wouldn't say it sucks that you're not playing my game, because if you simply looked at a single tag, without looking at the LIs, the synopsis, or downloaded and played the game first (for free, mind you) before you've convinced yourself that this game is not for you, then why should I bother convincing you to play? There have already been people who've talked less, played my game, and said they like it, and I'm grateful for that and cherish them.

Going back to the game, the stories are mostly self-contained. At the end of the development cycle, I do like the idea of having the option to jump to the story of an MC straight away, without playing the previous ones. If you haven't played the game at least once, you might miss out on character introductions and developments, but each MC is written to ensure a solid love story with your chosen LI from start to finish. Now what if you don't like an MC, and only like this certain one, why bother playing further? You're right. Why bother playing at all? If you don't like it, you take what you have and call it a day. Game ends there for you. All of it is subjective, and I'm glad you played the game, and you liked one of the MCs I've written. It's nothing new. People have stopped watching a certain series at a season when their favorite character's not there anymore.

To those who've already played my game and loved it, thank you. To those who wish me good luck, thank you. To those who are neutral and are waiting for the game to develop first, thank you. To those who like my designs, and while they think this game's not for them, but are interested in a future project: I've been cooking early drafts of a Dark Fantasy game. No multiple protagonists this time. By the way, I'd like to emphasize now that this won't affect the development of Love Strikes Thrice. Read it again. Early. Draft.

I'm also very active in my social media accounts, and you'll see frequent devlogs and postings, if you're interested in following the development.

Now I'll leave you all with some words from Seneca: "We suffer more often in imagination than in reality."

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Multiple. Protagonists. Boo. Did that scare ya?

Let's start with a mental exercise. Suppose we have a cake in front of us. We split the cake into three parts. Now, do you think we have three times more cake than what we had originally, or is it the same amount of cake merely split into three?

Development time would be roughly the same as your average AVN, maybe even shorter. I don't plan on spending a decade working on this game, a liberate estimate is 2 years start to finish. Script is way ahead than you think. I have enough material to last me Episode 3 or 4 at this moment if I don't write. But since I'll keep writing in between releases, I can always stay ahead and only have to worry about rendering, animations, and music/sfx.

But why three protagonists, why not just one? REEEEEE. I'm a writer, first and foremost, and I just think it's a fun writing exercise. Imagine how boring the AVN space is if literally every. single. game is a harem. New upload, new game, I wonder what it's about. Harem? Cool. New release, I wonder- oh, it's a harem. Okay. Third time's the charm? Let's open the box and see... that it's a harem. I do dabble in those games sometimes and I don't hate it, they're fun actually, but variety is always welcome, I say. There's three protagonists because I can do it, and I'm not getting paid not to do it. It's an interesting scenario to try out at least once, don't you think?

Rarely do I see a group of people who can talk and spend so much time about something they don't like. Gentlemen, if I dislike something, I move on to something else that I like. It's 2026, and it's not like we're at the natal stage of AVNs, that we don't have any other choice. I wouldn't say it sucks that you're not playing my game, because if you simply looked at a single tag, without looking at the LIs, the synopsis, or downloaded and played the game first (for free, mind you) before you've convinced yourself that this game is not for you, then why should I bother convincing you to play? There have already been people who've talked less, played my game, and said they like it, and I'm grateful for that and cherish them.

Going back to the game, the stories are mostly self-contained. At the end of the development cycle, I do like the idea of having the option to jump to the story of an MC straight away, without playing the previous ones. If you haven't played the game at least once, you might miss out on character introductions and developments, but each MC is written to ensure a solid love story with your chosen LI from start to finish. Now what if you don't like an MC, and only like this certain one, why bother playing further? You're right. Why bother playing at all? If you don't like it, you take what you have and call it a day. Game ends there for you. All of it is subjective, and I'm glad you played the game, and you liked one of the MCs I've written. It's nothing new. People have stopped watching a certain series at a season when their favorite character's not there anymore.

To those who've already played my game and loved it, thank you. To those who wish me good luck, thank you. To those who are neutral and are waiting for the game to develop first, thank you. To those who like my designs, and while they think this game's not for them, but are interested in a future project: I've been cooking early drafts of a Dark Fantasy game. No multiple protagonists this time. By the way, I'd like to emphasize now that this won't affect the development of Love Strikes Thrice. Read it again. Early. Draft.

I'm also very active in my social media accounts, and you'll see frequent devlogs and postings, if you're interested in following the development.

Now I'll leave you all with some words from Seneca: "We suffer more often in imagination than in reality."

Can we make MC 2 and 3 have no sex scenes?

 

[duckydoodoo]

Multiple. Protagonists. Boo. Did that scare ya?

