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Is Ava NTR will be avoidable?
does not seem so, i cant say things are avoidable, when stuff is happening without the knowledge of the mc (if you're on ava andher sis path, but more into zoe, there will be a point when eva tells you some stuff that she did with a dude, and about a boss groping ( wich is fair she is innocent on that one) but still, things do happen in the background
 
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does not seem so, i cant say things are avoidable, when stuff is happening without the knowledge of the mc (if you're on ava andher sis path, but more into zoe, there will be a point when eva tells you some stuff that she did with a dude, and about a boss groping ( wich is fair she is innocent on that one) but still, things do happen in the background
I wanted to be sure because the author said But the Love route with the main girl will be completely NTR free. and Ava is the main girl?
 
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I wanted to be sure because the author said But the Love route with the main girl will be completely NTR free. and Ava is the main girl?
i guess? she had a fling with the MC in the past, their moms want them to marry... but hey she IS seeing another dude in the background. THAT IS A FACT, dont know who the guy is, but there is a picture of them together, and she tells you that she went in a "Love Hotel" room with the guy to "watch a movie".
 
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I'm surprised Ava quit her job just like that, I thought that place was going to be a more significant part of things... I even sorta remember in an earlier version the MC could decide not to comment on the touching and be chill about it.
Honestly I started the game with a Point system. With that choice Vanilla or NTR would have get an point on that choice. But I removed that point system so now it's more or less how the player wants to respond to that. It doesn't hurt so I kept it in the game.
 

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tbh thats how i feel also... i dont know, the game seems good and all but im still unsure about it, something feels off, i dont know if is some lack of agency( with choices), it seems the choices are more like, say yes if you're into that or no, yes to fuck or not... the MC to be a bit more clear also about what he likes or not, and/or let us choose it, in the future it will also be better for the game (trust me), if you make things clear from the beginning.
else good renders, the girls look great, story can say much about it so far, but will wait for next updates, gl!
There are choices that have an huge impact already and/or will have within the next updates.

Could you explain what do you mean with "make things clear from the beginning"? :oops: My stupid brain doesn't understand exactly what you mean by that. Sorry.

Thank you for giving it a try and for the feedback. <3
 
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does not seem so, i cant say things are avoidable, when stuff is happening without the knowledge of the mc (if you're on ava andher sis path, but more into zoe, there will be a point when eva tells you some stuff that she did with a dude, and about a boss groping ( wich is fair she is innocent on that one) but still, things do happen in the background
Indeed. There are things that happen in the background that can't be avoided. So far the only thing you can call NTR are the scenes with Lisa and that's because she has a boyfriend. But Ava's NTR part will be avoidable.
 

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There are choices that have an huge impact already and/or will have within the next updates.

Could you explain what do you mean with "make things clear from the beginning"? :oops: My stupid brain doesn't understand exactly what you mean by that. Sorry.

Thank you for giving it a try and for the feedback. <3
like for example, so far the relationships are not actually defined yet right? you are able to choose to see X person content/story, but nothing is set in stone correct?
by that, if you "want to see their story" with the options showed, sometimes the choices that might lead to ntr, are not very clear. as i think i talked a bit in my other post, i think it is mostly confusion to where that trigger is, what one might think is a friendly answer might actually lead to ntr, know what i mean?
 
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i guess? she had a fling with the MC in the past, their moms want them to marry... but hey she IS seeing another dude in the background. THAT IS A FACT, dont know who the guy is, but there is a picture of them together, and she tells you that she went in a "Love Hotel" room with the guy to "watch a movie".
That was during the time where MC is on his trip. The guy on the picture is just her colleague and a clingy guy that is in love with Ava.
 

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i might be just dumb, but wich decisions trigger that? i swear i dont know where is the "nope not that" xD
There is NTR off/On switch. I try to build a natural reaction to the decisions the player makes. For example.. If you meet ava at her work it will be more likely to be on the Love route. If you decide to go home to meet Zuni, it is more likely to be on Ava's NTR part. Same with the cheating decision in the Hospital. If you had sex on the road with lisa you can have sex with her again in the hospital. Did you go to meet Ava at work they become a couple and you can cheat on ava. Which is also a huge factor getting on Avas NTR path. And so on.
Last I want to add: The game is called Lovephobia. So I do intentionally bring up those things that might be a bit unpleasant. Like Ava and the Love hotel room, or mom maybe cheating or the picture of Ava and another guy. They doesn't mean cheating happened (at least yet). o_O
 
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There is NTR off/On switch. I try to build a natural reaction to the decisions the player makes. For example.. If you meet ava at her work it will be more likely to be on the Love route. If you decide to go home to meet Zuni, it is more likely to be on Ava's NTR part. Same with the cheating decision in the Hospital. If you had sex on the road with lisa you can have sex with her again in the hospital. Did you go to meet Ava at work they become a couple and you can cheat on ava. Which is also a huge factor getting on Avas NTR path. And so on.
Last I want to add: The game is called Lovephobia. So I do intentionally bring up those things that might be a bit unpleasant. Like Ava and the Love hotel room, or mom maybe cheating or the picture of Ava and another guy. They doesn't mean cheating happened (at least yet). o_O
If Ava NTR path is because you cheated on her or be on other girl path it<s make a lot of sense but will be cheating in the true love path?
 