Let's start with a mental exercise. Suppose we have a cake in front of us. We split the cake into three parts. Now, do you think we have three times more cake than what we had originally, or is it the same amount of cake merely split into three?

womp womp womp. the MC isnt split into 3 pieces, its literally 3 different cakes, made by 1 baker. you suck at analogies.

and i dont even care about the multi protags. but just cant let this explanation slide.

furthermore, if it were 1 cake then every LI would be banging the same MC

and on a last note, the cake analogy is often used for convince people to share an LI, as in 1 cake, everyone gets a slice and you dont mind, so why care when other dudes are fucking your girl.

 

[MorteRivenditore]

womp womp womp. the MC isnt split into 3 pieces, its literally 3 different cakes, made by 1 baker. you suck at analogies.

and i dont even care about the multi protags. but just cant let this explanation slide.

furthermore, if it were 1 cake then every LI would be banging the same MC

and on a last note, the cake analogy is often used for convince people to share an LI, as in 1 cake, everyone gets a slice and you dont mind, so why care when other dudes are fucking your girl.

No the cake is the game, what the dev means by 'split it into 3' is that the game we have 3 parts (clearly), each part will be make in sequence (one after the other), and it will be the SAME size as a game (maybe large but still), and ya.

Also for your 'if it as one cake' thing ? what are you smoking? Just cause its rom the same game doesnt mean all the MC's have to fuck the same girls? as the dev states and i said they all have a DIFFERENT set of 3 UNIQUE girls. SO its not NTR your just hating on a game to hate on it, and doing a shitty job of rage baiting

 

[FnB Productions]

Multiple. Protagonists. Boo. Did that scare ya?

Let's start with a mental exercise. Suppose we have a cake in front of us. We split the cake into three parts. Now, do you think we have three times more cake than what we had originally, or is it the same amount of cake merely split into three?

Development time would be roughly the same as your average AVN, maybe even shorter. I don't plan on spending a decade working on this game, a liberate estimate is 2 years start to finish. Script is way ahead than you think. I have enough material to last me Episode 3 or 4 at this moment if I don't write. But since I'll keep writing in between releases, I can always stay ahead and only have to worry about rendering, animations, and music/sfx.

But why three protagonists, why not just one? REEEEEE. I'm a writer, first and foremost, and I just think it's a fun writing exercise. Imagine how boring the AVN space is if literally every. single. game is a harem. New upload, new game, I wonder what it's about. Harem? Cool. New release, I wonder- oh, it's a harem. Okay. Third time's the charm? Let's open the box and see... that it's a harem. I do dabble in those games sometimes and I don't hate it, they're fun actually, but variety is always welcome, I say. There's three protagonists because I can do it, and I'm not getting paid not to do it. It's an interesting scenario to try out at least once, don't you think?

Rarely do I see a group of people who can talk and spend so much time about something they don't like. Gentlemen, if I dislike something, I move on to something else that I like. It's 2026, and it's not like we're at the natal stage of AVNs, that we don't have any other choice. I wouldn't say it sucks that you're not playing my game, because if you simply looked at a single tag, without looking at the LIs, the synopsis, or downloaded and played the game first (for free, mind you) before you've convinced yourself that this game is not for you, then why should I bother convincing you to play? There have already been people who've talked less, played my game, and said they like it, and I'm grateful for that and cherish them.

Going back to the game, the stories are mostly self-contained. At the end of the development cycle, I do like the idea of having the option to jump to the story of an MC straight away, without playing the previous ones. If you haven't played the game at least once, you might miss out on character introductions and developments, but each MC is written to ensure a solid love story with your chosen LI from start to finish. Now what if you don't like an MC, and only like this certain one, why bother playing further? You're right. Why bother playing at all? If you don't like it, you take what you have and call it a day. Game ends there for you. All of it is subjective, and I'm glad you played the game, and you liked one of the MCs I've written. It's nothing new. People have stopped watching a certain series at a season when their favorite character's not there anymore.

To those who've already played my game and loved it, thank you. To those who wish me good luck, thank you. To those who are neutral and are waiting for the game to develop first, thank you. To those who like my designs, and while they think this game's not for them, but are interested in a future project: I've been cooking early drafts of a Dark Fantasy game. No multiple protagonists this time. By the way, I'd like to emphasize now that this won't affect the development of Love Strikes Thrice. Read it again. Early. Draft.

I'm also very active in my social media accounts, and you'll see frequent devlogs and postings, if you're interested in following the development.

Now I'll leave you all with some words from Seneca: "We suffer more often in imagination than in reality."

Well said. Genuinely so excited to try this one out! the idea of a story following multiple different perspectives will give us a ton of depth. I'll leave a review once I'm done ^-^

 

[duckydoodoo]

No the cake is the game, what the dev means by 'split it into 3' is that the game we have 3 parts (clearly), each part will be make in sequence (one after the other), and it will be the SAME size as a game (maybe large but still), and ya.

Also for your 'if it as one cake' thing ? what are you smoking? Just cause its rom the same game doesnt mean all the MC's have to fuck the same girls? as the dev states and i said they all have a DIFFERENT set of 3 UNIQUE girls. SO its not NTR your just hating on a game to hate on it, and doing a shitty job of rage baiting

lol, where did i say i hate the game. i said the analogy sucks. thats it.

thanks for proving my point though.
how easily you assumed i was hating on the game when i brought up the cake reference to ntr. imagine ntr haters seeing it.

people are going to misread it and probably ignore the wall of text. thats just my opinion, and one based on experience in these forums. i comment on just about every genre of game here, when i see something i agree with or like, i say so, when i think something is counter productive or stupid, i say so. its a forum, thats its purpose. solid white knighting though

 

[MorteRivenditore]

lol, where did i say i hate the game. i said the analogy sucks. thats it.

thanks for proving my point though.
how easily you assumed i was hating on the game when i brought up the cake reference to ntr. imagine ntr haters seeing it.

people are going to misread it and probably ignore the wall of text. thats just my opinion, and one based on experience in these forums. i comment on just about every genre of game here, when i see something i agree with or like, i say so, when i think something is counter productive or stupid, i say so. its a forum, thats its purpose. solid white knighting though

Im not white knighting im commenting on waht you said and using your own words against you in a discussion thats not white knighting that is pointing out the flaw in your logic. The way you worded things it sounds like your were trying to rage bait because it was so badly dont and written that it couldnt be anything else but an attempt to rage bait.
" womp womp womp. the MC isnt split into 3 pieces, its literally 3 different cakes, made by 1 baker. you suck at analogies."
"womp womp womp' and the way your trying to spin his appropriat anology (one cake split into 3) being the GAME is the cake, and the pieces are the MC's stories. If you think that doesnt work then ..... damn sorry for your lack there of thought process.

"furthermore, if it were 1 cake then every LI would be banging the same MC" another stupid comment, people within a story can bang whoevr they bang and it has NOTHING to do with the MC. SO the MC's mom is banging his dad is that NTR for the MC? NO its not. NTR is basically the MC is getting cucked or HIS gf is fucking someone else etc. Just cause his neighbor fucks their boyfriend behind th scenes doesnt make it NTR SO your whole 'if it was one cake' is just dumb. The CAKE is the story, the game, etc.

 

[duckydoodoo]

Im not white knighting im commenting on waht you said and using your own words against you in a discussion thats not white knighting that is pointing out the flaw in your logic. The way you worded things it sounds like your were trying to rage bait because it was so badly dont and written that it couldnt be anything else but an attempt to rage bait.
" womp womp womp. the MC isnt split into 3 pieces, its literally 3 different cakes, made by 1 baker. you suck at analogies."
"womp womp womp' and the way your trying to spin his appropriat anology (one cake split into 3) being the GAME is the cake, and the pieces are the MC's stories. If you think that doesnt work then ..... damn sorry for your lack there of thought process.

"furthermore, if it were 1 cake then every LI would be banging the same MC" another stupid comment, people within a story can bang whoevr they bang and it has NOTHING to do with the MC. SO the MC's mom is banging his dad is that NTR for the MC? NO its not. NTR is basically the MC is getting cucked or HIS gf is fucking someone else etc. Just cause his neighbor fucks their boyfriend behind th scenes doesnt make it NTR SO your whole 'if it was one cake' is just dumb. The CAKE is the story, the game, etc.

the cake is a bad analogy. people are going to misinterpret it. thats what im saying. you are so busy being right you keep missing it. keep on keeping on though, i love a good laugh

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Multiple. Protagonists. Boo. Did that scare ya?

Let's start with a mental exercise. Suppose we have a cake in front of us. We split the cake into three parts. Now, do you think we have three times more cake than what we had originally, or is it the same amount of cake merely split into three?

Development time would be roughly the same as your average AVN, maybe even shorter. I don't plan on spending a decade working on this game, a liberate estimate is 2 years start to finish. Script is way ahead than you think. I have enough material to last me Episode 3 or 4 at this moment if I don't write. But since I'll keep writing in between releases, I can always stay ahead and only have to worry about rendering, animations, and music/sfx.

But why three protagonists, why not just one? REEEEEE. I'm a writer, first and foremost, and I just think it's a fun writing exercise. Imagine how boring the AVN space is if literally every. single. game is a harem. New upload, new game, I wonder what it's about. Harem? Cool. New release, I wonder- oh, it's a harem. Okay. Third time's the charm? Let's open the box and see... that it's a harem. I do dabble in those games sometimes and I don't hate it, they're fun actually, but variety is always welcome, I say. There's three protagonists because I can do it, and I'm not getting paid not to do it. It's an interesting scenario to try out at least once, don't you think?

Rarely do I see a group of people who can talk and spend so much time about something they don't like. Gentlemen, if I dislike something, I move on to something else that I like. It's 2026, and it's not like we're at the natal stage of AVNs, that we don't have any other choice. I wouldn't say it sucks that you're not playing my game, because if you simply looked at a single tag, without looking at the LIs, the synopsis, or downloaded and played the game first (for free, mind you) before you've convinced yourself that this game is not for you, then why should I bother convincing you to play? There have already been people who've talked less, played my game, and said they like it, and I'm grateful for that and cherish them.