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like for example, so far the relationships are not actually defined yet right? you are able to choose to see X person content/story, but nothing is set in stone correct?
by that, if you "want to see their story" with the options showed, sometimes the choices that might lead to ntr, are not very clear. as i think i talked a bit in my other post, i think it is mostly confusion to where that trigger is, what one might think is a friendly answer might actually lead to ntr, know what i mean?
Ah ok . I think I understand now but I can't think of an option that would be confusing if it leads to NTR or not. But you don't have to worry. You will have to trigger a few very clear switches to get on the NTR path. And for girls with boyfriends.. well they will of course have sex with them. And some choices are just to extend scenes and emotions and have no impact on the code leading to NTR or not.
 

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If Ava NTR path is because you cheated on her or be on other girl path it<s make a lot of sense but will be cheating in the true love path?
No. In the true love path MC and Ava will not cheat. That doesn't mean there are no interactions with other males like talking or maybe a hug. But no kisses, no bj, no sex etc.
 
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There is NTR off/On switch. I try to build a natural reaction to the decisions the player makes. For example.. If you meet ava at her work it will be more likely to be on the Love route. If you decide to go home to meet Zuni, it is more likely to be on Ava's NTR part. Same with the cheating decision in the Hospital. If you had sex on the road with lisa you can have sex with her again in the hospital. Did you go to meet Ava at work they become a couple and you can cheat on ava. Which is also a huge factor getting on Avas NTR path. And so on.
Last I want to add: The game is called Lovephobia. So I do intentionally bring up those things that might be a bit unpleasant. Like Ava and the Love hotel room, or mom maybe cheating or the picture of Ava and another guy. They doesn't mean cheating happened (at least yet). o_O
I'll shoot my opinion out there, obviously not gospel or anything but just what I've noticed from the community over the years of being active on here.

1. People don't like it when NTR/Cheating is used as a "game over" bad choice decision. If someone is thinking they are on a route and suddenly a choice they tried 30 mins ago is making the girls fuck someone else people are going to rage.

2. People want a simple NTR on/off switch at the start of the game. Choosing "off" will force the game it never allow them to make a choice that could lead to that kind of content. They don't want it a mashup of 4 different decisions between 3 different girls mixed into the game

3. People use NTR as a blanket statement for any girl the MC could get with in the game having any sort of "relationshipy" (yes, kissing, handholding, sex, dates). A girl talking about a dude shes boning, even if not in a relationship with the MC yet will still get these same reactions.

Just keep these in mind when answering peoples comments, NTR is THE biggest trigger for people on the site, and when a dev is not explicit in what they are doing people will just pile on the hate.
 

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There is NTR off/On switch. I try to build a natural reaction to the decisions the player makes. For example.. If you meet ava at her work it will be more likely to be on the Love route. If you decide to go home to meet Zuni, it is more likely to be on Ava's NTR part.
Yeeeeah, I'm not a fan of that. Ava is the more interesting character so would pick her over going to meet the other one, but that doesn't mean I don't want to get on her NTR route.

If you're gonna make getting on paths kinda janky like that you'll really need to have an inbuilt walkthrough option.
 
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I'll shoot my opinion out there, obviously not gospel or anything but just what I've noticed from the community over the years of being active on here.

1. People don't like it when NTR/Cheating is used as a "game over" bad choice decision. If someone is thinking they are on a route and suddenly a choice they tried 30 mins ago is making the girls fuck someone else people are going to rage.

2. People want a simple NTR on/off switch at the start of the game. Choosing "off" will force the game it never allow them to make a choice that could lead to that kind of content. They don't want it a mashup of 4 different decisions between 3 different girls mixed into the game

3. People use NTR as a blanket statement for any girl the MC could get with in the game having any sort of "relationshipy" (yes, kissing, handholding, sex, dates). A girl talking about a dude shes boning, even if not in a relationship with the MC yet will still get these same reactions.

Just keep these in mind when answering peoples comments, NTR is THE biggest trigger for people on the site, and when a dev is not explicit in what they are doing people will just pile on the hate.
there is a middle ground there, it all depends of how you do it in the end...
i see some games pull of having multiple things like that, like NCC, Pink Box, Karlsson Gambit... its all tied on how yo do it, if things are clear, and split. then you're able to have both sides, and those in the middle.
but being clear about the NTR is a must IF you want both sides.
 
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Yeeeeah, I'm not a fan of that. Ava is the more interesting character so would pick her over going to meet the other one, but that doesn't mean I don't want to get on her NTR route.

If you're gonna make getting on paths kinda janky like that you'll really need to have an inbuilt walkthrough option.
If you are more interested in Ava.. and you chose to meet ava at her workplace you instead of going home to meet zuni you will be on the Love route. Isn't that what people want that are not interested in NTR?

Meeting Ava = Ava Love path
Meeting Zuni = Ava NTR path

Just that this "choice" will not be the only factor. :giggle:
 
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