Going back to the game, the stories are mostly self-contained. At the end of the development cycle, I do like the idea of having the option to jump to the story of an MC straight away, without playing the previous ones. If you haven't played the game at least once, you might miss out on character introductions and developments, but each MC is written to ensure a solid love story with your chosen LI from start to finish. Now what if you don't like an MC, and only like this certain one, why bother playing further? You're right. Why bother playing at all? If you don't like it, you take what you have and call it a day. Game ends there for you. All of it is subjective, and I'm glad you played the game, and you liked one of the MCs I've written. It's nothing new. People have stopped watching a certain series at a season when their favorite character's not there anymore.

To those who've already played my game and loved it, thank you. To those who wish me good luck, thank you. To those who are neutral and are waiting for the game to develop first, thank you. To those who like my designs, and while they think this game's not for them, but are interested in a future project: I've been cooking early drafts of a Dark Fantasy game. No multiple protagonists this time. By the way, I'd like to emphasize now that this won't affect the development of Love Strikes Thrice. Read it again. Early. Draft.

I'm also very active in my social media accounts, and you'll see frequent devlogs and postings, if you're interested in following the development.

Now I'll leave you all with some words from Seneca: "We suffer more often in imagination than in reality."

Ducky here makes a good point about the cake analogy, so I'll not address that, but I would like to address some other things you said.

womp womp womp. the MC isnt split into 3 pieces, its literally 3 different cakes, made by 1 baker. you suck at analogies.

and i dont even care about the multi protags. but just cant let this explanation slide.

furthermore, if it were 1 cake then every LI would be banging the same MC

and on a last note, the cake analogy is often used for convince people to share an LI, as in 1 cake, everyone gets a slice and you dont mind, so why care when other dudes are fucking your girl.

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At the end of the day, I never want any developer to fail or give up, and I hope you find success whatever your choices and even if you may or may not care or agree with anything I said. I know you're a fellow person out there in the real world. Which I think one of the problems on a lot of forums is how often users dehumanize each other.

 

[MorteRivenditore]

Ducky here makes a good point about the cake analogy, so I'll not address that, but I would like to address some other things you said.


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At the end of the day, I never want any developer to fail or give up, and I hope you find success whatever your choices and even if you may or may not care or agree with anything I said. I know you're a fellow person out there in the real world. Which I think one of the problems on a lot of forums is how often users dehumanize each other.

TO correct that was ME who made the thrice pyrimid anology not the dev BUT at least your explaining shit and have valid points to bring up. (im not the dev just a player who played the game and passed on info i seen). Some of what i say is my own personal opinion, and yea some of what the dev said could be said to be sarcastic, but lets be real, a lot of people have kept saying 'its just NTR without the tag' type shit which isnt true in the slightest. People push ntr ntr ntr yet they dont even use the actual meaning of the word. Like on f95 so many think its NTR if a dude has sex off screen with a girl thats not even a LI which isnt even true, so when people say shit like 'oh its got 3 MC's so your just going to cuck/ntr yourself' i find that stupid. Specially when its confirmed each MC has 3 LI's that are for them and them alone. THAT is when i personally will say that what someone says is dumb.

As for the "sarcastic comments" to some who ask the questions, like i said before it can be seen as sarcastic, but put yourself in the devs shoes. If someone was ACTUALLY asking questions they would ask for example 'will the game have ntr or will the MC's share LI's', which was answered. The sarcastic isnt to ALL who are asking about those its to those who want to twist a premise to label it as NTR when its been asked and answered. THATS the problem with f95 SOOO many people will come onto threads and post shit to rage bait, troll, or just get a rise from the community / dev / players. And honestly I see Ducky as doing that based on the wording. Instead of saying "hey the analogy doesnt work well, i think you should use this an analogy" Ducky went 'womp womp womp' etc. That's textbook rage bait/trolling. It has no place its not constructive it serves no purpous other then to 'hate'. If people would go into detail and be like 'hey x y z cause this and that' type thing im sure the dev would be MORE than happy to have conversations about it BUT till you it hasnt been 'constructive' in any way.Is your 100% constuctive No BUT you made a concious effort to ACTUALLY explain shit your reasonings and hell you through in your own analogy. While i personally think the cake works fine it wont work for everyone and thats fine.

The analogy is like opinions everyone has one, and some opinions wont work for others because everyone is unique. The sam goes for analogies. The same goes for what people will like and dont like, or think or dont think. SO while i see nothing wrong with what the dev said, i can understand others may think of the dev as being sarcastic or some may say that the dev is being a dick BUT i dont see it that way. And i have listed whyi think its fine above.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

TO correct that was ME who made the thrice pyrimid anology not the dev BUT at least your explaining shit and have valid points to bring up. (im not the dev just a player who played the game and passed on info i seen). Some of what i say is my own personal opinion, and yea some of what the dev said could be said to be sarcastic, but lets be real, a lot of people have kept saying 'its just NTR without the tag' type shit which isnt true in the slightest. People push ntr ntr ntr yet they dont even use the actual meaning of the word. Like on f95 so many think its NTR if a dude has sex off screen with a girl thats not even a LI which isnt even true, so when people say shit like 'oh its got 3 MC's so your just going to cuck/ntr yourself' i find that stupid. Specially when its confirmed each MC has 3 LI's that are for them and them alone. THAT is when i personally will say that what someone says is dumb.

As for the "sarcastic comments" to some who ask the questions, like i said before it can be seen as sarcastic, but put yourself in the devs shoes. If someone was ACTUALLY asking questions they would ask for example 'will the game have ntr or will the MC's share LI's', which was answered. The sarcastic isnt to ALL who are asking about those its to those who want to twist a premise to label it as NTR when its been asked and answered. THATS the problem with f95 SOOO many people will come onto threads and post shit to rage bait, troll, or just get a rise from the community / dev / players. And honestly I see Ducky as doing that based on the wording. Instead of saying "hey the analogy doesnt work well, i think you should use this an analogy" Ducky went 'womp womp womp' etc. That's textbook rage bait/trolling. It has no place its not constructive it serves no purpous other then to 'hate'. If people would go into detail and be like 'hey x y z cause this and that' type thing im sure the dev would be MORE than happy to have conversations about it BUT till you it hasnt been 'constructive' in any way.Is your 100% constuctive No BUT you made a concious effort to ACTUALLY explain shit your reasonings and hell you through in your own analogy. While i personally think the cake works fine it wont work for everyone and thats fine.

The analogy is like opinions everyone has one, and some opinions wont work for others because everyone is unique. The sam goes for analogies. The same goes for what people will like and dont like, or think or dont think. SO while i see nothing wrong with what the dev said, i can understand others may think of the dev as being sarcastic or some may say that the dev is being a dick BUT i dont see it that way. And i have listed whyi think its fine above.

That's fair, if I was talking about something you said and not the developer. I thought when you put that you were sharing a quote from the developer. So that is understood now.

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I can acknowledge that some people might have come across as more combative than others, but there is cause for it in many respects. For example, you comment on Ducky's response, however his mildly sarcastic use of "womp womp," was in response to the developer's own, seemingly, sarcastic and dismissive response, so he was, in many respects, just matching the perceived energy being given. Others were, again perhaps fairly or unfairly, also carrying in baggage from other games and developers where they use multiple protagonists to slip in NTR and other such fetishes. And since they didn't know what the intention was, or how the implementation would be, people filled in the gaps in their mind with past experiences and their concerns from how they have seen it done before. There is also the fact that the developer and others are lumping criticism about the lack of harems for the main characters with criticism for the use of multiple protagonists in general which wasn't exactly helpful either as those are two different criticisms (let alone the third separate concern that multiple protagonists could be used to sneak in NTR). As, unless I am mistake, I believe at least one of the users who complained about the multiple protagonists I have seen in other threads comment on how they prefer monogamy to harems. And likewise, I myself just commented on how I think three protagonists each getting a harem of three girls could be interesting depending on execution, and I know some others likely feel that way too. So, the conflation (intentionally or otherwise) of two or three different criticisms and concerns can also add to the feeling from some that they are being dismissed, misrepresented, or not taken seriously. Which then adds to their responses becoming more combative as well.

Also, I am a developer (though my game would violate a rule or two on the site so will never appear here) and I have also written for many games that are on the site. A few of which are in my signature. I have also written novels and even taught creative writing for a time. I have also worked in a several other vocations. So, believe me when I say, I have faced down criticism in this forum and in other places for my work in many fields. And I never replied in combative, sarcastic, or dismissive tones. Criticism is an normal part of life, both deserved and undeserved.

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But, all that aside, I do understand why the dev may have responded how he or she did, if they felt that people were being unfair in their questions and criticisms. And even that they may not have intended it to come across the way it did to me and seemingly others. So, we'll see how it all plays out, no hard feelings to any one and best wishes to all,

 

[MorteRivenditore]

That's fair, if I was talking about something you said and not the developer. I thought when you put that you were sharing a quote from the developer. So that is understood now.

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I can acknowledge that some people might have come across as more combative than others, but there is cause for it in many respects. For example, you comment on Ducky's response, however his mildly sarcastic use of "womp womp," was in response to the developer's own, seemingly, sarcastic and dismissive response, so he was, in many respects, just matching the perceived energy being given. Others were, again perhaps fairly or unfairly, also carrying in baggage from other games and developers where they use multiple protagonists to slip in NTR and other such fetishes. And since they didn't know what the intention was, or how the implementation would be, people filled in the gaps in their mind with past experiences and their concerns from how they have seen it done before. There is also the fact that the developer and others are lumping criticism about the lack of harems for the main characters with criticism for the use of multiple protagonists in general which wasn't exactly helpful either as those are two different criticisms (let alone the third separate concern that multiple protagonists could be used to sneak in NTR). As, unless I am mistake, I believe at least one of the users who complained about the multiple protagonists I have seen in other threads comment on how they prefer monogamy to harems. And likewise, I myself just commented on how I think three protagonists each getting a harem of three girls could be interesting depending on execution, and I know some others likely feel that way too. So, the conflation (intentionally or otherwise) of two or three different criticisms and concerns can also add to the feeling from some that they are being dismissed, misrepresented, or not taken seriously. Which then adds to their responses becoming more combative as well.

Also, I am a developer (though my game would violate a rule or two on the site so will never appear here) and I have also written for many games that are on the site. A few of which are in my signature. I have also written novels and even taught creative writing for a time. I have also worked in a several other vocations. So, believe me when I say, I have faced down criticism in this forum and in other places for my work in many fields. And I never replied in combative, sarcastic, or dismissive tones. Criticism is an normal part of life, both deserved and undeserved.

Since it goes into other games and stories I'll put further info about my experience as a writer here on the forums in a spoiler tab:

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But, all that aside, I do understand why the dev may have responded how he or she did, if they felt that people were being unfair in their questions and criticisms. And even that they may not have intended it to come across the way it did to me and seemingly others. So, we'll see how it all plays out, no hard feelings to any one and best wishes to all,

Yea i get what you mean, idk to be honest, even if the definition in japan etc says that it could be NTR if it hapened off screen i dont 100% agree with it. Like yea it would be NTR if it hapened off screen and in front of the MC BUT if it happened off screen, and the MC wasnt present (im not counting if the MC was watching through a window cause thats not NTR thats just the MC spying on sex in my own opinion anyways), then that in my own opinion isnt NTR and someone trying to say the MC is getting cucked or NTR'd in my own opinion is dumb. Thats like saying 'yea my neighbors fucking their boyfriend and i dont know about it but i know its probably happning so im getting cucked' when there would be 0 chance of any romantic or sexual relation SO xD.

 

[MagicMan753]

Multiple. Protagonists. Boo. Did that scare ya?

Let's start with a mental exercise. Suppose we have a cake in front of us. We split the cake into three parts. Now, do you think we have three times more cake than what we had originally, or is it the same amount of cake merely split into three?

Development time would be roughly the same as your average AVN, maybe even shorter. I don't plan on spending a decade working on this game, a liberate estimate is 2 years start to finish. Script is way ahead than you think. I have enough material to last me Episode 3 or 4 at this moment if I don't write. But since I'll keep writing in between releases, I can always stay ahead and only have to worry about rendering, animations, and music/sfx.

But why three protagonists, why not just one? REEEEEE. I'm a writer, first and foremost, and I just think it's a fun writing exercise. Imagine how boring the AVN space is if literally every. single. game is a harem. New upload, new game, I wonder what it's about. Harem? Cool. New release, I wonder- oh, it's a harem. Okay. Third time's the charm? Let's open the box and see... that it's a harem. I do dabble in those games sometimes and I don't hate it, they're fun actually, but variety is always welcome, I say. There's three protagonists because I can do it, and I'm not getting paid not to do it. It's an interesting scenario to try out at least once, don't you think?

Rarely do I see a group of people who can talk and spend so much time about something they don't like. Gentlemen, if I dislike something, I move on to something else that I like. It's 2026, and it's not like we're at the natal stage of AVNs, that we don't have any other choice. I wouldn't say it sucks that you're not playing my game, because if you simply looked at a single tag, without looking at the LIs, the synopsis, or downloaded and played the game first (for free, mind you) before you've convinced yourself that this game is not for you, then why should I bother convincing you to play? There have already been people who've talked less, played my game, and said they like it, and I'm grateful for that and cherish them.

Going back to the game, the stories are mostly self-contained. At the end of the development cycle, I do like the idea of having the option to jump to the story of an MC straight away, without playing the previous ones. If you haven't played the game at least once, you might miss out on character introductions and developments, but each MC is written to ensure a solid love story with your chosen LI from start to finish. Now what if you don't like an MC, and only like this certain one, why bother playing further? You're right. Why bother playing at all? If you don't like it, you take what you have and call it a day. Game ends there for you. All of it is subjective, and I'm glad you played the game, and you liked one of the MCs I've written. It's nothing new. People have stopped watching a certain series at a season when their favorite character's not there anymore.

To those who've already played my game and loved it, thank you. To those who wish me good luck, thank you. To those who are neutral and are waiting for the game to develop first, thank you. To those who like my designs, and while they think this game's not for them, but are interested in a future project: I've been cooking early drafts of a Dark Fantasy game. No multiple protagonists this time. By the way, I'd like to emphasize now that this won't affect the development of Love Strikes Thrice. Read it again. Early. Draft.

I'm also very active in my social media accounts, and you'll see frequent devlogs and postings, if you're interested in following the development.

Now I'll leave you all with some words from Seneca: "We suffer more often in imagination than in reality."

Yeah, I am not one of the ones attacking or anything. I am more sad than anything just cause there are like 1 or two girls I really like the design of that I wish I could experience there story. And it is certainly unique, so good job on your part, I wish the best and hope it does find sucess.

I think my main issue comes to I like to self insert. I like to find a connection, become part of the those worlds. If I insert into one character, how would I play the other two, cause I wouldn't really care about their lives or to control them. I just treasure being a par tod the story fully, and 3 characters would counteract that for me.

But like I said, not going to change your mind, these are just my thoughts. But the Dark Fantasy novel does sound good and fun too, so I would definitely be down to check that out when it does drop in the future.

Either way like I said good luck on this game and hope your year is great and full of sucess.

 

[renofrome]

It truly is unfair, and my response and the tone it's been written in is deliberate, and is meant to be blunt to allay any sort of confusion. They act like I'm an absentee dev who's had three failed projects in the span of a year and trying to weasel in a fourth one. Whatever their problems are with previous devs/games are not my problem, and are irrelevant to this thread. That's something you solve on your own, not cope with it by trying to dogpile on a new dev and their debut game.

They act like I'm making some of the most vile content to ever appear in this site, when the literal tagline on the banner says "lighthearted romance." I'm sorry if I can't be more polite with my response, when as a dev that has no prior history with this community - no harm, malice, or financial loss done to them, yet they start with that unfair criticism.

Also it's one thing to suggest a minor change, but to try and change the core concept of the game (the multiple protagonists) is rather entitled. I suggest they find another game that's unlike this, which they'll have no problem and in fact, they'll stumble upon one as they set one foot out of the door. That's how saturated it is. I'm trying peddle my apples, in an apple stand that's clearly marked with the image of an apple and big letters that read "Apple" and we have people here pass by shaking their fists that I don't sell oranges.

If they let me breathe, do my thing first, maybe come back a few episodes later, then I might surprise them. Who knows. I might be selling apples now, but that doesn't mean I'm not open to adding oranges in the future (in a future project). Hell, there may even be grapes, mangoes, so there will be something for everyone.

Also, I recognize that there are sensible people in this thread, and I don't mean any offense to any of you. I have to put my foot down, because if I don't, no one will. I'm not an established dev that has a horde to my rescue at any given time.

 

[MorteRivenditore]

Yeah, I am not one of the ones attacking or anything. I am more sad than anything just cause there are like 1 or two girls I really like the design of that I wish I could experience there story. And it is certainly unique, so good job on your part, I wish the best and hope it does find sucess.

I think my main issue comes to I like to self insert. I like to find a connection, become part of the those worlds. If I insert into one character, how would I play the other two, cause I wouldn't really care about their lives or to control them. I just treasure being a par tod the story fully, and 3 characters would counteract that for me.

But like I said, not going to change your mind, these are just my thoughts. But the Dark Fantasy novel does sound good and fun too, so I would definitely be down to check that out when it does drop in the future.

Either way like I said good luck on this game and hope your year is great and full of sucess.

Yea your good theres just some you know will come or maybe have that arent like you me or say joe, where they can be like 'you know its not my cup of tea but good luck'.

This type of game isnt normally for me either usually, my cup of tea is usually Fantasy, harem, and if its not fantasy then the MC is usually something not ordinary like a supernatural being, or uses magic, or is a vamire, angel, demon, etc. I prefer stories that are 'not ordinary' because the real world is ordinary enough and for me games that get me 'out of the real world' are usually my go to.

That said even with that i personally did enjoy this so far, and i can say i had the same reservations about the 'multiple protagonist' thing, BUT the way i look at it (and this isnt me saying this is true JUST how my brain looks at it), is that each focus is a different version of myself, or a different me, or a different story. While these other aspects will be seen in the story i can kinda think 'hey im interating with myself or an altrnative version of myself that i cant control, BUT in the future i will be the one 'in control' and have a story from that prespective.
Do i think the non harem part sucks YEA cause id hate to have to pick BUT it is what it is, thats what multiple playthroughs are for, OR using something like URM to see all 'routes'.
A good example im going to use is Artemis. That game is a harem BUT its not at the same time cause guess what? it locks you out of choices or options based on your actions. i wont go into details but Artemis requires like or 4 playthroughs to have all 'routes' and thats not even the solo routes ... and thats SUPOSED to be a harem game for example SO eh.

The way i see everything is im enjoying the game now, and thats perfect, if i didnt id have been like 'well the game isnt for me but good luck'. If in the future it becomes not my thing, either when MC 2 or MC 3 comes into play then thats fine because well i enjoyed MC 1's story SO i got enjoyment out of it. Thats the way i look at it.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

It truly is unfair, and my response and the tone it's been written in is deliberate, and is meant to be blunt to allay any sort of confusion. They act like I'm an absentee dev who's had three failed projects in the span of a year and trying to weasel in a fourth one. Whatever their problems are with previous devs/games are not my problem, and are irrelevant to this thread. That's something you solve on your own, not cope with it by trying to dogpile on a new dev and their debut game.

They act like I'm making some of the most vile content to ever appear in this site, when the literal tagline on the banner says "lighthearted romance." I'm sorry if I can't be more polite with my response, when as a dev that has no prior history with this community - no harm, malice, or financial loss done to them, yet they start with that unfair criticism.

I suggest they find another game that's unlike this, which they'll have no problem and in fact, they'll stumble upon one as they set one foot out of the door. That's how saturated it is. I'm trying peddle my apples, in an apple stand that's clearly marked with the image of an apple and big letters that read "Apple" and we have people here pass by shaking their fists that I don't sell oranges.

If they let me breathe, do my thing first, maybe come back a few episodes later, then I might surprise them. Who knows. I might be selling apples now, but that doesn't mean I'm not open to adding oranges in the future (in a future project). Hell, there may even be grapes, mangoes, so there will be something for everyone.

Also, I recognize that there are sensible people in this thread, and I don't mean any offense to any of you. I have to put my foot down, because if I don't, no one will. I'm not an established dev that has a horde to my rescue at any given time.

I think that's fair. You feel as if some people have unfairly prejudged the game, and that's understandable. But if you'd be willing to have further discussion I'd like to make a few more comments:

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All that being said, I'll say again, that I hope you do well. All this was just my attempt to maybe bridge the divide and cover any misunderstandings. Not that I have perfect understanding or am right about everything of course, I could have also misread some things, but I think I have some good insight at least. I never like seeing anyone put off the hobby or devs abandon games or fail in their passions. I just also have strong opinions and like to rant and write essays, So while this game might not be for me, I hope you find your footing and can finish it out well and maybe the next one will be. We could do with some dark fantasy that isn't filled with NTR or such like the majority of them on the site are.

 

[MorteRivenditore]

I think that's fair. You feel as if some people have unfairly prejudged the game, and that's understandable. But if you'd be willing to have further discussion I'd like to make a few more comments:

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All that being said, I'll say again, that I hope you do well. All this was just my attempt to maybe bridge the divide and cover any misunderstandings. Not that I have perfect understanding or am right about everything of course, I could have also misread some things, but I think I have some good insight at least. I never like seeing anyone put off the hobby or devs abandon games or fail in their passions. I just also have strong opinions and like to rant and write essays, So while this game might not be for me, I hope you find your footing and can finish it out well and maybe the next one will be. We could do with some dark fantasy that isn't filled with NTR or such like the majority of them on the site are.

Okay i read MOST of what you said and yea what i said about each MC having 3 unique IS confirmed by him (the dev) in discord (ill attach a SS to 'show' it if i need to but yea). So there will be 3 per MC (all unique not the same girl for each). its not harem BUT there will be time to 'explore' the LI's and get to know them before you have to decide. SO you can still explore each charecter, their personality, sex possibly with them (maybe not always only the dev would know), and then later on (mid game roughly) you will chose a girl to be in a commitment with, and then yea. So from what renofrome said, youll have the chance to get to know each LI before you have to chose, which i like because it wont be like most where its like 'hey its episode 2 time to chose a girl' when you dont even know them. SO if your the type that likes to play all routes it will be MUCH easier since you wont have to skip as much content up till that point to do multiple playthroughs .

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Okay i read MOST of what you said and yea what i said about each MC having 3 unique IS confirmed by him (the dev) in discord (ill attach a SS to 'show' it if i need to but yea). So there will be 3 per MC (all unique not the same girl for each). its not harem BUT there will be time to 'explore' the LI's and get to know them before you have to decide. SO you can still explore each charecter, their personality, sex possibly with them (maybe not always only the dev would know), and then later on (mid game roughly) you will chose a girl to be in a commitment with, and then yea. So from what renofrome said, youll have the chance to get to know each LI before you have to chose, which i like because it wont be like most where its like 'hey its episode 2 time to chose a girl' when you dont even know them. SO if your the type that likes to play all routes it will be MUCH easier since you wont have to skip as much content up till that point to do multiple playthroughs .

That's fair, I know I have a tendency to write a lot so no worries if you only skimmed it. Thanks for the info, still not for me though. Being able to have sexy time with the girls before being forced to pick isn't much better for me. I know some are fine with it, and that's cool. But it actually makes having to leave girls behind even harder for me, personally. But again, thanks for the info either way.

 

[MorteRivenditore]

That's fair, I know I have a tendency to write a lot so no worries if you only skimmed it. Thanks for the info, still not for me though. Being able to have sexy time with the girls before being forced to pick isn't much better for me. I know some are fine with it, and that's cool. But it actually makes having to leave girls behind even harder for me, personally. But again, thanks for the info either way.

yae i can relate i hate havin to pick but i tend to give games a try if they are recommended to me